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In the end is your CV 15mm E mount as consistent across the frame as the Sony 12-24? I would love to see a small 15mm lens that is as consistent across the field as the Loxia 25mm or even the Voigt 21mm Nokton 1.4.

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mark1958 wroteI have the Sony 12-24 and received my E mount CV 15 yesterday and also was a bit surprised to see that the Sony did a bit better especially at the corners and edges compared to the CV 15. I also have the M mount CV 15 and will compare it to the E mount. However, I just read your comment about the image IQ being similar between the two lenses. Oh well should have read that before ordering.

Fred Miranda wroteThis was my favorite 15mm prime for many years starting with the original 36MP A7R.
However with the latest high MP sensors, mid-field and corners are no longer keeping up with the center area even at smaller apertures. The Sony 12-24/4 did already noticeably better than the CV 15 but the new Sigma 14-24/2.8 @15mm is even better than the Sony across the field without compromising color. Still love the compactness, flare resistance and sunstars from the CV 15 though. Hopefully we will get a newer version from Voigtlander or Zeiss.
Hi Mark,
At center the CV 15/4.5 III is still excellent but outside the center area, when compared to the Sony 12-24 and especially Sigma 14-24 (@15mm), it can't keep up in terms of resolution + contrast. However, it has other strengths like size, sunstar, color rendering and flare resistance making it still a great choice.

Guy Mancuso had a 15/4.5 III M-mount that was amazing everywhere in the frame. It took me so many copies of the E-mount to get one that matched it. So yes, the E-mount version does not offer any IQ advantage compared to the M-mount and that was a surprise to me as well.


We do not have a small 14-15mm prime that is as good as the Loxia across the field. The CV 15/4.5 is your best bet for a small lens and the two zooms the best in terms of IQ. (Sigma and Sony)

Apr 03, 2020 at 10:56 AM
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p.79 #2Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
My CV 15mm III in the M mount is close to the E mount. There is a little more color fringing at the edges and corners. Will likely stick with the CV 15mm E for travel, keep the Sony 12-24 and sell the M mount.


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mark1958 wroteFred
In the end is your CV 15mm E mount as consistent across the frame as the Sony 12-24? I would love to see a small 15mm lens that is as consistent across the field as the Loxia 25mm or even the Voigt 21mm Nokton 1.4.

Fred Miranda wrote
mark1958 wroteI have the Sony 12-24 and received my E mount CV 15 yesterday and also was a bit surprised to see that the Sony did a bit better especially at the corners and edges compared to the CV 15. I also have the M mount CV 15 and will compare it to the E mount. However, I just read your comment about the image IQ being similar between the two lenses. Oh well should have read that before ordering.

Fred Miranda wroteThis was my favorite 15mm prime for many years starting with the original 36MP A7R.
However with the latest high MP sensors, mid-field and corners are no longer keeping up with the center area even at smaller apertures. The Sony 12-24/4 did already noticeably better than the CV 15 but the new Sigma 14-24/2.8 @15mm is even better than the Sony across the field without compromising color. Still love the compactness, flare resistance and sunstars from the CV 15 though. Hopefully we will get a newer version from Voigtlander or Zeiss.
Hi Mark,
At center the CV 15/4.5 III is still excellent but outside the center area, when compared to the Sony 12-24 and especially Sigma 14-24 (@15mm), it can't keep up in terms of resolution + contrast. However, it has other strengths like size, sunstar, color rendering and flare resistance making it still a great choice.

Guy Mancuso had a 15/4.5 III M-mount that was amazing everywhere in the frame. It took me so many copies of the E-mount to get one that matched it. So yes, the E-mount version does not offer any IQ advantage compared to the M-mount and that was a surprise to me as well.
We do not have a small 14-15mm prime that is as good as the Loxia across the field. The CV 15/4.5 is your best bet for a small lens and the two zooms the best in terms of IQ. (Sigma and Sony)



Apr 03, 2020 at 06:24 PM
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p.79 #3Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
mark1958 wrote:
My CV 15mm III in the M mount is close to the E mount. There is a little more color fringing at the edges and corners. Will likely stick with the CV 15mm E for travel, keep the Sony 12-24 and sell the M mount.

