Archive 2017 · Pre-orders open! Sony A7R III and FE 24-105mm f/4 OSS lens!
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p.23 #1 · Pre-orders open! Sony A7R III and FE 24-105mm f/4 OSS lens!
Matt Grum wrote:
Ah but if you increase well depth and increase efficiency of the sensor then the lowest ISO could stay the same, whilst DR improves
However, I doubt that is the case here. They've probably just cleaned up the shadows a bit at ISO 100. I am also expecting less than a stop improvement in DR over the A7R II if this is the case.
And if they increased well depth and efficiency I think there would be zero chance that they wouldn't play up the sensor as new and improved. Those would be significant improvements and of course Sony would be talking about them in their official documents about the camera. Instead we only get very vague information about any improvements in the sensor.
p.23 #4 · Pre-orders open! Sony A7R III and FE 24-105mm f/4 OSS lens!
Pre-Ordered!
Oct 26, 2017 at 09:03 AM
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p.23 #5 · Pre-orders open! Sony A7R III and FE 24-105mm f/4 OSS lens!
GMPhotography wrote:
Can I just say I’m giving Sony a little more credit with there numbers than the conspiracy theory going on here. It’s 15 stops folks get over it, they found ways to clean up the pipeline and until proven wrong than we are all guessing until tests are done. Bottom line there is a improvement now how much that is will be determined . Yea I’m not a big marketing guy either and sometimes these things are misleading. But looks like the effort is there
Guy, no conspiracy theory here. I started questioning the 15 stop thing when it was never mentioned in Sony's description of the camera on their web page. People get excited by a new camera that comes out and they want want everything about it to be improved. Well lots of new versions of a camera have come out with essentially the same sensor and none of them have had anywhere near a stop improvement in DR. A small improvement yes, but a stop improvement I think that takes a new sensor design. Keep in mind that the DR on the A7r II was excellent, so even if it is just a small improvement it will still have excellent DR and for you it will be more than a stop better than your A9, which still is no slouch.
p.23 #6 · Pre-orders open! Sony A7R III and FE 24-105mm f/4 OSS lens!
Both Pre-Ordered. Okay I'm officially sick in the head
Nov 30 th shipping folks. I have a gig on the 5th.
Oct 26, 2017 at 09:07 AM
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p.23 #7 · Pre-orders open! Sony A7R III and FE 24-105mm f/4 OSS lens!
Jonathan Brady wrote:
In regards to the dynamic range I think I remember something about video dynamic range being measured in a different way than photographic dynamic range. This is from my days with Canon when they announced some sort of professional level video camera and the dynamic range to go with it seemed absurdly High but that's because the photographic Community was assessing it, not the videographer community. Is there any chance this is a video related dynamic range spec?
Well the spec isn't anywhere in Sony's literature so it is very hard to evaluate the claim. I do believe this camera will have much better video dynamic range than the A7r II but that will be due in large part to the slog3 which is a great help for video dynamic range.
p.23 #10 · Pre-orders open! Sony A7R III and FE 24-105mm f/4 OSS lens!
The 24-105 looks nice, but I'm still hoping for a 24-70 replacement. Maybe the market will get flooded with cheap 24-70s as well. If that's the case, I might be picking one up. I prefer small size to the zoom range, but I would really like a nice walkabout.
p.23 #11 · Pre-orders open! Sony A7R III and FE 24-105mm f/4 OSS lens!
Steve Spencer wrote:
Guy, no conspiracy theory here. I started questioning the 15 stop thing when it was never mentioned in Sony's description of the camera on their web page. People get excited by a new camera that comes out and they want want everything about it to be improved. Well lots of new versions of a camera has come out with essentially the same sensor and none of them have had anywhere near a stop improvement in DR. A small improvement yes, but a stop improvement I think that takes a new sensor design. Keep in mind that the DR on the A7r II was excellent, so even if it is just a small improvement it will still have excellent DR and for you it will be more than a stop better than your A9, which still is no slouch....Show more →
Agree totally. But I actually have a good feeling on this one. It maybe exactly the same sensor no doubt but the whole pipeline has changed. Now the marketing and proof that its 15 stops is going to be vague anyway . So maybe they are just downplaying that feature and have ore to talk about with the Pixel Shift technology.
But looking at the description on B&H this is the very first sentence
Featuring a back-illuminated design, the full-frame 42.4-megapixel Exmor R CMOS sensor works with the BIONZ X image processor to offer high-resolution stills and video while minimizing noise and improving speed. This sensor structure works with gapless on-chip lens design and an anti-reflection coating, as well as eliminating the optical low-pass filter, to improve light collection and enhance detail
p.23 #13 · Pre-orders open! Sony A7R III and FE 24-105mm f/4 OSS lens!
I pre-ordered too. My email receipt came in at 10:01, so while I am sure there were a bunch before me, hopefully I will get it on the day they are shipping. Heading out of town late November so am hoping to get it before my trip....
p.23 #14 · Pre-orders open! Sony A7R III and FE 24-105mm f/4 OSS lens!
Steve Spencer wrote:
Well the spec isn't anywhere in Sony's literature so it is very hard to evaluate the claim. I do believe this camera will have much better video dynamic range than the A7r II but that will be due in large part to the slog3 which is a great help for video dynamic range.
p.23 #16 · Pre-orders open! Sony A7R III and FE 24-105mm f/4 OSS lens!
Pre-ordered via the link here. Clicked on it right at 10am, we'll see how many they got in the first shipment. Surely there aren't that many people as crazy as us where we have a calendar reminder to order a camera right when a preorder opens, right?
Funny thing was I confirmed the sale of my A6500 & related APS-C lenses a few minutes before 10:00 on the B&S boards. I'll survive with "only" my A7R2 until this ships. Leaving for Maui in less than 2 weeks, so it'll have a nice send-off trip.
p.23 #17 · Pre-orders open! Sony A7R III and FE 24-105mm f/4 OSS lens!
I am going to wait on the 24-105. I am using the C/Y 35-70 and think it works well for stopped down landscape. I prefer primes for walk around. I am, as usual, frustrated by the lack of good data on new lenses from any manufacturer other than Zeiss and Leica re MTF graphs. The Sony graphs are fictional as they don't account for diffraction and they are only computer modeled (not measured). Even to the extent they are accurate, they only to to 30LPM instead of 40 with Leica and Zeiss and 50 from some other sources like Lens Rentals. Thus, while some Sony lenses have been remarkable performers (12-24/4, 100 STF, 85 GM in my experience), it is really hard to know how good this new longer range zoom will be. Thus, I will wait for folks here to give some reliable reports....
p.23 #20 · Pre-orders open! Sony A7R III and FE 24-105mm f/4 OSS lens!
Rather than all this speculation and analysis of marketing wording, let's just wait until we have camera in hand and can analyze the real thing. Two things that need to be looked into is the AF improvements and the image quality improvements. For this, we need to have a camera.
Is there an actual hard shipping date that has been revealed?