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Archive 2016Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
p.12 #1Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
Guy, do share the hood you go with!
this will be my first auto focus sony kit lens (or equivalent),
since I did not go that route on the Nex or A7RII
this will be my first auto focus sony kit lens (or equivalent),
since I did not go that route on the Nex or A7RII
Apr 03, 2016 at 10:20 AM
p.12 #2Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
I usually buy on eBay these metal screw in hoods. Like this for every lens i have
say for instance this would be a nice 72mm filter hood for like a 85mm lens
http://www.ebay.com/itm/72mm-Metal-Lens-Hood-Screw-in-for-Digital-Camera-Canon-Nikon-standard-lenses-/270955851777?hash=item3f163a3001:m:mcD7SSLKGbV3PaeeyBHrEaQ
In the case of 82mm and this wide you can find them but sometimes i will buy very cheap UV filters , take the glass out and add whatever i need. On the Sigma 24-35 I used 2 filter rings. Its not perfect but far better than these silly petal hoods that really don't do much anyway. My theory God gave me a great left hand use it to shade your lens.
The metal are great to protect the front element and I don't use lens caps either in front. In all my years i never scratched a front element.
Edited on Apr 03, 2016 at 10:32 AM · View previous versions
say for instance this would be a nice 72mm filter hood for like a 85mm lens
http://www.ebay.com/itm/72mm-Metal-Lens-Hood-Screw-in-for-Digital-Camera-Canon-Nikon-standard-lenses-/270955851777?hash=item3f163a3001:m:mcD7SSLKGbV3PaeeyBHrEaQ
In the case of 82mm and this wide you can find them but sometimes i will buy very cheap UV filters , take the glass out and add whatever i need. On the Sigma 24-35 I used 2 filter rings. Its not perfect but far better than these silly petal hoods that really don't do much anyway. My theory God gave me a great left hand use it to shade your lens.
The metal are great to protect the front element and I don't use lens caps either in front. In all my years i never scratched a front element.
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Apr 03, 2016 at 10:29 AM
p.12 #3Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
GMPhotography wrote:
Ugly hoods both of them. Lol
Mine won't make it out of the box
And pretty much useless too, if we're being objective.
Ugly hoods both of them. Lol
Mine won't make it out of the box
And pretty much useless too, if we're being objective.
Apr 03, 2016 at 10:31 AM
p.12 #4Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
chrisgibbs wrote:
Mine won't make it out of the boxAnd pretty much useless too, if we're being objective.
Agree look at the side its barely covering the glass
GMPhotography wrote
Ugly hoods both of them. LolMine won't make it out of the box
Agree look at the side its barely covering the glass
Apr 03, 2016 at 10:33 AM
p.12 #5Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
swldstn wrote:
For those wanting to see a size comparison between the Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II and the Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM here it is. The Canon has the Metabones IV adapter on it. The filters are a different thickness so to me these are almost identical in size (a few millimeters different) and weight (30-40 grams different).
You can see they rotate in different directions for the zoom. The Sony is the same as the FE 16-35 and FE 70-200.
Sorry for the very slow shutter speed. Done hand held,
I'd love to see those two focussed at around 6 feet @ f/2.8, but with some OOF trees in the background. See what improvements (if any) the Sony has on that harsh OOF blur and specular highlights in amongst those branches & leaves.
Edited on Apr 03, 2016 at 10:36 AM · View previous versions
For those wanting to see a size comparison between the Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II and the Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM here it is. The Canon has the Metabones IV adapter on it. The filters are a different thickness so to me these are almost identical in size (a few millimeters different) and weight (30-40 grams different).
You can see they rotate in different directions for the zoom. The Sony is the same as the FE 16-35 and FE 70-200.
Sorry for the very slow shutter speed. Done hand held,
I'd love to see those two focussed at around 6 feet @ f/2.8, but with some OOF trees in the background. See what improvements (if any) the Sony has on that harsh OOF blur and specular highlights in amongst those branches & leaves.
Edited on Apr 03, 2016 at 10:36 AM · View previous versions
Apr 03, 2016 at 10:35 AM
p.12 #6Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
Why I like the metal hoods they are more for protection of the front element. I have like 40 of these metal hoods I have collected over the years. The 82mm is the hard one because of the wide angle so than I just use filter rings and heck you can still put a cap on that if you want. Honestly nothing slower than dealing with front lens caps and reversed hoods when you want to get a shot from your bag quickly.
