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p.5 #1Pre-order the new Sony RX1R II today!
Lucinda wrote:
The IQ from the RX1 is some of the best my eyes have seen. There is just a depth and richness to the files that I am constantly blown away by. The RX1R II should just be incredible. Such incredible HORSEPOWER in such a tiny footprint.

A lot of the times when I have shot with the RX1 I seemed to be dismissed and ignored as someone with a small point and shoot. I kinda like that feeling.

Shot with the RX1.

http://www.hepkitty.net/forum/m-240.jpg


I actually love it when people completely underestimate the RX1. Once they see the photos, they are amazed!!
Nov 08, 2015 at 09:57 AM
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p.5 #2Pre-order the new Sony RX1R II today!
As far as I know there is no way to trigger the shutter electronically because the RX1R/II has neither connector for remote control or infrared sensor for remote activation.
Is there a workaround? Mechanical cable release?

Perhaps the RX1RII will offer a way to do it using a playmemory app like touchless shutter.
Nov 09, 2015 at 12:31 AM
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p.5 #3Pre-order the new Sony RX1R II today!
Fred Miranda wrote:
As far as I know there is no way to trigger the shutter electronically because the RX1R/II has neither connector for remote control or infrared sensor for remote activation.
Is there a workaround? Mechanical cable release?

Perhaps the RX1RII will offer a way to do it using a playmemory app like touchless shutter.


the rx1/rx1r requires a physical cable release for "remote release". since the mkII has wireless the remote apps for from the a7 series should work fine i assume.

Nov 09, 2015 at 12:39 AM
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p.5 #4Pre-order the new Sony RX1R II today!
The RX1R2 might be able via NFC to activate its shutter using a Samsung smartphone like you can with the RX100. Can only use mechanical shutter release cable with old RX1.
Nov 09, 2015 at 12:40 AM
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p.5 #5Pre-order the new Sony RX1R II today!
Fred Miranda wrote:
As far as I know there is no way to trigger the shutter electronically because the RX1R/II has neither connector for remote control or infrared sensor for remote activation.
Is there a workaround? Mechanical cable release?

Perhaps the RX1RII will offer a way to do it using a playmemory app like touchless shutter.


I've been looking into this. The only physical way is to use a threaded cable release screwed into the shutter button. If you need something more flexible than the wire, you could try the bulb type release that uses air pressure.

Wireless options are via Playmemories apps. Smart Remote is pretty standard. "Touchless Shutter" is a new one that looks interesting. It uses the EVF proximity sensor - the shutter is triggered by waving your hand in front of the EVF. I've tried it on the A7rII and it works pretty good. It's a lot faster and easier than connecting via smartphone. It's a viable option for tripod shots in lieu of the 2 second delay timer. I'm thinking that since it's supported on the A7rII, it's a good bet we'll see it on the RX1rII.
Nov 09, 2015 at 12:49 AM
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p.5 #6Pre-order the new Sony RX1R II today!
The play apps, in the past, didn't go beyond 30 secs I recall.
Nov 09, 2015 at 06:15 AM
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p.5 #7Pre-order the new Sony RX1R II today!
Fred Miranda wrote:
As far as I know there is no way to trigger the shutter electronically because the RX1R/II has neither connector for remote control or infrared sensor for remote activation.
Is there a workaround? Mechanical cable release?

Perhaps the RX1RII will offer a way to do it using a playmemory app like touchless shutter.



At least on a7s and RX100M3 it's possible to use remote triggers through the multiport connection (the micro-USB port isn't just for charging the camera and transferring the images). I would be highly surprised if this specification was omitted from the RX1R2.

And as said by you and others, the PlayMemories apps should offer at least two other ways to trigger the camera; either through the EVF sensor or through cell phone or tablet.
Nov 09, 2015 at 09:17 AM
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p.5 #8Pre-order the new Sony RX1R II today!
Fred Miranda wrote:
As far as I know there is no way to trigger the shutter electronically because the RX1R/II has neither connector for remote control or infrared sensor for remote activation.
Is there a workaround? Mechanical cable release?

