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p.15 #1 · Sigma MC-11: Compatibility, Performance Thread.


AGeoJO wrote:
Is that lens on the Sigma's list as compatible using the MC-11? It may work just fine but the full AF features as in native FE lens(es) is not enabled, I assume? Another greet image, I would say and yes, she is pretty .


Thank you!
About the lens - this is the version before, no OS, and not the "S" version.
I believe the newer models will work even better.



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Beautiful shot!



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Jun 25, 2016 at 05:02 PM
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p.15 #2 · Sigma MC-11: Compatibility, Performance Thread.


Another day - another test
I was on assignment at Ace Cafe London and met another photographer, who had Canon EF 85mm f/1.2L II USM.
I asked him to borrow the lens for a few minutes and test it - Sony A7R II + Sigma MC-11.
Focus - is not lightning fast, but I heard this lens is not fast focusing in general.
Focus is accurate, and almost no hunting at all. (Good light conditions, outdoor)
Tested only on static objects and only a few photos
Here is one of the photos I took:

Triton & Cafe Racer Day by kalpachev1, on Flickr



Jun 26, 2016 at 11:01 PM
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p.15 #3 · Sigma MC-11: Compatibility, Performance Thread.


Hi Kalpachev!
Are the MC-11 and 120-300 Sport fast enough to obtain good results with erratic movements?



Jun 27, 2016 at 05:34 AM
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p.15 #4 · Sigma MC-11: Compatibility, Performance Thread.


cobracalde wrote:
Hi Kalpachev!
Are the MC-11 and 120-300 Sport fast enough to obtain good results with erratic movements?


Hello,
This is the older version with NO stabilization and not the "S" version: Sigma 120-300mm f/2.8 EX DG HSM
For some reason it gets the focus faster in AF-C mode, as I noticed, but did not had the chance to use it with moving subjects.
If I have any assignments anytime soon with something that involve moving subjects will try it and report.

Regards,
Kalin



Jun 27, 2016 at 06:03 AM
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p.15 #5 · Sigma MC-11: Compatibility, Performance Thread.



If I have any assignments anytime soon with something that involve moving subjects will try it and report.


Many Thanks!! I'll follow this thread...




Jun 27, 2016 at 06:18 AM
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p.15 #6 · Sigma MC-11: Compatibility, Performance Thread.


Was this posted earlier?




Jun 30, 2016 at 04:15 AM
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p.15 #7 · Sigma MC-11: Compatibility, Performance Thread.


Tested Canon 50 1.2L with mc11. On static or slow moving subjects the focus is fast enough and accurate. I shot people walking away or towards the camera there was no problem at all. But for fast moving subjects the AF is not fast enough. Subjects usually moved faster than lens can react, though the camera can determine correctly where yhe AF points should be.


Jul 17, 2016 at 07:54 AM
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p.15 #8 · Sigma MC-11: Compatibility, Performance Thread.


Any consensus on how the Sigma is doing with internal reflections, especially TSE? That's the main downside for me with un-flocked Commlite and Fotodiox AF adapters.


Jul 17, 2016 at 10:13 AM
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p.15 #9 · Sigma MC-11: Compatibility, Performance Thread.


Gunzorro wrote:
Any consensus on how the Sigma is doing with internal reflections, especially TSE? That's the main downside for me with un-flocked Commlite and Fotodiox AF adapters.


I do not have TSE, so I can not confirm, but so far no problem.

And also another rumor and gossip down, that Sony A7RII + Sigma MC-11 is not suitable for professional sport work

I did a job today at Ace Cafe London Stunt Festival & Streetfighter Show 2016

Info about this shot:
Stunt rider: OGA Hiroyuki
17 July 2016
London, UK
Sony A7RII + Sigma MC-11 + Canon EF 24-70 F/2.8L
(I did lots of photos with the Sigma 120-300 NON OS version - I have some very good, but first need to edit all and later will publish some.)