Fred Miranda wrote
mark1958 wroteFred
In the end is your CV 15mm E mount as consistent across the frame as the Sony 12-24? I would love to see a small 15mm lens that is as consistent across the field as the Loxia 25mm or even the Voigt 21mm Nokton 1.4.

Fred Miranda wrote
mark1958 wroteI have the Sony 12-24 and received my E mount CV 15 yesterday and also was a bit surprised to see that the Sony did a bit better especially at the corners and edges compared to the CV 15. I also have the M mount CV 15 and will compare it to the E mount. However, I just read your comment about the image IQ being similar between the two lenses. Oh well should have read that before ordering.

Fred Miranda wroteThis was my favorite 15mm prime for many years starting with the original 36MP A7R.
However with the latest high MP sensors, mid-field and corners are no longer keeping up with the center area even at smaller apertures. The Sony 12-24/4 did already noticeably better than the CV 15 but the new Sigma 14-24/2.8 @15mm is even better than the Sony across the field without compromising color. Still love the compactness, flare resistance and sunstars from the CV 15 though. Hopefully we will get a newer version from Voigtlander or Zeiss.
Hi Mark,
At center the CV 15/4.5 III is still excellent but outside the center area, when compared to the Sony 12-24 and especially Sigma 14-24 (@15mm), it can't keep up in terms of resolution + contrast. However, it has other strengths like size, sunstar, color rendering and flare resistance making it still a great choice.

Guy Mancuso had a 15/4.5 III M-mount that was amazing everywhere in the frame. It took me so many copies of the E-mount to get one that matched it. So yes, the E-mount version does not offer any IQ advantage compared to the M-mount and that was a surprise to me as well.
We do not have a small 14-15mm prime that is as good as the Loxia across the field. The CV 15/4.5 is your best bet for a small lens and the two zooms the best in terms of IQ. (Sigma and Sony)


That's because the E-mount has an automated Lateral CA built-in profile being applied to the RAW file. If you correct the M-version RAW file, it will perform exact the same since they have identical optical design and therefore the same level of color aberration correction.
Apr 03, 2020 at 07:07 PM
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p.79 #4Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
OK thanks.. M

Fred Miranda wrote:
mark1958 wroteMy CV 15mm III in the M mount is close to the E mount. There is a little more color fringing at the edges and corners. Will likely stick with the CV 15mm E for travel, keep the Sony 12-24 and sell the M mount.

Fred Miranda wrote
mark1958 wroteFred
In the end is your CV 15mm E mount as consistent across the frame as the Sony 12-24? I would love to see a small 15mm lens that is as consistent across the field as the Loxia 25mm or even the Voigt 21mm Nokton 1.4.

Fred Miranda wrote
mark1958 wroteI have the Sony 12-24 and received my E mount CV 15 yesterday and also was a bit surprised to see that the Sony did a bit better especially at the corners and edges compared to the CV 15. I also have the M mount CV 15 and will compare it to the E mount. However, I just read your comment about the image IQ being similar between the two lenses. Oh well should have read that before ordering.
Hi Mark,
At center the CV 15/4.5 III is still excellent but outside the center area, when compared to the Sony 12-24 and especially Sigma 14-24 (@15mm), it can't keep up in terms of resolution + contrast. However, it has other strengths like size, sunstar, color rendering and flare resistance making it still a great choice.

