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Archive 2017 · Pre-orders open! Sony A7R III and FE 24-105mm f/4 OSS lens!

  
 
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I would think there major market is outside of Japan where consumers have larger hands

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The A7RII doesn't offer electronic shutter in continuous mode, and does black the viewfinder when using the physical shutter (no way not to, unless you freeze the EVF image).


I can't see anything unrefined about the A7R III that suggests it was released before it was ready. It lacks Playmemories Apps and lossless RAW compression, but so does the A9, I doubt either of those things will be addressed any time soon. Yes it has the same number of megapixels as the previous model, but so does the A7II. DR improvments are going to be hard to come by going
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Nov 02, 2017 at 11:05 AM
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PrecisionPhoto wrote:
I would think there major market is outside of Japan where consumers have larger hands


There is also the option of going back shooting with a SLR.



Nov 02, 2017 at 11:08 AM
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PrecisionPhoto wrote:
I would think there major market is outside of Japan where consumers have larger hands


The non-Asia market it larger in total but it's also much less interested in mirrorless. Asia is the most important market for Sony right now.



Nov 02, 2017 at 11:20 AM
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That sounds like “love it or leave it” mentally of the USA instead of love it and make it better
Every complaint towards Sony cameras gets criticized but in the end many of the complaints are address by Sony even though the complainer is harassed for the complaint

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There is also the option of going back shooting with a SLR.




Nov 02, 2017 at 11:59 AM
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Matt Grum wrote:
I can't see anything unrefined about the A7R III that suggests it was released before it was ready. It lacks Playmemories Apps and lossless RAW compression, but so does the A9, I doubt either of those things will be addressed any time soon. Yes it has the same number of megapixels as the previous model, but so does the A7II. DR improvments are going to be hard to come by going forward as read noise is already so low (n.b. DR is increased vs the II for some methods of measuring DR).

A9 like AF/fps/electronic shutter will depend on a
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I guess Sony needs to implement that integrated thermoelectric sensor cooling capability in the A10R to get that last bit of DR in the shadows



Nov 02, 2017 at 12:29 PM
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PrecisionPhoto wrote:
That sounds like “love it or leave it” mentally of the USA instead of love it and make it better
Every complaint towards Sony cameras gets criticized but in the end many of the complaints are address by Sony even though the complainer is harassed for the complaint


I'm not harassing you, far from it. You think having a smaller camera (smaller grip) is a drawback that needs to be fixed. However, it's a plus for many shooters and it's actually a differential for the Sony mirrorless system.
If that does not work for you, there are other options available including using the grip extension, vertical battery grip or the Sony A99 if you want to stay with Sony.



Nov 02, 2017 at 12:57 PM
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Im definitely going to stay with Sony but like many see changes that would help improve the enjoyment of the camera
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I'm not harassing you, far from it. You think having a smaller camera (smaller grip) is a drawback that needs to be fixed. However, it's a plus for many shooters and it's actually a differential for the Sony mirrorless system.
If that does not work for you, there are other options available including using the grip extension, vertical battery grip or the Sony A99 if you want to stay with Sony.



Nov 02, 2017 at 01:07 PM
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Im sure there is a limited amount of space in the grip itself. They put in a larger battery and the only way to get more of a gap is make the whole camera wider. For them that may not be a option as they are trying to keep there line smaller than the competition and view that as a competitive edge. I don't have a issue myself and i have sausage fingers.

I do understand this one size fits all does not always work but Canon and Nikon have the same issue with the one size fits all. No way in hell I'm I going back because its too big. Not something I want anymore. This is not like buying a 20 golf glove to fit your hands. I agree with Fred if it don't work no one is twisting anyones arm to buy Sony. Bottom line it is what they make just like any car, buy that model or find another one. This is just basic logic



Nov 02, 2017 at 01:08 PM
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I just now noticed that the A7rIII has pixel shifting - and the examples posted on today's Sony Rumors show a significant difference in detail! Argh! I didn't want to pack cameras that have different batteries!!


Nov 02, 2017 at 01:16 PM
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I just now noticed that the A7rIII has pixel shifting - and the examples posted on today's Sony Rumors show a significant difference in detail! Argh! I didn't want to pack cameras that have different batteries!!


You could use a USB charger and have the battery in each camera always topped up. I do this all of the time with my A7RII. That way, you don't need to bring extra Sony batteries.

A nice upgrade to the A7RIII is the ability to use an accessory with the microUSB port (like a wired intervalometer) while charging the battery via the USB-C port. The A7RII only has the microUSB port, which is what I use for charging.



Nov 02, 2017 at 03:39 PM
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You could use a USB charger and have the battery in each camera always topped up. I do this all of the time with my A7RII. That way, you don't need to bring extra Sony batteries.

