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p.19 #1 · Official Nikon Z6 image & resource hub thread




tek9 wrote:
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4819/44336417210_dc064c41a0_h.jpg

Ball Chase


https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4843/44336416220_74f3697486_h.jpg

Dogs Playing



Cute puppers!!



Dec 02, 2018 at 09:01 PM
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p.19 #2 · Official Nikon Z6 image & resource hub thread


ooops, posted to wrong thread!

Edited on Dec 02, 2018 at 10:12 PM · View previous versions



Dec 02, 2018 at 09:17 PM
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p.19 #3 · Official Nikon Z6 image & resource hub thread


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Cute puppers!!


cheers. still figuring out how to get more keepers with erratically moving subjects. practice I guess.



Dec 02, 2018 at 09:31 PM
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p.19 #4 · Official Nikon Z6 image & resource hub thread


tek9 wrote:
cheers. still figuring out how to get more keepers with erratically moving subjects. practice I guess.


what AF mode are you using? Dynamic AF hasnt let me down yet



Dec 02, 2018 at 11:08 PM
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p.19 #5 · Official Nikon Z6 image & resource hub thread


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what AF mode are you using? Dynamic AF hasnt let me down yet


I tried dynamic and wide - but it's entirely possible I'm not shooting with fast enough shutter speed to freeze the motion properly. I'm also using back button focusing so maybe I'm making some errors there. More tests to come.



Dec 03, 2018 at 12:43 AM
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p.19 #6 · Official Nikon Z6 image & resource hub thread


B&W from yesterday. 70-200.


Tree On The Shore



Dec 03, 2018 at 10:45 AM
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p.19 #7 · Official Nikon Z6 image & resource hub thread


Anyone else noticing weird WB values from RAW files in LR, using the latest DNG converter? I'm looking at -20 to -30 tint to get colors in the right ballpark. Looking forward to direct LR compatibility with the RAW files.


Dec 03, 2018 at 11:18 AM
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p.19 #8 · Official Nikon Z6 image & resource hub thread


Get Capture One 12 and never look back...


Dec 03, 2018 at 11:18 AM
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p.19 #9 · Official Nikon Z6 image & resource hub thread


BSPhotog wrote:
Anyone else noticing weird WB values from RAW files in LR, using the latest DNG converter? I'm looking at -20 to -30 tint to get colors in the right ballpark. Looking forward to direct LR compatibility with the RAW files.


I am using capture nxd to set white balance and I export the files in LR afterwards in tiff 16 bits. Colors in capture nx-d are like what you see on you're camera.



Dec 03, 2018 at 12:13 PM
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p.19 #10 · Official Nikon Z6 image & resource hub thread


henry albert wrote:
After four days and about 4000 frames, it's difficult to find things about the Z6 to complain about. It focuses my G lenses at least as good as my D500 and D4. The dynamic focus mode is terrific and tracks like a hound dog on the trail of a rabbit. (For you city slickers without experience with hound dogs, that's pretty good.) The IQ is top notch. Battery life is fine. The EVF is slow to restart, but there are work arounds to deal with that. The EVF itself isn't anything to write home about, but it doesn't interfere
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Hi Henry, what tourney is this?

That is pretty impressive through the glass.



Dec 03, 2018 at 01:30 PM
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p.19 #11 · Official Nikon Z6 image & resource hub thread


Max Power wrote:
Hi Henry, what tourney is this?

That is pretty impressive through the glass.


It was Woodbury vs Simley at Bielenberg Arena in Woodbury. They got some new glass this year. Still pretty dirty, but I cleaned off a spot when the Zamboni was out pregame.



Dec 03, 2018 at 02:41 PM
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p.19 #12 · Official Nikon Z6 image & resource hub thread


Anyone put the Z6 through the erratic kid test? Realized that my wife's Canon M50 is not cutting it anymore but due to cost costing measures last year, my Sony a9 was sold off. Looking to possibly replace the gear and for the cost of a Z7, I could get the Z6 plus the 35/50 primes.

Also any tests on AF tracking/hit rate between the Z6/Z7? Are they too close to call?



