1. I can see where my aperture is before even turning the camera on or picking it up (many use cases for this)
2. Clickless aperture is great for video so no noise from clicks on the lens or even worse the camera body
3. I'm old so it is familiar
4. You can always set it to "A" and ignore the aperture ring
5. Makes me miss Fuji less
hiepphotog wrote:
He said they never had enough copies in store to do a 10-copy run.
We still don't. After the trade shows next week there may be enough to get started on it.
Although I'll admit Jesse is right, too. Even if we had them, I've been doing other things.
Honestly what’s to know we already know it’s the best AF 24 in Sony mount. It’s one of Sony’s best lenses and it’s been on the market for awhile now proving its worth. Been tested by a lot of folks here on the forum as well. If you need a 24 than your not making a mistake buying it. This thread is 29 pages and if you can’t make a decision by now with all the great samples than you never will. I own it tested the crap out of it myself and it’s a permanent fixture in my bag. Hell some of us even sold our Loxia 25 for it. That’s a statement right there
I'm slowly running the 24mm GM through it's paces. It's a good lens, but I'll admit to being underwhelmed. I really wanted to be blown away and listed my Loxia 25 for sale before I even accepted delivery. But...it's just not as good at landscapes. Fantastic all-arounder, but the the Loxia is simply stronger to the edges and the corners at all apertures. The GM has wicked CA, I didn't expect that. Don't get me wrong, it's a fantastic lens, but the Loxia really is noticeably better at what I use it for. I have next week off and I hope to post some comparisons.
A7III on tripod. ISO 100, tripod, mechanical shutter with EFCS, 2s delayed, lens corrections off in camera, LR 5.7 import from DNG, no corrections in LR either (newer versions force some corrections but perhaps this older does not). Focus is with M spot mode on center.
I like how this lens is sharp at f/1.4 to f/2.8 (compared to Sigma I used on Nikon). But sharpness on sides not as good as I would like for landscapes at f/8.
Second comparison: F/8 with three lenses: Sony 24GM, Sony 16-35/4 ZA, Sony 24-105/4 G.
A7III handheld. Multiple shots captured with each, I selected the best one (though all were quite consistent).
Focus is on center with L spot. Center is about 500m far, bottom right corner is about 500m, but top left corner is about 220m for closest trees and 900m for background above them.
My 24 arrived 2 days ago. Such a wonderful lens, but how well is it as a '35mm' on A7 III? Is it good enough to replace a 'real' 35mm? Here's just-sharpness test @1m/3.3ft, up to f/11.
Top: Voigtlander Ultron 35 1.7 + PCX
Bottom: Sony 24 1.4 GM, cropped to APS-C
Notes: Vignetting is high on the 35, like most M lenses. Different color cast / tone. Looks like 10.7 MP APS-C crop out of A7 III is the bottleneck, result may be far different on A7R III.
Dave Sanders wrote:
I'm slowly running the 24mm GM through it's paces. It's a good lens, but I'll admit to being underwhelmed. I really wanted to be blown away and listed my Loxia 25 for sale before I even accepted delivery. But...it's just not as good at landscapes. Fantastic all-arounder, but the the Loxia is simply stronger to the edges and the corners at all apertures. The GM has wicked CA, I didn't expect that. Don't get me wrong, it's a fantastic lens, but the Loxia really is noticeably better at what I use it for. I have next week off and I hope to post some comparisons. ...Show more →
Ya the 24mm has significant loca which shows up in Color fringing at oof areas. But it’s not as bad as my Sony 35mm.
With its small weight, good sharpness, Low coma, the loca is something I can live with. I don’t think there is a perfect lens ever, ie small, light , sharp, no ca, no coma, good bokeh rendering. 24mm comes very close.
twentysevenone wrote:
I shot my 24GM on crop mode as a "36mm" and honestly I wasn't impressed with the results.
So your not impressed at 24mm either i guess? Personally I find it the very close to the Sonnar in crop mode which I have been looking for for years. Different strokes though
wind30 wrote:
Ya the 24mm has significant loca which shows up in Color fringing at oof areas. But it’s not as bad as my Sony 35mm.
With its small weight, good sharpness, Low coma, the loca is something I can live with. I don’t think there is a perfect lens ever, ie small, light , sharp, no ca, no coma, good bokeh rendering. 24mm comes very close.
