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p.15 #10 · Alt forum Nikon Z resource, discussion and image thread | |
rscheffler wrote:
Michael, thanks for testing those M lenses on the Z7! I know how much work it is to do this and appreciate the effort very much.
21 SEM, 50 Lux ASPH and 35/1.7M are staples in my M kit and they all look to do well on 40+MP. The 50 Lux ASPH performance with its mid zone dip looks to be similar to that on an M body. I'd guess resampling Z7 images down to 24MP will result in sharper looking images than native 24MP.
Ron, My too feel 21SEM, 35VC and 50lux are perfect set. 35VC is a sleeper actually. I need use it more. (more samples later)
However, My gut feeling is M have slightly advantage even my adapter has no decenter issue. I will update this shortly. I redo my shimming process, it is still not fully solve the issue but better. I check my 35VC test on M, it is shocker to me to remind me how good that lens is. It fully usable at f1.7 to extreme corner. I doubt adapter can give that kind of performance on Z7, so is 21SEM.
One thing for sure, there is no smear which means for landscape shot, if you stop them to f5.6, they are perfectly useable. F4 might work as well.
rscheffler wrote:
Not having followed the Nikon Z release news very closely, what are the anticipated major differences pertaining to MF shooting experience between the Z6 and Z7? I'd be tempted to get one to augment the M240 and the Z6 would be more budget friendly for this kind of niche use.
Z6 will be basically Z7 minus 20M pixel. Yes, the AF point will be less, but pixel density will less as well. so AF should work faster for less signal need to process and less requirement for accuracy due to less pixel.
rscheffler wrote:
Being a Canon system guy, I was recently at a Canon EOS R demo hosted by Canon and had a chance to talk shop with some of the Canon tech support people. Adapting non-Canon MF glass isn't really on their radar, so was unable to get concrete info on sensor glass thickness. The guess is it will be similar to EF mount DSLRs to maintain consistency with the EF line. For my uses, the Canon RF system is a logical progression for my EF lens collection. But the Nikon Z cameras would probably be the better fit with adapted rangefinder and other vintage glass, if only for IBIS and thin sensor stack.
I change lenses a lot when I shoot - how much of a hassle is it to set the adapted lens's focal length for correct IBIS operation?...Show more →
For initial Lens introduced, if the system are not for landscape use and not used for travel, Canon is just better. As mentioned in other thread, 50f1.2L is the best 50mm lens I have seen. I have seen many samples and review from it. It is an awesome glass. Sharp, smooth and good color control. 28-70 have great sunstar with almost flawless optics as well. and I do like R's color very much I almost want give the system a try. The system's future looks bright, very bright. They just need a better body IMO.
As mentioned, Z is totally usable for M glass. I am gonna post a few more test results later. I'd suggest you wait a little bit for R's results before make decision, especially for your case with extensive canon Glass. BTW, Canon's adapters are also better with build in control ring. A feature is so good for EC. It is so quick and intuitive to use then a dedicate wheel.
As for CPU lens change, for now, I put it in my customer manu. For two front Fun button, I use for AF and format ratio. Movie button I use for bring up my customer manu. For your case, if you don't need format ratio as much as I do, you can put CPU lens selection there. So it is extreme fast to get it down. One thing keep in mind is at least for now, Z7 won't record EXIF lens information. However IBIS works fine to take what ever lens information you put there.
As for shooting M glass on Z, I don't know how comfortable you do manual focus on it, for me, I have no problem cover most cases with very good success rate especially for M and R glass.(lens like OTUS require absolutely accuracy) Z7 give me best manual focus keeper rate than any other camera I used no matter OVF or EVF. (Leica S is similar under good light, but it is slower than Nikon)
However, I am not sure I can nail focus with wide angle slow glass like 21SEM, I never tried though but my past experience is still M is the best system for that.
A image at least.
35mm VC, look this flare control.
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1973/45577279671_022049f9fc_h.jpg
Edited on Oct 28, 2018 at 03:43 AM · View previous versions
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