p.32 #1 · Pre-order: Voigtlander 110/2.5 Macro APO for $1,099
GMPhotography wrote:
Well being a macro it could possibly be not as good at infinity because of the macro design. I’ve seen macros not so great at long distances in the past. Will have to see how these tests come up.
Just like the CV 65/2 APO Macro, the new CV 110 has a floating group (actually a 3-group floating mechanism) which should ensure high resolution at infinity and MFD. So, in theory it should perform great at all distances. We'll see.
p.32 #2 · Pre-order: Voigtlander 110/2.5 Macro APO for $1,099
Fred Miranda wrote:
Just like the CV 65/2 APO Macro, the new CV 110 has a floating group (actually a 3-group floating mechanism) which should ensure high resolution at infinity and MFD. So, in theory it should perform great at all distances. We'll see.
I have not had any reservations about the lens being a stellar performer mfg seem to be able to produce some truly outstanding lenses these days and Voigtlander is no slouch.
My big question is how the bokeh looks say for portraits and how well the lens renders and image and works as a 110mm lens.
I know the macro and close up is going to be state of the art or 99% sure.
p.32 #3 · Pre-order: Voigtlander 110/2.5 Macro APO for $1,099
Looking forward to your observations, Fred. Will be surprised if this lens is anything less than very good at all distances but am particularly curious to see if its infinity performance matches its macro performance. Also, lack of CA is a given. Only real negative I have seen so far is the cats eyes in the bokeh from some early examples which again is not a surprise given the surprisingly (to me) small front filter thread of 58mm. Given the CV 65 is a 67mm thread, I was expecting that again for the 125 but perhaps that would have made the lens too heavy and/or not conveyed a significant benefit?
p.32 #4 · Pre-order: Voigtlander 110/2.5 Macro APO for $1,099
Luvwine wrote:
Looking forward to your observations, Fred. Will be surprised if this lens is anything less than very good at all distances but am particularly curious to see if its infinity performance matches its macro performance. Also, lack of CA is a given. Only real negative I have seen so far is the cats eyes in the bokeh from some early examples which again is not a surprise given the surprisingly (to me) small front filter thread of 58mm. Given the CV 65 is a 67mm thread, I was expecting that again for the 125 but perhaps that would have made the lens too heavy and/or not conveyed a significant benefit?...Show more →
True, mechanical vignetting is a negative. I see some swirling rendering as "cat-eye" specular highlights become noticeable starting at mid-field. Here is a sample:
1:1 crop from the image above...Sharp at close distance!
p.32 #5 · Pre-order: Voigtlander 110/2.5 Macro APO for $1,099
Fred Miranda wrote:
Just like the CV 65/2 APO Macro, the new CV 110 has a floating group (actually a 3-group floating mechanism) which should ensure high resolution at infinity and MFD. So, in theory it should perform great at all distances. We'll see.
Many lenses have floating elements, including newer Macro lenses, but don't perform at the same level at the near/far distances. Since getting my great copy of the Sony 90 I convinced myself that I don't need the 110. I guess if it were the 65 in a 110 focal length I might be tempted. Especially if the matched IQ of the 90 at macro but had better infinity performance. Not an easy task.
p.32 #7 · Pre-order: Voigtlander 110/2.5 Macro APO for $1,099
pdmphoto wrote:
Many lenses have floating elements, including newer Macro lenses, but don't perform at the same level at the near/far distances. Since getting my great copy of the Sony 90 I convinced myself that I don't need the 110. I guess if it were the 65 in a 110 focal length I might be tempted. Especially if the matched IQ of the 90 at macro but had better infinity performance. Not an easy task.
This is true, but we've been spoiled by the CV 65/2 APO's performance at all distances. (It's not a 1:1 macro lens tough)
Only the Batis 135/2.8 APO performs similarly at infinity distance.
As my initial testing shows, the new 110/2.5 seems to be optimal at closer distances. I will test it more today.
I also tested the 65/2 APO + (Marumi 5+) achromat and was surprised by how similar they performed at f/4 and MFD. (Both 1:1 MACRO). Of course the working distance it bigger with the 110.
p.32 #8 · Pre-order: Voigtlander 110/2.5 Macro APO for $1,099
Fred Miranda wrote:
Just like the CV 65/2 APO Macro, the new CV 110 has a floating group (actually a 3-group floating mechanism) which should ensure high resolution at infinity and MFD. So, in theory it should perform great at all distances. We'll see.
I wish the floating element group in my eyes worked the same way!
They used to at 18, not so much at 53.
p.32 #9 · Pre-order: Voigtlander 110/2.5 Macro APO for $1,099
Fred Miranda wrote:
This is true, but we've been spoiled by the CV 65/2 APO's performance at all distances. (It's not a 1:1 macro lens tough)
Only the Batis 135/2.8 APO performs similarly at infinity distance.
As my initial testing shows, the new 110/2.5 seems to be optimal at closer distances. I will test it more today.
I also tested the 65/2 APO + (Marumi 5+) achromat and was surprised by how similar they performed at f/4 and MFD. (Both 1:1 MACRO). Of course the working distance it bigger with the 110.