Guy Mancuso had a 15/4.5 III M-mount that was amazing everywhere in the frame. It took me so many copies of the E-mount to get one that matched it. So yes, the E-mount version does not offer any IQ advantage compared to the M-mount and that was a surprise to me as well.
We do not have a small 14-15mm prime that is as good as the Loxia across the field. The CV 15/4.5 is your best bet for a small lens and the two zooms the best in terms of IQ. (Sigma and Sony)
That's because the E-mount has an automated Lateral CA built-in profile being applied to the RAW file. If you correct the M-version RAW file, it will perform exact the same since they have identical optical design and therefore the same level of color aberration correction


Apr 03, 2020 at 10:45 PM
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p.79 #5Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
Hey, I understand this is a Sony E mount forum, but does anyone have any experience of this lens with APS-C? I'm a Fuji user but even any results from an A6xxx series camera would be appreciated as it seems this lenses main fault is the extreme corners, but surely using APS-C would minimise this.

Unfortunately I can't seem to find anything else online, but this lens looks perfect for my manual Landscape kit (Contax 28 2.8, 85 2.8) as my wide option. Thanks!
Apr 15, 2020 at 02:56 PM
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p.79 #6Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
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Apr 18, 2020 at 10:32 AM
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p.79 #7Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
neosaurus_ wrote:
Hey, I understand this is a Sony E mount forum, but does anyone have any experience of this lens with APS-C? I'm a Fuji user but even any results from an A6xxx series camera would be appreciated as it seems this lenses main fault is the extreme corners, but surely using APS-C would minimise this.

Unfortunately I can't seem to find anything else online, but this lens looks perfect for my manual Landscape kit (Contax 28 2.8, 85 2.8) as my wide option. Thanks!



Hello,

Voigtlander Heliar III E 15/4.5 is great on Sony A6500 even wide open and perfect stopped down to f8 across the APS-C frame.The same should apply to Fuji crop cameras,I suppose.

If you like Zeiss Distagon 28/2.8 and Sonnar 85.2.8 for Contax,you will be more than satisfied with it's overall IQ.

The gap between 15mm and 28mm on APS-C could be perceived as significant though.In such case small,yet sturdy Voigtlander Color-Skopar 21/3,5 E/EF/AIS,or Olympus OM Zuiko 21/2,or Olympus OM Zuiko 21/3.5 or Nikkor AI 21/4,or Nikkor AI 21/3.5,or Nikkor 20/2.8 AIS,or Mamiya Sekor 21/4 in Rollei QBM mount could fill in the gap quite well on APS-C.

There are also many other vintage 19-21 lenses that would do the job,yet they are bigger and heavier.
Apr 18, 2020 at 10:54 AM
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p.79 #8Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
neosaurus_ wrote:
Hey, I understand this is a Sony E mount forum, but does anyone have any experience of this lens with APS-C? I'm a Fuji user but even any results from an A6xxx series camera would be appreciated as it seems this lenses main fault is the extreme corners, but surely using APS-C would minimise this.

Unfortunately I can't seem to find anything else online, but this lens looks perfect for my manual Landscape kit (Contax 28 2.8, 85 2.8) as my wide option. Thanks!


Seems like the Samyang 12/2 or the Sigma 16/1.4 would be perhaps better suited. Not that the CV15 wouldn't be good, but those lenses are cheaper and faster.
Apr 18, 2020 at 01:03 PM
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p.79 #9Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
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neosaurus_ wroteHey, I understand this is a Sony E mount forum, but does anyone have any experience of this lens with APS-C? I'm a Fuji user but even any results from an A6xxx series camera would be appreciated as it seems this lenses main fault is the extreme corners, but surely using APS-C would minimise this.

Unfortunately I can't seem to find anything else online, but this lens looks perfect for my manual Landscape kit (Contax 28 2.8, 85 2.8) as my wide option. Thanks!
Seems like the Samyang 12/2 or the Sigma 16/1.4 would be perhaps better suited. Not that the CV15 wouldn't be good, but those lenses are cheaper and faster.


My Sony 6500 experience with Samyang 12/2 is fine,yet the flare,even from the hidden and not centrally positioned sources of light was a bit deterring.

Sigma 16/1.4 is very good.The only relative drawbacks are: it"s extensive barrel distortion and pronounced,blue LCA.Besides,is it"s not that wide.


