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p.27 #1 · Alt forum Nikon Z resource, discussion and image thread


zhangyue wrote:
I actually won't draw conclusion like this. I think glass like 15mm VCIII and 35mmf1.7 and 50mm lux ASPH are perfect fine for my use...


I know I got this Still, in my particular case:

(1) Lenses are already invested.
(2) in 28/2.8A example, f/2.8 is good for people shoot and f/4 is already edge-to-edge sharp for handheld travel/landscape, plus its size/weight.
(3) Few of us want lighter/more compact than focal lengths.

In fact, its the cheapest Leica lenses that's the hardest to depart. That lens creates more clean and consistent image than 16-35/2.8iii Canon (and if I remember, no coma wide open for nightscape!)and I have yet find a high resolution body that can exploit its full potential. VC is one of those brave company that its native Z lenses (if ever) will definitely address edge issue, but yet I have not find 28/2.8A replacement in this market yet.

BTW I found 40/2.8 Canon immensely useful to bring along with me everywhere, than any of its lenses that cover this focal length.




Dec 02, 2018 at 08:39 PM
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p.27 #2 · Alt forum Nikon Z resource, discussion and image thread


Last night I was at a wedding and the photographer had both the Z7 and Z6. I haven’t held either so I took the opportunity to make some chit chat at a time where he wasn’t busy. He let me shoot with the Z7 on some sigma glass (with adapter and Nikon 105). In my short time holding it I would say the camera felt great and the the viewfinder is fantastic. A grip would be good for those times when you need it.

He seemed to be very happy with both cameras.

Would be nice if they made a version with more physical controls, although I’m sure a lot of that can be customized on the extra buttons.



Dec 02, 2018 at 10:14 PM
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p.27 #3 · Alt forum Nikon Z resource, discussion and image thread


davewolfs wrote:
Last night I was at a wedding and the photographer had both the Z7 and Z6. I haven’t held either so I took the opportunity to make some chit chat at a time where he wasn’t busy. He let me shoot with the Z7 on some sigma glass (with adapter and Nikon 105). In my short time holding it I would say the camera felt great and the the viewfinder is fantastic. A grip would be good for those times when you need it.

He seemed to be very happy with both cameras.

Would be nice if they made a
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How to objectively rate Z7 is really depend on what and how you shoot it. It is not most versatile camera on the market to cover all the field like D850 (or A7RIII do) However, it really shine for many thing it does right which I value highly. I absolutely enjoy using it. I made a right choice for myself and have zero envy for any other cameras include Nikon on the market. There is no better 35mm system than Z7 for my personal need.

24-70S in 4X5 mode
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4900/44332785290_f99fda7a92_h.jpg

70-200f4G
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4890/46099246762_3e6106830e_h.jpg


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Dec 03, 2018 at 01:30 PM
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p.27 #4 · Alt forum Nikon Z resource, discussion and image thread


Michael, really superb images you have posted recently from your last trip!


Dec 03, 2018 at 04:46 PM
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p.27 #5 · Alt forum Nikon Z resource, discussion and image thread


joakim wrote:
Michael, really superb images you have posted recently from your last trip!


Thank you, Joakim.

Here is BW with 24-70mm in 4X5 mode

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4903/46172519071_5e5fe97bca_h.jpg



Dec 04, 2018 at 02:32 PM
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p.27 #6 · Alt forum Nikon Z resource, discussion and image thread


Eastern canyon land (sort of ; - ), from the Back Bay looking over South Boston to the Blue Hills. The hills known as mashi-wadchu-set, "near or at the great hill" - great hill country, Massachusetts.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4871/46170475711_068781858a_h.jpg



Dec 04, 2018 at 06:42 PM
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p.27 #7 · Alt forum Nikon Z resource, discussion and image thread


Here is a color image with 24-70S in 5X4 from Gooseneck state park. I made a short visit after spent the night at Monument Valley. This was at sunrise. Light condition was wonderful. Light change was very fast, I only get very short window to decide what I want to do with first light. Be able to handhold to get the shot is important.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4838/46100211232_9868581fd2_h.jpg



Dec 04, 2018 at 09:08 PM
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p.27 #8 · Alt forum Nikon Z resource, discussion and image thread


One with the 24-70S from this morning. Processed with CaptureOne Pro 12







Dec 05, 2018 at 03:15 PM
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p.27 #9 · Alt forum Nikon Z resource, discussion and image thread


Canyonlands continued...