Dec 03, 2018 at 02:47 PM
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p.19 #13 · Official Nikon Z6 image & resource hub thread


Bohemien wrote:
The SmallRig L-bracket (https://www.smallrig.com/smallrig-l-bracket-for-nikon-z6-and-nikon-z7-camera-2258.html) adds some length to the grip (but also ca. 150g of weight). Maybe that would solve your problem?

If you order it, make sure to also consider ordering the extension for the FTZ adapter to help support the adapter with long and heavy telephoto lenses.

Markus


That is a clever bracket design especially for larger hands on the Z6 where the pinky falls off, unfortunately it does not allow for vertical shooting without contorting your wrist/elbow. Nikon (and third party) need to get out a vertical grip soon which should allow for easier vertical and alleviate the FTZ arca plate issues as well.



Dec 03, 2018 at 06:29 PM
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p.19 #14 · Official Nikon Z6 image & resource hub thread


turbodude wrote:
Get Capture One 12 and never look back...


Considering I won't give Adobe money every month for their subscription program and I have LR6 as the last non-subscription release which will not include the Z6/Z7, well this may push me over to Capture One finally, but I've gotten my workflow down after years of LR (starting with LR1 way back when) so it would be hard to switch, but if I end up getting the Z6 I may have to because what good will LR6 do me if it doesn't support Z6 NEF's and I don't want to have to convert all my NEF's to DNG's...



Dec 03, 2018 at 06:33 PM
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p.19 #15 · Official Nikon Z6 image & resource hub thread


wjmeyer wrote:
Considering I won't give Adobe money every month for their subscription program and I have LR6 as the last non-subscription release which will not include the Z6/Z7, well this may push me over to Capture One finally, but I've gotten my workflow down after years of LR (starting with LR1 way back when) so it would be hard to switch, but if I end up getting the Z6 I may have to because what good will LR6 do me if it doesn't support Z6 NEF's and I don't want to have to convert all my NEF's to DNG's...


When I get my Z6, I plan to try Capture NX-D to convert my files to TIFF and then import them into LR6. Like you, I do not want to pay for a monthly subscription to use my editing software.



Dec 03, 2018 at 07:21 PM
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p.19 #16 · Official Nikon Z6 image & resource hub thread


wjmeyer wrote:
Considering I won't give Adobe money every month for their subscription program and I have LR6 as the last non-subscription release which will not include the Z6/Z7, well this may push me over to Capture One finally, but I've gotten my workflow down after years of LR (starting with LR1 way back when) so it would be hard to switch, but if I end up getting the Z6 I may have to because what good will LR6 do me if it doesn't support Z6 NEF's and I don't want to have to convert all my NEF's to DNG's...


Monthly subscription for LR - $10/month, althways updated.
Cheapest C1 package - $300, with a vague promise of saving for a new version. So, it’s 3 years worth of LR subscription (including the interest) and after that, if not earlier, to pay for a new version. How is it better?



Dec 03, 2018 at 07:45 PM
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p.19 #17 · Official Nikon Z6 image & resource hub thread


scorpio1 wrote:
When I get my Z6, I plan to try Capture NX-D to convert my files to TIFF and then import them into LR6. Like you, I do not want to pay for a monthly subscription to use my editing software.


I do all my conversions, noise reduction and sharpening in DxO PhotoLab. For my experiments with the Z6 in this thread I either shot TIFF and brought it directly into DxO, or RAW and converted to TIFF in NX-D.



Dec 03, 2018 at 08:03 PM
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p.19 #18 · Official Nikon Z6 image & resource hub thread


wjmeyer wrote:
Considering I won't give Adobe money every month for their subscription program and I have LR6 as the last non-subscription release which will not include the Z6/Z7, well this may push me over to Capture One finally, but I've gotten my workflow down after years of LR (starting with LR1 way back when) so it would be hard to switch, but if I end up getting the Z6 I may have to because what good will LR6 do me if it doesn't support Z6 NEF's and I don't want to have to convert all my NEF's to DNG's...


gfiksel wrote:
Monthly subscription for LR - $10/month, althways updated.
Cheapest C1 package - $300, with a vague promise of saving for a new version. So, it’s 3 years worth of LR subscription (including the interest) and after that, if not earlier, to pay for a new version. How is it better?