Apr 18, 2020 at 01:08 PM
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Peire wrote:
grahamgibson wrote
neosaurus_ wroteHey, I understand this is a Sony E mount forum, but does anyone have any experience of this lens with APS-C? I'm a Fuji user but even any results from an A6xxx series camera would be appreciated as it seems this lenses main fault is the extreme corners, but surely using APS-C would minimise this.

Unfortunately I can't seem to find anything else online, but this lens looks perfect for my manual Landscape kit (Contax 28 2.8, 85 2.8) as my wide option. Thanks!
Seems like the Samyang 12/2 or the Sigma 16/1.4 would be perhaps better suited. Not that the CV15 wouldn't be good, but those lenses are cheaper and faster.
My Sony 6500 experience with Samyang 12/2 is fine,yet the flare,even from the hidden and not centrally positioned sources of light was a bit deterring.

Sigma 16/1.4 is very good.The only relative drawbacks are: it"s extensive barrel distortion and pronounced,blue LCA.Besides,is it"s not that wide.




Hey thanks for the responses. I understand the Samyang and Fuji native offerings may be better and cheaper, but here in the UK I can get a 15mm 4.5 for £430, where the Fuji 16 2.8 which I don't think is as sharp at landscape apertures is roughly 250. I really enjoy the process and the tactility of fully manual lenses, especially for focussing, so I'm willing to pay a bit more for a good experience.

Speaking of actually, I've been abit iffy with the 28mm 2.8 and was considering replacing it with the voigtlander 28mm + a pcx filter. 85mm is great though, can't fault that.

I am considering getting the Samyang 12mm as well to complement the 15mm, as I used the Samyang when with SONY APS-C and enjoyed it's results for astro, mostly
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p.79 #11Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
So, I invest in real estate, and also develop homes for sale. I have a new on due to be listed for sale tomorrow. The guy who went out to take the pictures for the listing did a horrible job. Totally unusable.

I am not a real estate photographer, and don't want to be. In fact I don't want to ever be involved in taking pictures for someone else for money. It is a hobby.

In this case I was forced to go out and do it in order to keep my schedule. Turns out the CV 15 was my most used lens. It seemed to handle the task well. Easy to use, just set the aperture to f11, focus on infinity, a set a good exposure.

Not the best real estate pictures I have seen, but they will get the property listed for now.




Apr 23, 2020 at 06:18 PM
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Apr 25, 2020 at 12:50 AM
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p.79 #13Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount


neosaurus_ wrote:
Peire wrote
grahamgibson wrote
neosaurus_ wroteHey, I understand this is a Sony E mount forum, but does anyone have any experience of this lens with APS-C? I'm a Fuji user but even any results from an A6xxx series camera would be appreciated as it seems this lenses main fault is the extreme corners, but surely using APS-C would minimise this.

Unfortunately I can't seem to find anything else online, but this lens looks perfect for my manual Landscape kit (Contax 28 2.8, 85 2.8) as my wide option. Thanks!
Seems like the Samyang 12/2 or the Sigma 16/1.4 would be perhaps better suited. Not that the CV15 wouldn't be good, but those lenses are cheaper and faster.
My Sony 6500 experience with Samyang 12/2 is fine,yet the flare,even from the hidden and not centrally positioned sources of light was a bit deterring.

Sigma 16/1.4 is very good.The only relative drawbacks are: it"s extensive barrel distortion and pronounced,blue LCA.Besides,is it"s not that wide.
Hey thanks for the responses. I understand the Samyang and Fuji native offerings may be better and cheaper, but here in the UK I can get a 15mm 4.5 for £430, where the Fuji 16 2.8 which I don't think is as sharp at landscape apertures is roughly 250. I really enjoy the process and the tactility of fully manual lenses, especially for focussing, so I'm willing to pay a bit more for a good experience.