Apr 03, 2016 at 10:36 AM
p.12 #7Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
GMPhotography wrote:
Why I like the metal hoods they are more for protection of the front element. I have like 40 of these metal hoods I have collected over the years. The 82mm is the hard one because of the wide angle so than I just use filter rings and heck you can still put a cap on that if you want. Honestly nothing slower than dealing with front lens caps and reversed hoods when you want to get a shot from your bag quickly.
Yes, the old AIS Nikkor's and the old 500CM Zeiss glass came with great metal hoods. Especially liked that bayonet design on the old Blad Zeiss glass, great for hoods and especially for filters. And, while we're reminiscing, that Blad QR neck-strap lug thingy, brilliant design.
Why I like the metal hoods they are more for protection of the front element. I have like 40 of these metal hoods I have collected over the years. The 82mm is the hard one because of the wide angle so than I just use filter rings and heck you can still put a cap on that if you want. Honestly nothing slower than dealing with front lens caps and reversed hoods when you want to get a shot from your bag quickly.
Yes, the old AIS Nikkor's and the old 500CM Zeiss glass came with great metal hoods. Especially liked that bayonet design on the old Blad Zeiss glass, great for hoods and especially for filters. And, while we're reminiscing, that Blad QR neck-strap lug thingy, brilliant design.
Apr 03, 2016 at 10:41 AM
p.12 #8Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
Yea I liked the Hassy lug as well. Pretty cool and nice to get off. Today I use a Gordy handstrap with a clip to get it off fast on my Sony sort of like this one. Really like it
http://www.gordyscamerastraps.com/wrist-lug/index.htm
http://www.gordyscamerastraps.com/wrist-lug/index.htm
Apr 03, 2016 at 10:45 AM
p.12 #9Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
That's nice, I've never used a hand strap. I'm becoming more video aware so the neck-strap still has a place as a stabilizer of sorts. Went with the Peak Designs strap (the thinnest one), biggest issue was with the Peak Design QR lugs they don't attach nicely to the Sony split-triangles. But I found these round split-rings at a local fishing store, size 6 in stainless 250lb test, they're just like the old round camera split rings but smaller & stronger and work perfectly with the Peak Design QR set-up.
http://www.ebay.com/bhp/fishing-split-rings
http://www.ebay.com/bhp/fishing-split-rings
Apr 03, 2016 at 11:02 AM
p.12 #10Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
swldstn wrote:
For those wanting to see a size comparison between the Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II and the Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM here it is.
Thanks for the size shots! It got me curious, so I fired up the Camera Size site to compare them to the Nikon as well. I found it most enlightening.
CameraSize - Sony, Canon, Nikon
For those wanting to see a size comparison between the Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II and the Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM here it is.
Thanks for the size shots! It got me curious, so I fired up the Camera Size site to compare them to the Nikon as well. I found it most enlightening.
CameraSize - Sony, Canon, Nikon
Apr 03, 2016 at 11:13 AM
p.12 #11Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
This bokeh is very reminiscent of Minolta had on their best zooms and primes, but better. Its the smoothness from that completely circular aperture blades throughout the range. If you get bored, look at examples from the 28-70 G or even the 70-210/4. That zoom has awfully good bokeh for a zoom. But this GM is better throughout.
GMPhotography wrote:
Suggestion go back and look at the flowers Fred shot. I never seen a zoom have that good of bokeh.
GMPhotography wrote:
Suggestion go back and look at the flowers Fred shot. I never seen a zoom have that good of bokeh.
Apr 03, 2016 at 11:24 AM
p.12 #12Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
I got a feeling that Sigma will melt some faces with price/quality ratio of their upcoming 24-70 Art. Sure, it needs the adapter.
Apr 03, 2016 at 12:26 PM
p.12 #13Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
Should not release during tax time either.