OGA Hiroyuki by Kalin Kalpachev, on Flickr

Edited on Jul 18, 2016 at 06:25 AM · View previous versions



Jul 17, 2016 at 07:50 PM
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p.15 #10 · Sigma MC-11: Compatibility, Performance Thread.


When using with Canon 50 1.2L, when it flares sometimes I see flare bound by a straight line, rather similar to what Nikon D750 has when the camera just shipped.


Jul 18, 2016 at 12:49 AM
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p.15 #11 · Sigma MC-11: Compatibility, Performance Thread.


I'm surprised how well the MC-11 adapter works with the Canon 24-70LII and 200/1.8L lenses.


Jul 26, 2016 at 01:08 PM
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p.15 #12 · Sigma MC-11: Compatibility, Performance Thread.


My initial results are a little disappointing. I haven't been able to match the performance I've seen in videos for focus acquisition and confirmation. Mine is certainly better than the Fotodiox (worst with the most lenses) and Commlite (closer to the Sigma), but nothing like I'd hoped.

I am using the old a7R, and this might be why I'm getting such bum speed and accuracy.

The Fotodiox works well with some lenses, in fact better than the Commlite. But the Commlite is faster, more accurate and crashes less often. Both are terrible in acquiring AF near MFD, often confirming totally OOF images as in-focus. Both hunt, and will sometimes stall, needing to be refreshed several times with the shutter button. The Fotodiox fails most, utterly refusing to focus. Both need the camera shut off once they've been "baffled" by an impossible assignment.

The good news, even if the a7R is the problem, is that the Sigma is more assured in focusing, although still dreadfully slow and needing immobile subjects for use at its fastest pace, which can be focus acquisition in several seconds from initial half shutter press and hold. Sometimes longer. And the other two -- especially the Fotodiox -- can take two or three refresh half-presses, and still not focus. Absolutely no way to use any of these combinations for paid event or faster paced commercial work.

Perhaps I'll learn some new tricks or settings to produce speedy focusing like I've seen in YouTube videos. But not so far.

Regarding the Sigma:
1) It has the best contrast of the three, and short of taking any twilight time exposures with light sources in the frame, it seems well baffled and flocked. The other two are simply baffled, with the Fotodiox having multi-stepped baffle design.
2) Operates the fastest of the three.
3) Works best with the newer lenses such as EF 24 and 35 IS, 40/2.8 STM and 24-105L IS. Works fairly decent with the original 24-70/2.8L and 100/2.8L macro. Works surprisingly well with 16-35/2.8L II -- outstanding sharpness in center when wide open, and decent on edges (not perfect) at f/11. Even the older 17-35/2.8L works pretty good with the Sigma.
4) Almost completely useless with my 50/1.2L. Maybe the lens would perform fine on the a7RII.
5) Absolutely failed on all my earlier EF lenses such as 50/2.5 CM, 15/2.8 FE, 135/2.8 SF, and of course 28-70/3.5-4.5 and 35-105/3.5-4.5.

My next trip to Washington, I'll take the Zony 24-70/4 and the Sony 28/2 along with the Sigma MC-11 and Canon 16-35/2.8L II (and little 40 STM). I think it would be best to have a native mount such as the Zony 16-35/4, so maybe someday. For now, I'll use the Canon for UWA.

Even with the native AF lenses, I find the Sony very toy-like and slow for focusing and shooting. It produces great images, and is extremely versatile with Alt manual focus lenses, so I don't terribly mind putting in the extra effort to make it work for me. But for my preferred types of hand held shooting, it is light-years behind the Canon 5D3 and Nikon D800e.



Jul 26, 2016 at 03:39 PM
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p.15 #13 · Sigma MC-11: Compatibility, Performance Thread.


