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With today's high megapixel sensors, I'm not sure this is true anymore. Used to be that around f/8-f/11 there were only minor resolution differences between lenses except for rendering and aberration control (zooms or primes). That was the 10-20MP era.
Now, with 40-50MP+ and future 70-100MP+ sensors differences between lenses are very apparent even at f/8.

For landscape photographers, the most used apertures are f/8 or smaller, making the new 24-70GM excellent across the entire frame including extreme edges. However, I would not hesitate shooting a wider apertures.

My go to set-up is: Loxia 21/2.8, RX1RII (32mm) and Loxia 50/2 but whenever
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Fred:

Would you say it's as sharp as the Canon lens for landscapes? That lens is crazy sharp.

Thanks,
Chris



Apr 06, 2016 at 10:07 AM
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p.20 #2 · Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review


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Just making sure we have a good copy before our returns run out. This thing needs to sing before I put a client gig on the line




Absolutely, with a zoom that's often tougher than it looks, these things can be at best schizophrenic at best in real world use, I've still no real idea as to any potential flare issues with this thing. Thanks for the tests BTW, every little thing helps!!!



Apr 06, 2016 at 10:21 AM
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5'8" when I jump. Lol

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no wonder you were a little short. And yes pun intended.




Apr 06, 2016 at 10:23 AM
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I may have found a bug. On 12.5 magnification at 24mm sometimes it won't hold and goes back to full frame viewing . Happened at 70 too.

Now this is in manual focus mode and I need to check my camera I have C1 to magnify but the lens also is set to that. Maybe the lens focus hold does not like it set to magnify instead. Not sure have to play around . But makes me wonder what that firmware update was about. Anyone run into this please report. I'm going to try a few settings and see if it's some kind of electronic crosstalk or something. Not panic mode either. I'm keeping the lens



Apr 06, 2016 at 10:28 AM
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p.20 #5 · Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review


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I'm sorry I'm a little pissy this morning too. My damn refund has not hit my paypal account and my GM 85 is in my dealers hand yesterday ready to ship. Now I have to ask my wife if I can borrow money out our checking account. That's going to cost me a 1200 dollar freaking purse. Lol

Damnit


Rule #1: Never borrow money from your wife! My advice is to use a loan shark.



Apr 06, 2016 at 10:28 AM
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p.20 #6 · Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review


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Rule #1: Never borrow money from your wife! My advice is to use a loan shark.


Exactly Fred.

Its like signing your death warrant



Apr 06, 2016 at 10:33 AM
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p.20 #7 · Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review


Schlotkins wrote:
Fred:

Would you say it's as sharp as the Canon lens for landscapes? That lens is crazy sharp.

Thanks,
Chris


I had a very good copy of the Canon and it was excellent at the wider range on the 5D Mark III. (~20MP)
I never tested it on the 5DSR so I'm not sure if the IQ held at higher frequencies. I can tell for sure that the mid-field and edges at 70mm look better on the Sony.



Apr 06, 2016 at 10:34 AM
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p.20 #8 · Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review


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Exactly Fred.

Its like signing your death warrant


BTW: My 85/1.4 GM shipped today. I will be in Mammoth Lakes until Saturday. (Had to extend my trip in order to get some clouds on this sky!)



Apr 06, 2016 at 10:35 AM
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I may have found a bug. On 12.5 magnification at 24mm sometimes it won't hold and goes back to full frame viewing . Happened at 70 too.

Now this is in manual focus mode and I need to check my camera I have C1 to magnify but the lens also is set to that. Maybe the lens focus hold does not like it set to magnify instead. Not sure have to play around . But makes me wonder what that firmware update was about. Anyone run into this please report. I'm going to try a few settings and see if
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YES....... Had that too the other day, but I'm so inept at testing thought I must have tapped the shutter release or something!!! Good catch.



Apr 06, 2016 at 10:41 AM
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p.20 #10 · Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review


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BTW: My 85/1.4 GM shipped today. I will be in Mammoth Lakes until Saturday. (Had to extend my trip in order to get some clouds on this sky!)