I posted the first in the Voigtlander 40mm Nokton thread. It's taken with the VM version of the 40mm, using a shimmed Kipon M to Z adapter. Didn't note the aperture but it is probably f/2 or thereabouts as some slight coma is visible at the extreme edges as well as some vignetting (the left side is farthermost from the window glass). These are all shot through a fairly dirty double glazed window at an angle. There might be some room light reflections noticeable and there are blurred raindrops in the last.

Boston Back Bay, early evening.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4897/32298775048_15377a53b1_h.jpg

Z7, VM Nokton 40mm, 1/200, ISO 1600


Later that night.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4833/32298768778_5aa67470f3_h.jpg

Z7, 24-70s, 24mm, f/4, 1/10, ISO 1600 (IS enabled)


Next morning:

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4880/31231116547_86661520ff_h.jpg

Z7, 24-70s, 24mm, f/8, 1/250, ISO 6400



Dec 05, 2018 at 03:35 PM
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p.27 #10 · Alt forum Nikon Z resource, discussion and image thread


Still waiting for my Chinese Leica M to Nikon Z adapter to arrive... Can't wait to try the Noctilux on the Z7!!


Dec 05, 2018 at 04:34 PM
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p.27 #11 · Alt forum Nikon Z resource, discussion and image thread


zhangyue wrote:
A few more bird shots before I switch gear to continue NP images.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4916/45229678785_c781f17a16_h.jpg
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4914/45417389274_394b0198a5_h.jpg
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4860/44324454370_c85a639568_h.jpg
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4816/44324466660_2d14fda905_h.jpg
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4914/32270042198_7d7c805c20_h.jpg


nice kinglets! those are jumpy little buggers.

dare i ask, how is the manual focus on the 300mm?




Dec 05, 2018 at 04:37 PM
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p.27 #12 · Alt forum Nikon Z resource, discussion and image thread


zhangyue wrote:
Here is a color image with 24-70S in 5X4 from Gooseneck state park.


Nice! But that's not 5:4. It's 3:2!



Dec 05, 2018 at 05:38 PM
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p.27 #13 · Alt forum Nikon Z resource, discussion and image thread


sebboh wrote:
nice kinglets! those are jumpy little buggers.

dare i ask, how is the manual focus on the 300mm?



I only used manual focus to get the ball park (because the branches all over) and rely on AFs for capture. Like you said, these little ones jump and move like crazy in the branches and almost never give me a clean look. Rely solely on either AF or MF seems not very practical unless I have enough time. Z7 AFs is super accurate that if you were able to lock focus and made the shot, it will be sharp. That two images are only two I got in focus before I lose the herd.

As for how manual focus feel, I have to say focus throw is short and very short at longer distance. Because Lens is well corrected, I can nail focus for my kids in normal life without any focus aid but I didn't even try for these bird cases. Maybe I should, but the thing is Z7's AFs will most likely do at least as good or better job for nail focus if I have time to manual focus.

Stabilized VF is a must no matter AF or MF. I personally actually prefer short focus throw most of time. It is one of better designed manual focus for Nikon AF lenses.

300PF is so lovely I have to say. Another one of best Nikon glasses. It makes the process so much more enjoyable.

Makten wrote:
Nice! But that's not 5:4. It's 3:2!


Maybe you are right, I have to go back to check if it was shot at 2X3 and crop or it was cropped from 4X5. but in this trip, I use this feature so extensively that Fn2 (format ratio) is my mostly used button than any other combined

Here are two more BW with Z7 24-70

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4910/32278420888_44b98555a9_h.jpg
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4869/46121538302_5c1fa5d531_h.jpg



Dec 05, 2018 at 06:36 PM
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p.27 #14 · Alt forum Nikon Z resource, discussion and image thread


zhangyue wrote:
Maybe you are right, I have to go back to check if it was shot at 2X3 and crop or it was cropped from 4X5. but in this trip, I use this feature so extensively that Fn2 (format ratio) is my mostly used button than any other combined


The reason I noticed is because I'm interested in that particular feature, but I think 5:4 is a tad too narrow. 4:3 is "perfect" and I don't really understand why you don't have that choice (in a lot of cameras, not only Nikon).
Probably you "uncropped" the raw file and then cropped to 3:2 without thinking about it.

That first image in your last post is exceptionally good! World class composition.