I'd be interested in advice as to whether this (or the MBIV) would this be a good choice for a A7rii with a EF70-200 2.8IS ii, or should I wait for the G Master?? Although Fred's posts have me yearning to buy back the 200 2L I sold a few years ago.... :-)



Jul 28, 2016 at 12:34 PM
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p.15 #14 · Sigma MC-11: Compatibility, Performance Thread.




m3ss wrote:
hi
anyone here uses the original a7 mk1 with mc-11? does eye af work?
i have tried mc-11 canon ef to sony e mount adapter with 24, 50 art lenses. cannot get eye af to work. face recognition also cannot register faces. is it just me or it does not supposed to work?
other features work fine. camera 3.1 firmware, i updated the mc-11 to the latest firmware too.
thanks

How's the speed? Everyone who uses an mc11 seems to have a II series.
Anyone try and use an Mki 24 1.4l?



Jul 30, 2016 at 11:00 AM
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p.15 #15 · Sigma MC-11: Compatibility, Performance Thread.


I tried the very underrated and not well known Tokina 50-135 2.8 lens (APS-C). I used it on the Sony A6300 via MC-11 adapter, and it is quick to focus and very accurate in good light in AF-S and AF-C. It hunts a little bit in low light, but it is still very good. If you don't plan on upgrading to full frame in the future, this lens is highly recommended. Very sharp and well built lens. Although it's built like a tank, it is surprisingly small and light, especially compared to the 70-200 2.8's from Canon and Nikon. This is a lens that you won't get tired bringing around with you all day. Keep in mind this lens does not have any image stabilization, but it's not a hindrance to me. However, if Sony makes an APS-C mirrorless camera with in-body stabilization in the future, this lens will be even more of a treat to use.












Aug 11, 2016 at 10:28 PM
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p.15 #16 · Sigma MC-11: Compatibility, Performance Thread.


Just used the Sigma MC-11 with the Canon 70-200 F4 L USM (Non-is) for a sports shoot and it works pretty well. I would say the AF was good enough for sports (Outdoors so I had good light). Not sure about low light, but I'm happy with it.

The Sigma also works with a Canon 85 1.8 although I haven't used it for a shoot, initial tests are good. Not as fast as the 70-200, but very good AF so far.

Camera used: A7Rii



Aug 16, 2016 at 09:59 AM
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p.15 #17 · Sigma MC-11: Compatibility, Performance Thread.


Great info. Thanks for posting.

I have the A7R and A7S and have been wondering if the Sigma adapter would be a good choice for my last remaining Canon lens, the 70-200 f/4 IS It's a great lens but AF is all but useless on the Fotodiox adapter. Which also has light leaks. I have been wondering if the Sigma might be a better choice, but it sounds like the gen 1 bodies don't work well at all.

Gunzorro wrote:
My initial results are a little disappointing. I haven't been able to match the performance I've seen in videos for focus acquisition and confirmation. Mine is certainly better than the Fotodiox (worst with the most lenses) and Commlite (closer to the Sigma), but nothing like I'd hoped.

I am using the old a7R, and this might be why I'm getting such bum speed and accuracy.

The Fotodiox works well with some lenses, in fact better than the Commlite. But the Commlite is faster, more accurate and crashes less often. Both are terrible in acquiring AF near MFD, often confirming totally OOF
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Aug 16, 2016 at 10:11 AM
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p.15 #18 · Sigma MC-11: Compatibility, Performance Thread.


Tried Sony A6000 + Sigma MC-11 + Sigma 35mm F/1.4 ART on Sunday.
I am quite surprised by the results - it works very good. Outdoor, good light.

Some photos from the event:

Ace cafe London by Kalin Kalpachev, on Flickr


Ace cafe London by Kalin Kalpachev, on Flickr


Ace cafe London by Kalin Kalpachev, on Flickr



Aug 16, 2016 at 01:07 PM
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p.15 #19 · Sigma MC-11: Compatibility, Performance Thread.


Are there tripod mounting holes or do you have to just mount to the camera to an L-bracket? Also, anyone try the Canon 85 1.8?

Thanks,
Chris



Aug 27, 2016 at 03:36 PM
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Schlotkins wrote:
Are there tripod mounting holes or do you have to just mount to the camera to an L-bracket? Also, anyone try the Canon 85 1.8?

Thanks,
Chris


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