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Archive 2018Official: Laowa 10-18mm f/4.5-5.6 FE Zoom at 496 grams
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Fred Miranda wrote:
I've been talking to Laowa about the rear 37mm filter and aperture mechanism. As soon as I get the ok from them, I could share some info here.
Ask them when they're going to start implementing AE/AF in their lenses while you're at it.
I've been talking to Laowa about the rear 37mm filter and aperture mechanism. As soon as I get the ok from them, I could share some info here.
Ask them when they're going to start implementing AE/AF in their lenses while you're at it.
Apr 23, 2018 at 10:19 AM
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Ask them when they're going to start implementing AE/AF in their lenses while you're at it.
I'm pretty sure they won't. Their lenses don't even have electronic EXIF transmission.
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I've been talking to Laowa about the rear 37mm filter and aperture mechanism. As soon as I get the ok from them, I could share some info here.I'm pretty sure they won't. Their lenses don't even have electronic EXIF transmission.
Apr 23, 2018 at 10:25 AM
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Fred Miranda wrote:
Ask them when they're going to start implementing AE/AF in their lenses while you're at it. I'm pretty sure they won't. Their lenses don't even have electronic EXIF transmission.
Well, we used to think the same about Samyang - and now they're making half a dozen AF lenses (with hopefully more to come).
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Fred Miranda wrote
I've been talking to Laowa about the rear 37mm filter and aperture mechanism. As soon as I get the ok from them, I could share some info here.Well, we used to think the same about Samyang - and now they're making half a dozen AF lenses (with hopefully more to come).
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Apr 23, 2018 at 12:09 PM
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Snopchenko wrote:
Ask them when they're going to start implementing AE/AF in their lenses while you're at it. I'm pretty sure they won't. Their lenses don't even have electronic EXIF transmission.Well, we used to think the same about Samyang - and now they're making half a dozen AF lenses (with hopefeully more to come).
Of course anything is possible. However, based on my exchanges with them, I don't believe this will happen anytime soon. Getting EXIF transmission is something I'm hoping could happen soon but not yet for the current announced lenses.
Fred Miranda wrote
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Fred Miranda wrote
I've been talking to Laowa about the rear 37mm filter and aperture mechanism. As soon as I get the ok from them, I could share some info here.Of course anything is possible. However, based on my exchanges with them, I don't believe this will happen anytime soon. Getting EXIF transmission is something I'm hoping could happen soon but not yet for the current announced lenses.
Apr 23, 2018 at 12:15 PM
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There is no space for electronic contacts with the screw in rear filter. I prefer the rear filters very much over exif data for no vignetting on a 10 mm lens and to pack the smalest vs the biggest filter solution for a lens laowa sells as a travel zoom. Just imagine to pack a 100 x 100 filter set plus adapted holder.
Apr 23, 2018 at 12:25 PM
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GartenMoorriem wrote:
There is no space for electronic contacts with the screw in rear filter. I prefer the rear filters very much over exif data for no vignetting on a 10 mm lens and to pack the smalest vs the biggest filter solution for a lens laowa sells as a travel zoom. Just imagine to pack a 100 x 100 filter set plus adapted holder.
Make that 150mm x 150mm...
There is no space for electronic contacts with the screw in rear filter. I prefer the rear filters very much over exif data for no vignetting on a 10 mm lens and to pack the smalest vs the biggest filter solution for a lens laowa sells as a travel zoom. Just imagine to pack a 100 x 100 filter set plus adapted holder.
Make that 150mm x 150mm...
Apr 23, 2018 at 12:33 PM
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I only have 100 x 100. Glad I will not have to try wether they fit.
Apr 23, 2018 at 12:36 PM
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I am quite interested in this lens as I had the Leica M WATE (16-21 f/4) and liked it very much as a wide end solution. What I worry about the Laowa lens is that at f.4.5-5.6 that it won't reach its full potential even at f/8 and wide open it won't be all that good. I would really like the lens to be very good at f/5.6 or 6.3 and excellent by f/8. The WATE was able to accomplish that, but this lens that is slower I have my concerns. I hope I am wrong as this lens would work great either in combination with the Loxia 25, CV 40, & Loxia 85 or the Loxia 21, a future 28, the CV 40, & the CV 65.
Apr 23, 2018 at 12:57 PM
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Fred Miranda wrote:
Make that 150mm x 150mm...
I’m wondering about this as this lens is thinner than the Laowa 15 and if there is a Nisi holder for it at some point. 100x100 could possibly work. I’d even be happy starting at 12mm
GartenMoorriem wrote
There is no space for electronic contacts with the screw in rear filter. I prefer the rear filters very much over exif data for no vignetting on a 10 mm lens and to pack the smalest vs the biggest filter solution for a lens laowa sells as a travel zoom. Just imagine to pack a 100 x 100 filter set plus adapted holder.I’m wondering about this as this lens is thinner than the Laowa 15 and if there is a Nisi holder for it at some point. 100x100 could possibly work. I’d even be happy starting at 12mm
Apr 23, 2018 at 01:11 PM
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GMPhotography wrote:
Make that 150mm x 150mm...I’m wondering about this as this lens is thinner than the Laowa 15 and if there is a Nisi holder for it at some point. 100x100 could possibly work. I’d even be happy starting at 12mm
I believe that at 10mm, it would be 150mm for sure. Lucky we don't have to worry about that with this lens since the extra glass is part of the optimal formula.
Remember the fiasco it was using this clip-on ND filter on the 12-24/4G?
