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GMPhotography wrote:
It would beat the GM on sharpness. Bokeh no to a certain degree


Relative sharpness between lenses at this level are all in the "more than good enough for years to come" category for me.

I might be concerned if there was a huge falloff in sharpness to the corners wide-open but even then, that may just inform my usage.

i also haven't seen nor heard anyone discuss any major flaws with color fringing, etc w/ the Sigma - it's quite impressive all around. and with a BlackRapid strap, it wasn't awful to walk around with (yet).


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May 11, 2017 at 12:46 PM
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There is no CA that I can find. I ran two tests that every lens it shows up in except for the Sigma 135 and the Sony 50 1.4. Every other lens it's a guarantee to show up. So answer is I can't find any CA

This lens is damn impressive for sure.



May 11, 2017 at 12:57 PM
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GMPhotography wrote:
There is no CA that I can find. I ran two tests that every lens it shows up in except for the Sigma 135 and the Sony 50 1.4. Every other lens it's a guarantee to show up. So answer is I can't find any CA

This lens is damn impressive for sure.


yes, it was your shots that showed how 'clean' the lens is and Joshua's where i managed to look past the women (it was hard, but somehow i persevered) to see the super-smooth backgrounds that made me think the Sigma could actually be a mate for the 50/1.4 - one of the attractions to the Batis (besides size/weight) was it's APO designation - but this Sigma is super 'clean'.

i could probably live w/o an 85 as long as i had something that could do the "smooth" and so far i have to say i'm really surprised that i'm even considering keeping this Sigma (although as i said, it was a distinct possibility otherwise i would not have ordered it). when i shot Nikon, i was in the process of switching over to Sigma already.

so the Sigma might be on par with the Batis for "APO" (TBD) and nearly as smooth (but not quite) as the 85GM.
then, it just becomes a matter of size/weight (as far as knocks against the Sigma) and the Batis potential knocks would be aperture (need to determine if i can live with f/2.8) and possible swirly (to what extent does it exist and under what conditions).

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May 11, 2017 at 01:02 PM
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p.14 #4 · p.14 #4 · Sigma 135mm F1.8 Tests and Review Ongoing


Why I don't test pretty women. It's distracting😀

I test ugly crap so I know how bad things are at least in the beginning of tests. Everyone tries to make nice images. I do the opposite. I think it tells us more



May 11, 2017 at 01:17 PM
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p.14 #5 · p.14 #5 · Sigma 135mm F1.8 Tests and Review Ongoing


GMPhotography wrote:
Why I don't test pretty women. It's distracting😀

I test ugly crap so I know how bad things are at least in the beginning of tests. Everyone tries to make nice images. I do the opposite. I think it tells us more


yes, i try to find the most distracting Backgrounds (not foregrounds ), b/c my typical usage is walking around w/ family/friends and there's nothing but distracting/ugly backgrounds.

Joshua is living the dream, however



May 11, 2017 at 01:23 PM
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p.14 #6 · p.14 #6 · Sigma 135mm F1.8 Tests and Review Ongoing


ecarlino wrote:
yes, i try to find the most distracting Backgrounds (not foregrounds ), b/c my typical usage is walking around w/ family/friends and there's nothing but distracting/ugly backgrounds.

Joshua is living the dream, however



Guys, I wasn't out there testing my lens.... I was actually shooting and the pretty models happened to be roaming around the place. So, why not take advantage of the situation, right? I could use their eyelashes to evaluate the sharpness of the lens, too. And it works perfectly . Pictures explain the story better.....



© AGeoJO 2017





© AGeoJO 2017


A crop of the face from the image above




May 11, 2017 at 01:53 PM
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p.14 #7 · p.14 #7 · Sigma 135mm F1.8 Tests and Review Ongoing


AGeoJO wrote:
I was actually shooting and the pretty models happened to be roaming around the place.


Joshua, the little boy inside of me actually wants to believe that such a place exists!



May 11, 2017 at 01:55 PM
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p.14 #8 · p.14 #8 · Sigma 135mm F1.8 Tests and Review Ongoing


Wait where the heck have I been. Doing this 40 years and pretty girls don't roam anywhere to be free models. Lol


May 11, 2017 at 01:58 PM
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p.14 #9 · p.14 #9 · Sigma 135mm F1.8 Tests and Review Ongoing


back to the comparison between f/1.8 and f/2.8 at 135mm

my initial reaction is that the amt of bground blur / separation is affected far more by subject distance (and subject to background distance) than going from f/1.8 to f/2.8 - don't get me wrong - it's noticeable if you're paying attention to that, but it's less than i expected.

it will likely come down to a difference between the quality of OOF rendering (more than the amount of blur) between the Batis @ f/2.8 and the Sigma @ f/2.8 (or f/1.8)

i'm a bit surprised b/c when i compared the 85GM @ f/1.7 vs the 100STF @ f/2.8(T5.6) the 100STF had a lot more structure to its OOF areas, much more than what I'm seeing in the Sigma 135 @ f/2.8 - it was really the 100STF that has given me quite a bit of pause about the f/2.8 of the Batis. But now, having seen the Sigma, even though @ f/1.8 is dreamy, the f/2.8 is not far behind and really it's the subject distance that makes a bigger difference.

but i'm still concerned about the Batis rendering and potential for swirl - i'll post the sigma vs batis Saturday (batis should arrive tomorrow afternoon). bottom line so far - this sigma (if you can handle the size/weight) is absolutely fantastic.

as far as calculated bground blur between 85 / 100 / 135 at various apertures:
1st is 'head & shoulders' subject distance, 2nd is 'full body height' subj distance
http://www.ecarlino.net/share/sig135b/blur2.JPG