Got lucky it cost me a cup of coffee. Shipping today as well. Ill have mine on Friday



Apr 06, 2016 at 10:48 AM
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Chris, I had the exact same experience with my 24-70mm GM - everything was extremely sharp except the extreme right edge of the frame. I shot hundreds of frames in many different conditions, compared it to other lenses at the same focal lengths and apertures as well, and kept seeing the issue pop up, although it was minor. Still, mine is going back to B&H today, sadly.


Apr 06, 2016 at 10:53 AM
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Okay QUICKLY looking at the wall test. This is maybe better in the corners than what I thought. 28mm maybe the best in the corners. 70mm maybe the weak spot on center which does not make sense since they where so good on the casual shots and i had a little trouble focusing on the wall. Reason I say that F4 is a big difference on center, so I may have missed my focus. But good news on all focal lengths the corners are really good on both sides. So looks like I have a nicely centers copy. Centrally its very very good for a zoom. Honestly this may rival some primes

Now this will take me some to get this up on the forum as I am going to pit the Sigma 24-35 up against it. But so far looks really good folks. My initial thoughts on quality of file certainly look to be holding true



Apr 06, 2016 at 10:55 AM
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p.20 #13 · Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review


Chris , Peter you want me to load my raws up. I have time to do that now. It will be big but gives you some ideas


Apr 06, 2016 at 10:57 AM
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p.20 #14 · Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review


petermendelson wrote:
Chris, I had the exact same experience with my 24-70mm GM - everything was extremely sharp except the extreme right edge of the frame. I shot hundreds of frames in many different conditions, compared it to other lenses at the same focal lengths and apertures as well, and kept seeing the issue pop up, although it was minor. Still, mine is going back to B&H today, sadly.


I'm with you Peter. Mine looks so nice right across the frame @f/2.8 (I'm shocked how good) apart from that last right-side 10% (which is still pretty darn good though).

I think I'll keep mine until I see stock at B&H, hopefully they'll get some within a week or two....... It'll give me a chance to use it on a few of my OOF artsy gigs that are coming up. Lol ~Chris



Apr 06, 2016 at 11:00 AM
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p.20 #15 · Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review


GMPhotography wrote:
Chris , Peter you want me to load my raws up. I have time to do that now. It will be big but gives you some ideas


Perfect, thank you sir! Can you dropbox? I can return one to you showing my issue on that right 10%.

My email: studio at chrisgibbs dot com



Apr 06, 2016 at 11:02 AM
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p.20 #16 · Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review


Im loading it now on yousendit. 1.5 gb so go get lunch after hitting download. Post link in a few

Edited on Apr 06, 2016 at 11:11 AM · View previous versions



Apr 06, 2016 at 11:10 AM
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p.20 #17 · Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review


Peter sent me a file also that I need to look at as well. Just running behind today


Apr 06, 2016 at 11:10 AM
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https://www.yousendit.com/download/ZWJWZ28vYWJRR2VKUmNUQw


Apr 06, 2016 at 11:13 AM
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p.20 #19 · Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review


GMPhotography wrote:
I may have found a bug. On 12.5 magnification at 24mm sometimes it won't hold and goes back to full frame viewing . Happened at 70 too.

Now this is in manual focus mode and I need to check my camera I have C1 to magnify but the lens also is set to that. Maybe the lens focus hold does not like it set to magnify instead. Not sure have to play around . But makes me wonder what that firmware update was about. Anyone run into this please report. I'm going to try a few settings and see if
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OT: have you ever figured out a way to get the magnification to start at 12.5 instead of having to go through 5x first?



Apr 06, 2016 at 11:14 AM
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p.20 #20 · Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review


ecarlino wrote:
OT: have you ever figured out a way to get the magnification to start at 12.5 instead of having to go through 5x first?


Not yet but I would love that



Apr 06, 2016 at 11:17 AM
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