Speaking of actually, I've been abit iffy with the 28mm 2.8 and was considering replacing it with the voigtlander 28mm + a pcx filter.
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If you want REALLY good iq on a Fuji, get the 14mm, absolutely ideal for architectural stuff. I've had V1 0f the Voigtlander since it came out a LONG time ago and have thought about swopping it for the VIII for better results, but the 14 Fuji is so good I can't see myself spending the money. Wider than that I have the 9mm Laowa.

Gerry
Apr 25, 2020 at 05:14 AM
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p.79 #14Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
First try with CV15 for MW... a lot of issues, shot during lockdown (not allowed to leave the municipality - high light pollution), a bolt got loose on the tracker - so it didn`t work and the remote trigger went bananas (not a big issue since the tracker didn`t work )

But I think this could work just fine once these issues get resolved and I remove the petals so I can use the light pollution filter...

Lockdown Milkyway #1 ...

Cheers, A.
May 10, 2020 at 01:22 AM
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p.79 #15Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
I have recently discovered another XiV'th Century little gothic village church with medieval paintings.The church is surrounded by a defensive wall with a tower above the entrance. The wall was a mean of defence for local inhabitants during the Hussite wars.

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Jul 24, 2020 at 10:33 AM
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p.79 #16Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
Peire wrote:
I have recently discovered another XiV'th Century little gothic village church with medieval paintings.The church is surrounded by a defensive wall with a tower above the entrance. The wall was a mean of defence for local inhabitants during the Hussite wars.



The artwork in that church seems very unusual. What is the name of the village? Thanks.

Jul 25, 2020 at 06:55 PM
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p.79 #17Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
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Peire wroteI have recently discovered another XiV'th Century little gothic village church with medieval paintings.The church is surrounded by a defensive wall with a tower above the entrance. The wall was a mean of defence for local inhabitants during the Hussite wars.
The artwork in that church seems very unusual. What is the name of the village? Thanks.



Lubiechowa in Lower Silesia (South-Western Poland).It is difficult to get into the church as it's opened once a week.You may ask local people where to find a lady who's keeping the keys.
Jul 26, 2020 at 01:58 AM
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Thanks. I'm a big fan of old churches. Unfortunately I've never spent any time in Poland, Romania, or Bulgaria with their unique styles.
Lacking any faith, personally, I have what my wife considers a somewhat perverse fascination with religious architecture and art.
I find the ceiling of the church in your photos particularly interesting. The panels look like the pieces of a jigsaw puzzle that was incorrectly assembled. Also, although there a lot of references to this church as Gothic, the only gothic feature I recognize is the vaulting in the apse. Does the tower lie above the apse or at the other end?
Anyways, I always look forward to seeing the photos you share here.
Jul 27, 2020 at 12:32 PM
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p.79 #19Official: Voigtlander 15mm f/4.5 III E-mount
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Thanks. I'm a big fan of old churches. Unfortunately I've never spent any time in Poland, Romania, or Bulgaria with their unique styles.
Lacking any faith, personally, I have what my wife considers a somewhat perverse fascination with religious architecture and art.
I find the ceiling of the church in your photos particularly interesting. The panels look like the pieces of a jigsaw puzzle that was incorrectly assembled. Also, although there a lot of references to this church as Gothic, the only gothic feature I recognize is the vaulting in the apse. Does the tower lie above the apse or
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Thank you for your kind words. I like old churches mainly because they are the product of good old European culture that shaped me. Moreover, in many of these little churches time has stopped and when you cross their door sill, you can feel with a little imagination as in the Middle Ages.One can touch,hear and see those passed away people almost.

The nave of the church, which is its oldest part, is in fact Romanesque, as can be seen from the Romanesque arches on the windows and the small, simple Romanesque portal on the south side. The gothicization of the church took place several dozen years after the nave was erected, when a gothic presbitery was added, in the form of an apse, with a typical gothic ceiling ribbing and gothic-style windows. A quadrangular, also gothic tower rises above the west side of the nave.
Jul 28, 2020 at 02:24 AM
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