So when are the next crop of these lenses becoming available
GMPhotography wrote:
This thread I can tell already will be heating up some credit cards. Sorry spouses we just report the damage it will cause. Lol
Your all very lucky I'm not talking about Medium Format , I think I'm on a few spouses contract hit list. Lol
So when are the next crop of these lenses becoming available
GMPhotography wrote:
mark1958 wrote
I really wish i would not have read this whole threadYour all very lucky I'm not talking about Medium Format , I think I'm on a few spouses contract hit list. Lol
Apr 03, 2016 at 12:35 PM
p.12 #14Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
I haven't seen a Sigma that has great bokeh. I find it to be on the harsh side. Sigma loves sharp penses, and that really does appeal to a large number of folks. When I had the Sigma 50, I got so frustrated trying to get the colors how I liked. I have already stated I am mostly rubbish at PP, so that may be the cause. But at this point, I find Sigma mostly irrelevant in terms of lens choices. I just don't love what they offer. For many, sure, it'll be an amazing and sharp lens. But I need something that is more than just sharp.
Apr 03, 2016 at 12:35 PM
p.12 #15Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
MJKoski wrote:
I got a feeling that Sigma will melt some faces with price/quality ratio of their upcoming 24-70 Art. Sure, it needs the adapter.
I agree. We need to keep a eye on them. The 24-35 and 35 1.4 are damn good and if this lens does not work out I'll buy them both back. They both tested very well. I'm not married to Sony name plate. Whatever works the best. If they come with a 24-70 all the merrier
I got a feeling that Sigma will melt some faces with price/quality ratio of their upcoming 24-70 Art. Sure, it needs the adapter.
I agree. We need to keep a eye on them. The 24-35 and 35 1.4 are damn good and if this lens does not work out I'll buy them both back. They both tested very well. I'm not married to Sony name plate. Whatever works the best. If they come with a 24-70 all the merrier
Apr 03, 2016 at 12:49 PM
p.12 #16Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
TheEmrys wrote:
I haven't seen a Sigma that has great bokeh. I find it to be on the harsh side. Sigma loves sharp penses, and that really does appeal to a large number of folks. When I had the Sigma 50, I got so frustrated trying to get the colors how I liked. I have already stated I am mostly rubbish at PP, so that may be the cause. But at this point, I find Sigma mostly irrelevant in terms of lens choices. I just don't love what they offer. For many, sure, it'll be an amazing and sharp lens. But I...Show more →
That would be my critism of Sigma lens they test beautifully but they are also very clinical in look. Bokeh was not very nice on the 24-35 but better on the 35 1.4 but still not stellar to me. They are my second choice if this does not work out.
I haven't seen a Sigma that has great bokeh. I find it to be on the harsh side. Sigma loves sharp penses, and that really does appeal to a large number of folks. When I had the Sigma 50, I got so frustrated trying to get the colors how I liked. I have already stated I am mostly rubbish at PP, so that may be the cause. But at this point, I find Sigma mostly irrelevant in terms of lens choices. I just don't love what they offer. For many, sure, it'll be an amazing and sharp lens. But I...Show more →
That would be my critism of Sigma lens they test beautifully but they are also very clinical in look. Bokeh was not very nice on the 24-35 but better on the 35 1.4 but still not stellar to me. They are my second choice if this does not work out.
Apr 03, 2016 at 12:52 PM
p.12 #17Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
TheEmrys wrote:
I haven't seen a Sigma that has great bokeh. I find it to be on the harsh side. Sigma loves sharp penses, and that really does appeal to a large number of folks. When I had the Sigma 50, I got so frustrated trying to get the colors how I liked. I have already stated I am mostly rubbish at PP, so that may be the cause. But at this point, I find Sigma mostly irrelevant in terms of lens choices. I just don't love what they offer. For many, sure, it'll be an amazing and sharp lens. But I...Show more →
You should get a passport color checker and work off that as that may help. I usually WB than I may play with color temp a little to adjust to taste, depending on subject of course. Now when I shot the catalog of clothing a couple weeks ago I kept it dead at the color checker because of the clothing to be accurate of its color. Trust me the offset printer will still screw it up and blame me when the client complains. Welcome to the Offset world. Lol
I haven't seen a Sigma that has great bokeh. I find it to be on the harsh side. Sigma loves sharp penses, and that really does appeal to a large number of folks. When I had the Sigma 50, I got so frustrated trying to get the colors how I liked. I have already stated I am mostly rubbish at PP, so that may be the cause. But at this point, I find Sigma mostly irrelevant in terms of lens choices. I just don't love what they offer. For many, sure, it'll be an amazing and sharp lens. But I...Show more →
You should get a passport color checker and work off that as that may help. I usually WB than I may play with color temp a little to adjust to taste, depending on subject of course. Now when I shot the catalog of clothing a couple weeks ago I kept it dead at the color checker because of the clothing to be accurate of its color. Trust me the offset printer will still screw it up and blame me when the client complains. Welcome to the Offset world. Lol
Apr 03, 2016 at 12:57 PM
p.12 #18Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
Fred Miranda wrote:
BTW guys, this is a community rolling review thread and all members are welcome to post samples and comparisons here if desired.