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Anyone shooting the Voigtländer 40/1.2 VM on Z7 or Z6 yet?



Dec 06, 2018 at 02:13 AM
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p.27 #15 · Alt forum Nikon Z resource, discussion and image thread


Makten wrote:
The reason I noticed is because I'm interested in that particular feature, but I think 5:4 is a tad too narrow. 4:3 is "perfect" and I don't really understand why you don't have that choice (in a lot of cameras, not only Nikon).
Probably you "uncropped" the raw file and then cropped to 3:2 without thinking about it.

That first image in your last post is exceptionally good! World class composition.

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Anyone shooting the Voigtländer 40/1.2 VM on Z7 or Z6 yet?


Yes it is strange they do not support more formats, specially since it's user configurable which one to choose from.

I too is hoping to see how the 40/1.2 (and 50/1.2) behaves on the Z7



Dec 06, 2018 at 07:02 AM
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p.27 #16 · Alt forum Nikon Z resource, discussion and image thread


Makten wrote:
The reason I noticed is because I'm interested in that particular feature, but I think 5:4 is a tad too narrow. 4:3 is "perfect" and I don't really understand why you don't have that choice (in a lot of cameras, not only Nikon).
Probably you "uncropped" the raw file and then cropped to 3:2 without thinking about it.

That first image in your last post is exceptionally good! World class composition.
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Anyone shooting the Voigtländer 40/1.2 VM on Z7 or Z6 yet?


I went back to check that image, that was indeed shot at 2X3 native and I didn't even do any crop with it. Everything is original.

I found myself only use 4X5, 16X9, DX and FX. 16X9 is mainly to remind me the images I took will be wide format in the future.(either it will keep 16X9 or wider) 4X5 will cover any case between 4X5 to 1X1 for me. DX for bird or get 105mm with Z7&24-70S for landscape. Though other than bird image, I found I seldom crop in post anyway.

I know many believe crop feature is not that important and after shot crop seems the same in field. That is not true after I found out this feature change my way of compose and seeing during multiple trips. Photography is all about seeing and finding interesting pattern, light, subject world present us. There is no universal format for that. To get perfect composed image within photographer's seeing limit is essential and I think this feature help me to achieve that.

It has no wasted pixel,save disk space. It changes perspective for many image took, it also offer zoom capability. One of most neat feature I think every camera should have.

Based on 35mmf1.7 VC, and 50mm Summilux ASPH, I wouldn't worry 40mm f1.2 performance on Z7 at all. Sure, you won't get the same performance with M, but most people never need f1.2 or f2 corner sharp.


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joakim wrote:
Yes it is strange they do not support more formats, specially since it's user configurable which one to choose from.

I too is hoping to see how the 40/1.2 (and 50/1.2) behaves on the Z7


Yeh, if they offer 4X3, I might just use that as base than 2X3. I treat this crop thing like prime lens in the bag, 2X3, 4X5, 16X9 and DX cover wide range of usage with nice space between each other. Z6 didn't even offer 4X5 as mentioned previously in this thread which is sad for Nikon to play this kind of game.

Here is one shot in original 4X5 mode, no crop. This happened a few mins later than previous image I posted.

with 15mm VCIII

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4867/45292901465_60007def58_h.jpg



Dec 06, 2018 at 02:18 PM
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p.27 #17 · Alt forum Nikon Z resource, discussion and image thread


24-70S at ISO 25600









Dec 06, 2018 at 04:09 PM
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p.27 #18 · Alt forum Nikon Z resource, discussion and image thread


Anybody has tried to use a Collapsable 50/3.5?


Dec 06, 2018 at 05:16 PM
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joakim wrote:
Yes it is strange they do not support more formats, specially since it's user configurable which one to choose from.

I too is hoping to see how the 40/1.2 (and 50/1.2) behaves on the Z7


Hopefully to pick up the CV 50 f1.2 tomorrow.



Dec 06, 2018 at 06:21 PM
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p.27 #20 · Alt forum Nikon Z resource, discussion and image thread


For anyone interested in seeing how the WATE looks on the Z7, I have a few on Flickr. The first 14 photos in the stream. The color images are uncropped.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4901/45359143875_3cbe6ad32c_k.jpg


Flickr Gallery

The lens profile in Lightroom CC completely eliminates the distortion. I am very happy with the combination.



Dec 11, 2018 at 09:20 AM
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