Yes, I ran it through its paces and it is a superlative lens. The best AF 24mm on the market, I think. I would have kept it if I had the money to do so, full stop. But, in absolute performance, the Loxia is better. And I don't have the money to keep both, which is a total bummer. I really prefer a fast 35 or 50 for general use and the L25 is a landscape beast. So, I sold the 24GM and made a fellow Vancouverite very, very happy haha. I'll likely buy it again a few years down the road, but for now the L25 is what I need.
Hi Guys, Iam new in this forum. Iam from Luxembourg. I bought a new sony24mm1.4gm. But I hear some strange low noise (“klock”) from inside, if I turn the lens to left way. If the camera is ON than I hear nothing. It is normal? Many Thanks for the answers...
MrTMan wrote:
What weren't you impressed with? The rendering?
I did an a/b comparison with 24mm cropped vs 40mm ff. The difference is pretty big in the rendering. There is just not much blur of u shoot full body portraits.
If you are referring to blur amount, the 24GM in crop mode will provide about the same blur as a 35/2 lens and that may not be enough for you.
A 40/2 at same distance yields even more blur....and so on...What differentiates is bokeh quality and imo the 24GM has beautiful rendering.
wind30 wrote:
I did an a/b comparison with 24mm cropped vs 40mm ff. The difference is pretty big in the rendering. There is just not much blur of u shoot full body portraits.
Fred Miranda wrote
If you are referring to blur amount, the 24GM in crop mode will provide about the same blur as a 35/2 lens and that may not be enough for you.
A 40/2 at same distance yields even more blur....and so on...What differentiates is bokeh quality and imo the 24GM has beautiful rendering.
Interesting to see Imatest resolution figures (from irentals.cn) of the GM 24 (A7RIII), Sigma Art 28 (5DSR), Nikon 28 (D850). I know they're in the same focal length, but I believe they're in the similar tech gen. The Sony is really optimized for WO shooting, at least at close distance (but I think similarly for near infinity as well). These numbers are with all corrections on.
LoCA (after correction) is actually better than both the Sigma and Nikon:
Sony FE 24mm f/1.4GM magnification (in-focus) color difference is: 7.71μm
The axial (out-of-focus) color difference of Sony FE 24mm f/1.4GM is: 9.65μm
Sigma 28mm f/1.4 DG HSM Art magnification (in-focus) color difference: 11.7μm
The axial (out-of-focus) color difference of Sigma 28mm f/1.4 DG HSM Art is: 13.89μm
Dispersion control is not excellent, but it is better than Nikon's chromatic aberration of 14.15 μm (both axial dispersion is the same). You can also see some dispersion in the real shots:
hiepphotog wrote:
Interesting to see Imatest resolution figures (from irentals.cn) of the GM 24 (A7RIII), Sigma Art 28 (5DSR), Nikon 28 (D850). I know they're in the same focal length, but I believe they're in the similar tech gen. The Sony is really optimized for WO shooting, at least at close distance (but I think similarly for near infinity as well). These numbers are with all corrections on.
LoCA (after correction) is actually better than both the Sigma and Nikon:
Sony FE 24mm f/1.4GM magnification (in-focus) color difference is: 7.71μm
The axial (out-of-focus) color difference of Sony FE 24mm f/1.4GM is: 9.65μm
Sigma 28mm f/1.4 DG HSM Art magnification (in-focus) color difference: 11.7μm
The axial (out-of-focus) color difference of Sigma 28mm f/1.4 DG HSM Art is: 13.89μm
Dispersion control is not excellent, but it is better than Nikon's chromatic aberration of 14.15 μm (both axial dispersion is the same). You can also see some dispersion in the real shots:...Show more →
LoCA can be very high with the right high contrast subject, like trees against a bright sky. It won't show up on a normal test target.
pdmphoto wrote:
LoCA can be very high with the right high contrast subject, like trees against a bright sky. It won't show up on a normal test target.
First of all, how do you know it won't show up on a normal test target? Beyond that, regardless, if all 3 lenses were tested under the same condition and the GM 24 is better than the other two, is it safe to assume that the Sony will perform better in other conditions as well? I'm not saying there is no LoCA on the GM 24.