I have a workspace i can send you that makes it feel like lightroom. Lightroom is built on super slow archaic architecture. Doesnt use multi-threading and is 10 times slower at churning raws on my machine (Ryzen 1950X 16core, with 128GB ram, 1TB 970 Pro work drive). yes 10 times... 350 d850 raws on export in LR took 27minutes, while c1 literally took 2min 40 sec. Lightroom gets bloated and requires you to save everything to their DAM. Capture 1 is able to use hardware acceleration as well as multithreading And gives you the option to create "Sessions" for every shoot you have, encompassing all the edits and files in one mobile package, incase you need to move the files to another location, you wont lose any of your changes.

Capture 1 also separates Color Value from Exposure value as its a complete RAW editor. Have you ever noticed that when you change color or WB in LR, sometimes the brightness/exposure of the image changes? Well thats because LR only has the processing power to do both at the same time, whereas C1 has them completely independent from each other. Also c1 has layers and has the option of adding "Presets/Styles" to individual layers and then changing the opacity of them so that you can feather or mask the style. Once you use the color editor in Capture One in a terrible lighting situation, youll never go back to LR, i guarantee it. c1 may cost more upfront, but you own the program, and they are very fast with updates, and generally do not make a new version more than once every 3 years. LR may be cheaper, but if you ever want to end your subscription, you wont be able to use their software. Overall C1 is a much more powerful RAW editor, you get what you pay for. And also dont expect Adobe to keep LR classic around, they have already said they want to use Lightroom CC moving forward, hence why they separated the program. id venture to guess LR Classic will be gone in the next 2-3 years. Also this is my own opinion, after using Lightroom since it first came out, and up until a year ago switching to Capture 1. I still am a subscription holder to Adobe CC, and use Photoshop and After effects and Premiere, but i spent the extra money because i feel my RAW conversions are superior in C1 and the time saving with editing. i learned from a c1 ambassador, so if anyone ver needs help in learning it, i can answer any questions you may have, also, theres always a 10% code floating around, so you never have to pay full price lol





what my c1 workspace looks like




Dec 03, 2018 at 08:18 PM
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p.19 #19 · Official Nikon Z6 image & resource hub thread


gfiksel wrote:
Monthly subscription for LR - $10/month, althways updated.
Cheapest C1 package - $300, with a vague promise of saving for a new version. So, it’s 3 years worth of LR subscription (including the interest) and after that, if not earlier, to pay for a new version. How is it better?


Because I abhor subscription services. Ever since Autodesk introduced it in the early 2000's (I'm sure someone else did it beforehand but they are the ones who stand out to me) software manufacturers have been moving to this model for one purpose, to generate more revenue for them, not as a service to the community as they try to convince their user base. Don't get me wrong, I don't blame them, they are in the business of making money and if they can introduce a model that gives them guaranteed revenue on a consistent basis it's better for them, but not necessarily better for the consumer. The only reason Adobe keeps their subscription price so cheap is because of competition. Back when Adobe offered upgrades for LR they were $79 and I only needed them every two years at the most, compare $79 for two years to $240 for the subscription service over the same span of time, and if you can wait three years the savings keeps going.

What do you mean by "a vague promise of saving for a new version"? I believe CaptureOne also has a subscription model do they not? They offer both, for those who want to buy outright, those who do not need to update every 6 months or however long. I need a "new" version to be compelling before I buy it, I still run Photoshop CS4 because it's stand alone and it does everything I need it to do for image enhancement, I had no need to upgrade to CS5 or to CS6 and I will use CS4 probably until it is no longer compatible with the OS I use.

So, if C1 costs me $300 and I can use it successfully for more than 3 years, then I'd much rather pay the $300 up front and not be paying monthly for a service and upgrades that I don't really need. Realize this is just my personal opinion and I am fine with others who don't mind paying for subscription, it is beneficial if you're one who always wants the latest and greatest but if you're one who can wait a couple years between upgrades then there might be other options that are better.

This really takes us off topic from this thread and I apologize but wanted to explain my personal rationale behind this.



Dec 03, 2018 at 08:57 PM
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p.19 #20 · Official Nikon Z6 image & resource hub thread


Does C1 have a mobile device component to it? LR CC subscription comes with a large storage space for your catalog and it is accessible from any mobile device. I think I'd like to add that kind of capability to my workflow.



Dec 03, 2018 at 10:42 PM
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