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Archive 2017 · Pre-orders open! Sony A7R III and FE 24-105mm f/4 OSS lens!

  
 
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LBJ2 wrote:
Today for some reason, I decided to sell my well cared for, two-year old A7r2 and am looking to get the shutter count. The tool I normally use doesn't seem to be working with macOS High Sierra. http://tools.science.si/index.php Any other apps out there I might try?



A7Rii can use electronic shutter right?
So you will never be able to get exact shutter count unless Sony wants you to.
Probably Precision repair would tell you for a fee.



Oct 25, 2017 at 04:25 PM
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Apps and a marriage.
Had a hard nap after my shift in the hospital.
Had a quasi-waking dream and saw a marriage.
Why use the camera's computer horsepower to run the app when the smartphone has a pretty
decent computer and memory.
The marriage already begun with having the phone due the the GPS/location work and reporting.
Future app developments for Sony cameras will be smartphone based.
Only if Sony made smartphones eh
Sony cameras and Sony smartphone just might get married and in ways we cannot imaging now=complete extensions of each other.
Then my nap ended.

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Oct 25, 2017 at 04:28 PM
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Arka wrote:
Have you tried the A9? I'm having a hard time understanding what there isn't to like about that camera. The ergonomics and customizability are superb. There are a few quirks that I would love to take out of the buried menus, and some commonly used things (like formatting cards) are little more deeply buried than I'd prefer. I'd also like to a lock on the rear function wheel (I use if for ISO, and more than once it gets bumped to the wrong ISO). But between the custom buttons and the 3 memory modes, I'm hard pressed to find things
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You can lock down the buttons. It’s in the menu somewhere but you can kick in so you don’t hit something by mistake



Oct 25, 2017 at 04:29 PM
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MedicineMan404 wrote:
A7Rii can use electronic shutter right?
So you will never be able to get exact shutter count unless Sony wants you to.
Probably Precision repair would tell you for a fee.


Hmmm. I know the Sony A9 doesn't provide that in EXIF, but I thought I was able to get an estimate with this tool for the A7rII at some point in the past. Maybe I was mistaken. Thanks for the response.



Oct 25, 2017 at 04:32 PM
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GMPhotography wrote:
You can lock down the buttons. It’s in the menu somewhere but you can kick in so you don’t hit something by mistake


You're right. I think I found it, but it's not quite perfect. It locks down all of the dials, including the control wheel.



Oct 25, 2017 at 04:46 PM
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Yea I have yet to try it . Good to know


Oct 25, 2017 at 04:47 PM
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I need to be honest: it reminds me a bit on the Canon 5D MkII and MkIII story years back: no improvement in sensor, just focus on AF performance. I personally hoped to see a 60 MP FF sensor with even more DR.....

Sorry, not interested in the A7R III since I don't need 4K video nor all the AF features....and not getting some of the Sony apps anymore is a big bummer here, too.


It's not like the 5D Mk II to Mk III upgrade in the sense Sony claim's 1-stop improvement in dynamic range and there is also doubling of the frame rate. The 5D Mk III upgrade was mostly towards build, ergonomics and AF.

I was also excepting higher resolution but it seems that 42.2MP is the sweet spot for improving DR while still having high resolution and great video specs. Still no ISO 64 though.

I'm definitely getting the new A7RIII while keeping my A7RII as a backup camera. I will miss not having Smooth Reflections and Time Lapse but there are workarounds.



Oct 25, 2017 at 04:51 PM
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I'm in. Just emailed my dealer who I has asked a while ago to put me on the list for when it got released


Oct 25, 2017 at 04:53 PM
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LBJ2 wrote:
Today for some reason, I decided to sell my well cared for, two-year old A7r2 and am looking to get the shutter count. The tool I normally use doesn't seem to be working with macOS High Sierra. http://tools.science.si/index.php Any other apps out there I might try?

exiftool will show you the count. Run it against your most recent photo and look for the "Image Count" field in the resulting output.



Oct 25, 2017 at 04:55 PM
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It's not like the 5D Mk II to Mk III upgrade in the sense Sony claim's 1-stop improvement in dynamic range and there is also doubling of the frame rate. The 5D Mk III upgrade was mostly towards build, ergonomics and AF.

I was also excepting higher resolution but it seems that 42.2MP is the sweet spot for improving DR while still having high resolution and great video specs. Still no ISO 64 though.