May 11, 2017 at 02:46 PM
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p.14 #10 · p.14 #10 · Sigma 135mm F1.8 Tests and Review Ongoing


last compare today of Sigma between 1.8 & 2.8
my daughter came home from school and wasn't feeling well, but i had her stand in the driveway for 1 minute so i could grab 2 shots.
the background blur difference is noticeable but f/2.8 is sufficient for me on this one.

this was my first time shooting a 'live' subject w/ the sigma and AF-S; i'm going to have to experiment with AF-C b/c i missed a few shots b/c of slight movement after AF locked. with this little DoF, that's going to be an issue and even though there still only a slim chance i'd keep the sigma over the batis, i need to be sure on the AF via the MC-11 is 80% equal to native FE lenses.

http://www.ecarlino.net/share/sig135c/DSC01146_1.8_100_1-1250%20s_135%20mm.jpg

http://www.ecarlino.net/share/sig135c/DSC01147_2.8_100_1-640%20s_135%20mm.jpg




May 11, 2017 at 03:51 PM
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p.14 #11 · p.14 #11 · Sigma 135mm F1.8 Tests and Review Ongoing


This is very helpful. Agree that the 2.8 looks pretty good.

What is the approximate distance from your subject to the background on the left? On the right?



May 11, 2017 at 04:29 PM
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p.14 #12 · p.14 #12 · Sigma 135mm F1.8 Tests and Review Ongoing


HCEHCE wrote:
What is the approximate distance from your subject to the background on the left? On the right?


probably 25 ft and 100 ft



May 12, 2017 at 12:34 AM
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p.14 #13 · p.14 #13 · Sigma 135mm F1.8 Tests and Review Ongoing


I sometimes subscribe to the well known west coast guy with a subscription site that some hate..

he's done some interesting comparisons of the Sigma 1.8/135 and the APO Sonnar 2/135. I'm not going to copy his comments since they are copyright, but a few interesting observations by way of conversation should be OK.

Some unsurprising things first: at infinity or long distances the Sigma is as good or better in terms of both apochrmaticness and sharpness and contrast.

It does however have much more focus breathing. He estimates it's a 140mm lens at infinity, and 130 or bit less at MFD.

But the interesting thing about it is the tests at close distance; magnification ranges around 1:5 or so.

At these distances, in some conditions the APO-Sonnar has noticeable better contrast until f5, and in other conditions right until f9 when diffraction hits them both. The Sigma, though, has marginally better LoCA correction at f2 (but worse stopped down a little bit). But his samples seem to indicate that if you want a 135 for close up images (And I've used my APO-SOnnar mainly for wide aperture botanical images) you are noticeable better off with the APO-SOnnar.

Of course for landscape, and portrait, or runway, the Sigma would as good or better.




May 12, 2017 at 01:15 AM
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p.14 #14 · p.14 #14 · Sigma 135mm F1.8 Tests and Review Ongoing


How does the Sigma 135 f1.8 work with Metabones IV? Any one test this?


May 16, 2017 at 11:03 PM
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p.14 #15 · p.14 #15 · Sigma 135mm F1.8 Tests and Review Ongoing


Yesterday update of mc11 does improve autofocus on 135 f1,8, even if not mentioned... Read on dpreview.


May 18, 2017 at 04:57 AM
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p.14 #16 · p.14 #16 · Sigma 135mm F1.8 Tests and Review Ongoing


Yes link please is there a new firmware update


May 18, 2017 at 06:32 AM
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p.14 #17 · p.14 #17 · Sigma 135mm F1.8 Tests and Review Ongoing


I do not know about any links but I plugged my MC-11 into the computer last night and it went from version 1.04 to 1.05. I have not tested the autofocus of the 85 or 135 yet. I updated two mc-11's....


May 18, 2017 at 08:15 AM
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a2rob wrote:
I do not know about any links but I plugged my MC-11 into the computer last night and it went from version 1.04 to 1.05. I have not tested the autofocus of the 85 or 135 yet. I updated two mc-11's....


Firmware Update | SIGMA Optimization Pro
[ MOUNT CONVERTER MC-11 | CANON EF - E ]

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Firmware Version 1.05

It has become compatible with the 24-105mm F4 DG OS HSM | Art(Firmware Version 1.02) lens.
It has become compatible with the 17-70mm F2.8-4 DC MACRO OS HSM | Contemporary(Firmware Version 1.03) lens.
It has become compatible with the 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 DC MACRO OS HSM | Contemporary(Firmware Version 1.02) lens.
It has become compatible with the 18-300mm F3.5-6.3 DC MACRO OS HSM | Contemporary(Firmware Version 1.01) lens.
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Firmware Version 1.04

It has become compatible with the 135mm F1.8 DG HSM | Art and the 100-400mm F5-6.3 DG OS HSM | Contemporary lenses.
It has become compatible with the Cine Lenses;
 ・SIGMA 20mm T1.5 FF (EF), 24mm T1.5 FF (EF), 35mm T1.5 FF (EF), 50mm T1.5 FF (EF), 85mm T1.5 FF (EF) from FF High Speed Prime Line.
 ・24-35mm T2.2 FF (EF) from FF Zoom Line.
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Firmware Version 1.03

It has become compatible with the SIGMA 18-35mm T2 EF mount and the 50-100mm T2 EF mount Cine lenses from High Speed Zoom Line.
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Firmware Version 1.02



May 18, 2017 at 08:21 AM
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p.14 #19 · p.14 #19 · Sigma 135mm F1.8 Tests and Review Ongoing


Well I'm going to go plug it all in now and see what happens. I'm currently 1.04


May 19, 2017 at 12:05 PM
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p.14 #20 · p.14 #20 · Sigma 135mm F1.8 Tests and Review Ongoing


Thank you Guy.



May 19, 2017 at 01:37 PM
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