A nice upgrade to the A7RIII is the ability to use an accessory with the microUSB port (like a wired intervalometer) while charging the battery via the USB-C port. The A7RII only has the microUSB port, which is what I use for charging.


I assume you are talking about a USB battery pack - not a plug in charger? That's a novel idea!



Nov 02, 2017 at 03:53 PM
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dbehrens wrote:
I assume you are talking about a USB battery pack - not a plug in charger? That's a novel idea!


That's correct. When I shoot, I just keep my A7RII plugged in to my USB battery via a USB>microUSB cable. The camera will operate and charge at the same time. If I'm shooting handheld, I will put the USB battery in my pocket; if I am shooting with a tripod, I attach it to my tripod. Because the microUSB connector on the A7RII is flimsy, I use a Tether Tools JerkStopper to stabilize the cable. It works remarkably well.




Nov 02, 2017 at 09:48 PM
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Awesome camera, but I need to keep building my glass first.
The new 24-105 completes the F4 zoom trinity, so that's more of a priority.

Next year it will be mine.



Nov 03, 2017 at 10:09 AM
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dbehrens wrote:
I assume you are talking about a USB battery pack - not a plug in charger? That's a novel idea!


If you want to charge batteries via USB power pack on the road without the camera that is trivial and cheap too. I've used this tiny cadget for years, in fact it has been only charger I've used in last 3 years.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dual-USB-Battery-Charger-for-NP-FW50-for-Sony-Alpha-DSLR-A6000-ILCE-6000-Camera/112625207977



Nov 03, 2017 at 10:14 AM
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scrappydog wrote:
That's correct. When I shoot, I just keep my A7RII plugged in to my USB battery via a USB>microUSB cable. The camera will operate and charge at the same time. If I'm shooting handheld, I will put the USB battery in my pocket; if I am shooting with a tripod, I attach it to my tripod. Because the microUSB connector on the A7RII is flimsy, I use a Tether Tools JerkStopper to stabilize the cable. It works remarkably well.



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tn1krr wrote:
If you want to charge batteries via USB power pack on the road without the camera that is trivial and cheap too. I've used this tiny cadget for years, in fact it has been only charger I've used in last 3 years.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dual-USB-Battery-Charger-for-NP-FW50-for-Sony-Alpha-DSLR-A6000-ILCE-6000-Camera/112625207977


This is why I continue to appreciate FM! I've kept a USB flashlight more for what in my mind was "emergency" charging of cell phone or InReach Explorer and just carried handfulls of camera batteries to areas where there was no electricity or vehicle. You guys just introduced a paradigm shift in my planning and packing. Thanks!



Nov 03, 2017 at 10:30 AM
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dbehrens wrote:
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This is why I continue to appreciate FM! I've kept a USB flashlight more for what in my mind was "emergency" charging of cell phone or InReach Explorer and just carried handfulls of camera batteries to areas where there was no electricity or vehicle. You guys just introduced a paradigm shift in my planning and packing. Thanks!


Yep, I've used this for my A7RII batteries - I like being able to see what the state of charge is on each battery so I don't have to put it in the camera to see the % charge:

https://www.amazon.com/NITECORE-Digital-Batteries-Compatible-DSC-RX10s/dp/B074MBMDS3/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1509724706&sr=8-1&keywords=Nitecore+USN1

USB cable is a little short, but great for travel.

Being able to charge the battery in the A7RII is one of those little things that I marvel at that Sony was able to pack into the A7 series bodies. Why can't I do that with my D800?



Nov 03, 2017 at 11:00 AM
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Is there any raws around. Capture One just updated and I can now see the A7rIII files. plus it looks like the updated a bunch of glass


Nov 03, 2017 at 12:23 PM
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GMPhotography wrote:
Is there any raws around. Capture One just updated and I can now see the A7rIII files. plus it looks like the updated a bunch of glass


Try this: http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/sony-a7r-iii/sony-a7r-iiiGALLERY.HTM



Nov 03, 2017 at 12:35 PM
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If you want to charge batteries via USB power pack on the road without the camera that is trivial and cheap too. I've used this tiny cadget for years, in fact it has been only charger I've used in last 3 years.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dual-USB-Battery-Charger-for-NP-FW50-for-Sony-Alpha-DSLR-A6000-ILCE-6000-Camera/112625207977


Yep, those are so cheap (around 20 something euros here in Europe with two clone batteries) that I just have two of them, one in the car one at home to charge the batteries when I need it...

Together with one of those three ports usb chargers, I charge at night when traveling up to four batteries plus my mobile phone in the same power outlet.




Nov 03, 2017 at 01:14 PM
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GMPhotography wrote:
Is there any raws around. Capture One just updated and I can now see the A7rIII files. plus it looks like the updated a bunch of glass


http://www.photographyblog.com/previews/sony_a7r_iii_photos, just scroll down a bit.



Nov 03, 2017 at 03:44 PM
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