I'm definitely getting the new A7RIII while keeping my A7RII as a backup camera. I will miss not having Smooth Reflections and Time Lapse but there are
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Yes...but the improvement in regard to sensor and IQ is still minimal (let's see in final tests how effective the 1 step in DR really is and where it counts (low/high ISO)) - and this is what I related to with the 5D MkII/III comparison (ok, in the Canon case there was zero improvement in IQ, now here with Sony it is a tiny bit). And fps....I find it totally useless for applications the A7R originally was made for. 1 fps is totally fine for me with this kind of high res/high DR camera....different story for the A9 where applications for it need this kind of high fps. If I would upgrade from my A7R, it clearly would be the A7R II and not the A7R III.

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Oct 25, 2017 at 04:58 PM
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i got mine on pre-order already


Oct 25, 2017 at 05:00 PM
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I will miss not having Smooth Reflections and Time Lapse but there are workarounds.


Which are?! ND filter usage again and intervalometer



Oct 25, 2017 at 05:00 PM
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GMPhotography wrote:
I’m probably going to sell my A9 but this was my plan all along.


That's what I'm waiting... so I can finally get an A9 at an affordable price...



Oct 25, 2017 at 05:04 PM
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retrofocus wrote:
Yes...but the improvement in regard to sensor and IQ is still minimal (let's see in final tests how effective the 1 step in DR really is and where it counts (low/high ISO)) - and this is what I related to with the 5D MkII/III comparison (ok, in the Canon case there was zero improvement in IQ, now here with Sony it is a tiny bit). And fps....I find it totally useless for applications the A7R originally was made for. 1 fps is totally fine for me with this kind of high res/high DR camera....different story for the A9 where applications
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retrofocus,
If true, a 1-stop improvement in dynamic range is not tiny though.
Also, even though higher frames per second or video specs are not useful to you, it is for many shooters combining high resolution with speed. It basically beats the Nikon D850 at 7 frames per second (or 9 with grip)



Oct 25, 2017 at 05:05 PM
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Which are?! ND filter usage again and intervalometer


keeping the A7rii as a second body



Oct 25, 2017 at 05:05 PM
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retrofocus wrote:
Which are?! ND filter usage again and intervalometer


Yes!
back to NDs and external intervalometer...



Oct 25, 2017 at 05:05 PM
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Not even considering letting my A9 go until I can either rent the A7RIII in person and evaluate AF / Eye-AF performance, or someone on YouTube does a serious comparison between the two, specifically on AF differences (or lack thereof). The A9 is darn near perfect except for 24MP, and even that's a bonus in some scenarios where we don't have to worry too much about lens resolving power.

The largest I ever print is 24x36 and 42MP is still overkill for that in 99% of scenarios relevant for me.



Oct 25, 2017 at 05:06 PM
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Fred Miranda wrote:
It's not like the 5D Mk II to Mk III upgrade in the sense Sony claim's 1-stop improvement in dynamic range and there is also doubling of the frame rate. The 5D Mk III upgrade was mostly towards build, ergonomics and AF.

I was also excepting higher resolution but it seems that 42.2MP is the sweet spot for improving DR while still having high resolution and great video specs. Still no ISO 64 though.

I'm definitely getting the new A7RIII while keeping my A7RII as a backup camera. I will miss not having Smooth Reflections and Time Lapse but there are
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The resolution makes sense because they could use the same sensor. I wonder what limitations resulted from this decision? Cover glass and all downstream improved, but For now, all is marketing. For those with the A9, I would not sell until we have more real world info.



Oct 25, 2017 at 05:09 PM
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Yea the more I look at things I want to rent it first before I sell my A9. I’m backing off my plan and that’s because nothing is going to touch this A9 anytime soon. If I had the A7rII currently you could not spit fast enough I would have it in my hands. Lol

The lack of AF points is a problem for me and one reason I went to the A9. I’m not in any hurry either..

The 24-105 I am getting for sure . I need a PR type zoom anyway so this is a no brainer.


The real bottom line is I’m downgrading for MPX and I still may do it but like others I need to know how much improvement there really is in operation. Hell I could always buy back a A7rII cheap and keep the A9.


What I need to see again is the AF area shown on the A7RIII just a image of that 68 percent



Oct 25, 2017 at 05:37 PM
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Fred Miranda wrote:
retrofocus,
If true, a 1-stop improvement in dynamic range is not tiny though.
Also, even though higher frames per second or video specs are not useful to you, it is for many shooters combining high resolution with speed. It basically beats the Nikon D850 at 7 frames per second (or 9 with grip)


If the 1-stop increase in DR is at low ISO, yes, I think this would be great indeed. But if it is at high ISO....couldn't care less....



Oct 25, 2017 at 05:41 PM
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