Fred Miranda wrote
GartenMoorriem wrote
There is no space for electronic contacts with the screw in rear filter. I prefer the rear filters very much over exif data for no vignetting on a 10 mm lens and to pack the smalest vs the biggest filter solution for a lens laowa sells as a travel zoom. Just imagine to pack a 100 x 100 filter set plus adapted holder.I believe that at 10mm, it would be 150mm for sure. Lucky we don't have to worry about that with this lens since the extra glass is part of the optimal formula.
Remember the fiasco it was using this clip-on ND filter on the 12-24/4G?
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Apr 23, 2018 at 01:25 PM
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GMPhotography wrote:
Sure, you would have to look through your CPL and orient it before mounting it on the lens but that's not too bad.
Yea that’s what you would have to do . It’s not out but would be a pain. Have to be careful of thickness as well. My guess is they may could possibly make and sell filters for it. Or someone like a Nisi could do a after market unit. This could possibly work with the 70mm filters.
This lens would certainly could hurt the CV 10 and 12mm. I’d buy this first.
Pardon my ignorance but isn't that true only with circular polarizers? I honestly haven't used a linear polarizer. Wouldn't a linear polarizer work best since the lens is MF only and the E-mount meters different than SLRs?
The fact that they include a filter in their pictures makes me hopeful that they incorporated that into he design and that they will sell recommended options.
Too bad the filter makes EXIF data impossible since the contact would be covered.
thrice wrote
Why is CPL out Guy?Sure, you would have to look through your CPL and orient it before mounting it on the lens but that's not too bad.
GMPhotography wrote
Looks like it goes inside the mount itself. If that’s the case CPL is out just NDThis lens would certainly could hurt the CV 10 and 12mm. I’d buy this first.
Pardon my ignorance but isn't that true only with circular polarizers? I honestly haven't used a linear polarizer. Wouldn't a linear polarizer work best since the lens is MF only and the E-mount meters different than SLRs?
The fact that they include a filter in their pictures makes me hopeful that they incorporated that into he design and that they will sell recommended options.
Too bad the filter makes EXIF data impossible since the contact would be covered.
Apr 23, 2018 at 01:32 PM
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Yes I was referring to circular filters. I never used a linear one myself. Not sure how they work
Apr 23, 2018 at 01:38 PM
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GMPhotography wrote:
jhinkey wrote
Fred Miranda wrote
I just confirmed with Laowa that the lens must have the UV filter at all times since it’s part of the optical design. That is really great news since if it wasn’t the case, FC would be an issue.So, according to my source, we just replace the UV filter with a ND whenever needed.
+ 1 on that, if the rear filter is part of the optical design then I would hope they offer a range of filters that match optical characteristics of their clear filter
Apr 23, 2018 at 01:40 PM
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What would be high IQ ND filters with no color cast that comes in 37mm?
Breakthrough photography ND X4 starts at 46mm:
https://breakthrough.photography/products/x4-neutral-density
The Hoya ProND line starts at 46mm as well:
http://www.hoyafilter.com/hoya/products/prondfilters/prond64/
B+W makes NDs in 37mm including a big stop (10-stop) but imo, their filters has a big color cast.
Breakthrough photography ND X4 starts at 46mm:
https://breakthrough.photography/products/x4-neutral-density
The Hoya ProND line starts at 46mm as well:
http://www.hoyafilter.com/hoya/products/prondfilters/prond64/
B+W makes NDs in 37mm including a big stop (10-stop) but imo, their filters has a big color cast.
Apr 23, 2018 at 02:04 PM
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Great question been looking too. Maybe Haida
Apr 23, 2018 at 02:11 PM
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GMPhotography wrote:
Great question been looking too. Maybe Haida
Haida does offer 37mm for their NDs and it could be a good option as long as their glass thickness matches the lens' design.
I have a few of them for other lenses and although high quality, there is significant color cast.
Great question been looking too. Maybe Haida
Haida does offer 37mm for their NDs and it could be a good option as long as their glass thickness matches the lens' design.
I have a few of them for other lenses and although high quality, there is significant color cast.
Apr 23, 2018 at 02:14 PM
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I am very happy with Haida. They have 37 mm and sell them in sets of three woth convenient front and back covers.
Apr 23, 2018 at 02:19 PM
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Fred Miranda wrote:
Haida does offer 37mm for their NDs and it could be a good option as long as their glass thickness matches the lens' design.
I have a few of them for other lenses and although high quality, there is significant color cast.
There’s a Marumi which seems to have decent coatings unlike many at this size
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Marumi-DHG-Neutral-Density-ND64-Filter-37mm-DHG37ND64-Japan-import/401297328499?hash=item5d6f2f4973:g:XIsAAOSw4CFY1qaV
GMPhotography wrote
Great question been looking too. Maybe HaidaI have a few of them for other lenses and although high quality, there is significant color cast.
There’s a Marumi which seems to have decent coatings unlike many at this size
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Marumi-DHG-Neutral-Density-ND64-Filter-37mm-DHG37ND64-Japan-import/401297328499?hash=item5d6f2f4973:g:XIsAAOSw4CFY1qaV
Apr 23, 2018 at 02:25 PM
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They have a 3 and 10 stop. I’m sure there must be a 6 stop
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B076CWNCP1/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1524515068&sr=8-4&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=haida+37mm&dpPl=1&dpID=4116RdTiOmL&ref=plSrch
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B076CWNCP1/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1524515068&sr=8-4&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=haida+37mm&dpPl=1&dpID=4116RdTiOmL&ref=plSrch
Apr 23, 2018 at 02:26 PM
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Best to ask Laowa to publish a list of approved filters
Apr 23, 2018 at 02:29 PM