Well, my 135/1.8 Sigma supposedly arrives today, so that may be my infinity ~135mm lens for landscapes - we'll see.
Hopefully the 110/2.5 is sharp enough at infinity accross the frame to make it worthwhile. I can forgive a little bit of non-tack sharpness if contrast, flare/ghosting, and great sun stars are the result.
My 90/3.5 SL-II is kind of that way - excellent up close and looses just a tad at infinity at 42.5MP, but it's equally sharp across the frame at infinity, so is good for landscapes.
p.32 #10 · Pre-order: Voigtlander 110/2.5 Macro APO for $1,099
jhinkey wrote:
Well, my 135/1.8 Sigma supposedly arrives today, so that may be my infinity ~135mm lens for landscapes - we'll see.
Hopefully the 110/2.5 is sharp enough at infinity accross the frame to make it worthwhile. I can forgive a little bit of non-tack sharpness if contrast, flare/ghosting, and great sun stars are the result.
My 90/3.5 SL-II is kind of that way - excellent up close and looses just a tad at infinity at 42.5MP, but it's equally sharp across the frame at infinity, so is good for landscapes.
I'll just say, having recently dragged my newish Batis 135 to Southern Utah for landscapes, this lens is the bees knees for landscape teles. I have zero regrets not having waited for the 110 CV - even as a CV 65 lover.
p.32 #11 · Pre-order: Voigtlander 110/2.5 Macro APO for $1,099
liftedspirit wrote:
I'll just say, having recently dragged my newish Batis 135 to Southern Utah for landscapes, this lens is the bees knees for landscape teles. I have zero regrets not having waited for the 110 CV - even as a CV 65 lover.
Agreed aside from sunstars. The Batis 135 is amazing throughout the focal range.
p.32 #12 · Pre-order: Voigtlander 110/2.5 Macro APO for $1,099
jhinkey wrote:
Well, my 135/1.8 Sigma supposedly arrives today, so that may be my infinity ~135mm lens for landscapes - we'll see.
Hopefully the 110/2.5 is sharp enough at infinity accross the frame to make it worthwhile. I can forgive a little bit of non-tack sharpness if contrast, flare/ghosting, and great sun stars are the result.
My 90/3.5 SL-II is kind of that way - excellent up close and looses just a tad at infinity at 42.5MP, but it's equally sharp across the frame at infinity, so is good for landscapes.
liftedspirit wrote:
I'll just say, having recently dragged my newish Batis 135 to Southern Utah for landscapes, this lens is the bees knees for landscape teles. I have zero regrets not having waited for the 110 CV - even as a CV 65 lover.
I am going to just stay with my Leica R 100mm f2/8 Apo-Macro-Elmarit along with the Leica 1:1 Elpro. Add to that I can use my Leica R 2X Apo Extender. To add to the mix I will see how the lens performs with my Sony 1.4X Teleconverter placed between my Novoflex Leica R to NEX adapter (the teleconverter protrusion fits inside the adapter) and my Sony A7r or A7rIII cameras. The Leica performs extremely well for both close-up and landscape work.
p.32 #14 · Pre-order: Voigtlander 110/2.5 Macro APO for $1,099
liftedspirit wrote:
I'll just say, having recently dragged my newish Batis 135 to Southern Utah for landscapes, this lens is the bees knees for landscape teles. I have zero regrets not having waited for the 110 CV - even as a CV 65 lover.
I’m the Batis 135 biggest fan. Been saying how good it is since it came out
p.32 #15 · Pre-order: Voigtlander 110/2.5 Macro APO for $1,099
I want to do some infinity tests but it's raining here!
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p.32 #16 · Pre-order: Voigtlander 110/2.5 Macro APO for $1,099
Oh no way! I had very little interest in this lens before seeing that swirl. LOVE it. Phew!! I was thinking it was going to be another "too perfect" lens.
So, accounting for subjective tastes, this could be a positive for some folks. I know you'll be entertaining a lot of requests, being the first to get a hands-on with this guy, but can you please do a few samples wide open at portrait / head-shoulders distance?
My short tele stash is made up of lenses that render "too flat" (Hexanon, Takumar) or "too sharp" (G90) for portrait work. This could be a Goldilocks situation here.
Fred Miranda wrote:
True, mechanical vignetting is a negative. I see some swirling rendering as "cat-eye" specular highlights become noticeable starting at mid-field. Here is a sample:
p.32 #17 · Pre-order: Voigtlander 110/2.5 Macro APO for $1,099
imagesfromobjects wrote:
Oh no way! I had very little interest in this lens before seeing that swirl. LOVE it. Phew!! I was thinking it was going to be another "too perfect" lens.
So, accounting for subjective tastes, this could be a positive for some folks. I know you'll be entertaining a lot of requests, being the first to get a hands-on with this guy, but can you please do a few samples wide open at portrait / head-shoulders distance?
My short tele stash is made up of lenses that render "too flat" (Hexanon, Takumar) or "too sharp" (G90) for portrait work. This could be a Goldilocks situation here.
Mechanical vignetting will be part of the lens' character so I can see how that's actually subjective. The 110/2.5 is great for portraits, sharp as a tack...I will post samples later on.