I'm leaving to Mono Lake right now and should have some real world landscape images taken with this lens.
Something to keep in mind: I had to get a bigger backpack to be able to bring my 24-70/2.8GM and 70-200/4G lenses. I was getting a way with a much smaller bag until now.
The big 82mm filter thread made me add my classic Lee filters and that is another bulk compared to the Seven5.
However, I mainly use ND filters...Show more →
Fred,
I picked up the 82mm Breakthrough Photography 3.0 ND and the 82mm Formatt Hitech Firecrest IRND 1.5 ND filters. I have step up rings to use them with the Sony FE 16-34 f/4, FE 70-200 f/4 and my Batis 25 & 85 lenses. I did a quick test today with the 24-70 GM and there doesn't appear to be any vignetting concerns using them at 24mm focal length. I have an 82mm Sing-Ray Thin CPL as well. I'll be giving the 24-70 GM some real world testing in a week and a half out at Joshua Tree NP. Good luck with your Mono Lake trip. I'll be looking forward to seeing your images!
Chuck
Edited on Apr 03, 2016 at 02:48 PM · View previous versions
BTW guys, this is a community rolling review thread and all members are welcome to post samples and comparisons here if desired.
I'm leaving to Mono Lake right now and should have some real world landscape images taken with this lens.
Something to keep in mind: I had to get a bigger backpack to be able to bring my 24-70/2.8GM and 70-200/4G lenses. I was getting a way with a much smaller bag until now.
The big 82mm filter thread made me add my classic Lee filters and that is another bulk compared to the Seven5.
However, I mainly use ND filters...Show more →
Fred,
I picked up the 82mm Breakthrough Photography 3.0 ND and the 82mm Formatt Hitech Firecrest IRND 1.5 ND filters. I have step up rings to use them with the Sony FE 16-34 f/4, FE 70-200 f/4 and my Batis 25 & 85 lenses. I did a quick test today with the 24-70 GM and there doesn't appear to be any vignetting concerns using them at 24mm focal length. I have an 82mm Sing-Ray Thin CPL as well. I'll be giving the 24-70 GM some real world testing in a week and a half out at Joshua Tree NP. Good luck with your Mono Lake trip. I'll be looking forward to seeing your images!
Chuck
Edited on Apr 03, 2016 at 02:48 PM · View previous versions
Apr 03, 2016 at 02:36 PM
p.12 #19Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
Unfortunately I am returning my 24-70GM due to possible decentering. The right edge looks noticeably soft compared to the rest of the frame (too bad, because the rest of the frame looks quite nice). Good thing I didn't sell my 16-35mm and Batis 25mm yet! Very disappointing.
Apr 03, 2016 at 02:44 PM
p.12 #20Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM Rolling Review
TheEmrys wrote:
I haven't seen a Sigma that has great bokeh. I find it to be on the harsh side. Sigma loves sharp penses, and that really does appeal to a large number of folks. When I had the Sigma 50, I got so frustrated trying to get the colors how I liked. I have already stated I am mostly rubbish at PP, so that may be the cause. But at this point, I find Sigma mostly irrelevant in terms of lens choices. I just don't love what they offer. For many, sure, it'll be an amazing and sharp lens. But I...Show more →
The tradeoff's in Sigma Art designs are well suited for landscape/nature shooting.
I haven't seen a Sigma that has great bokeh. I find it to be on the harsh side. Sigma loves sharp penses, and that really does appeal to a large number of folks. When I had the Sigma 50, I got so frustrated trying to get the colors how I liked. I have already stated I am mostly rubbish at PP, so that may be the cause. But at this point, I find Sigma mostly irrelevant in terms of lens choices. I just don't love what they offer. For many, sure, it'll be an amazing and sharp lens. But I...Show more →
The tradeoff's in Sigma Art designs are well suited for landscape/nature shooting.
Apr 03, 2016 at 02:52 PM