Perhaps the RX1RII will offer a way to do it using a playmemory app like touchless shutter.


Fred,

If you look at the official Sony website for accessories and click on RX1/RX1R and then RX1RII, you'll see a difference in supported accessories.

http://www.sony.net/Products/diacc/systemchart/en-gb/index.html?area=US#cyber-shot

You'll see

RM-VPR1 (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=RM-VPR1&N=0&InitialSearch=yes&sts=ma&Top+Nav-Search=) Standard Multi Terminal remote with bulb
RM-SPR1 (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=RM-SPR1&N=0&InitialSearch=yes&sts=ma&Top+Nav-Search=) Just standard shutter
RMT-VP1K (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1082056-REG/sony_rmt_vp1k_wireless_receiver_and.html) This one appears to be similar to the first one but support for wireless, but looks inconvenient since you need to secure the wireless dongle somewhere.
GP-VPT1 (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/997411-REG/sony_gpvpt1_gp_avt1_shooting_grip.html) This one looks the most interesting, it's a grip that folds out to a mini tripod. Probably better for camcorders.

And I know it's pretty obvious, but it's nice to know that if you have the older EVF and like the tilt feature, you can use it on the RX1RII, though it kinda defeats the purpose of having the built in pop up finder.
Nov 09, 2015 at 02:38 PM
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p.5 #9Pre-order the new Sony RX1R II today!
dgdg wrote:
The play apps, in the past, didn't go beyond 30 secs I recall.


The updated version of the Smart Remote Control app now supports bulb mode.
Nov 09, 2015 at 03:10 PM
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p.5 #10Pre-order the new Sony RX1R II today!
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Fred Miranda wroteAs far as I know there is no way to trigger the shutter electronically because the RX1R/II has neither connector for remote control or infrared sensor for remote activation.
Is there a workaround? Mechanical cable release?

Perhaps the RX1RII will offer a way to do it using a playmemory app like touchless shutter.
Fred,

If you look at the official Sony website for accessories and click on RX1/RX1R and then RX1RII, you'll see a difference in supported accessories.

http://www.sony.net/Products/diacc/systemchart/en-gb/index.html?area=US#cyber-shot

You'll see

RM-VPR1 (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=RM-VPR1&N=0&InitialSearch=yes&sts=ma&Top+Nav-Search=) Standard Multi Terminal remote with bulb
RM-SPR1 (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=RM-SPR1&N=0&InitialSearch=yes&sts=ma&Top+Nav-Search=) Just standard shutter
RMT-VP1K (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1082056-REG/sony_rmt_vp1k_wireless_receiver_and.html) This one appears to be similar to the first one but support for wireless, but looks inconvenient since you need to secure the wireless dongle somewhere.
GP-VPT1 (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/997411-REG/sony_gpvpt1_gp_avt1_shooting_grip.html) This one looks the most interesting, it's a grip that folds out to a mini tripod. Probably better for camcorders.

And I know it's pretty obvious, but it's nice to know that if you have
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That's truly awesome if it supports the VPR1 remote. The RX1/r does not, which is a bit odd. The remote was probably designed after the RX1 released, and they couldn't retro engineer via firmware.

Nov 09, 2015 at 03:17 PM
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p.5 #11Pre-order the new Sony RX1R II today!
dandrewk wrote:
dgdg wroteThe play apps, in the past, didn't go beyond 30 secs I recall.
The updated version of the Smart Remote Control app now supports bulb mode.


That's very exciting!
I'm glad I mentioned this.

David
Nov 09, 2015 at 06:45 PM
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p.5 #12Pre-order the new Sony RX1R II today!
Has anyone found the user manual for the RX1RII online, yet?
Nov 11, 2015 at 09:28 AM
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p.5 #13Pre-order the new Sony RX1R II today!
I can't think of anything I would rather do than "pre-order the new Sony RX1R II today". Unfortunately I can't. Sony Australia has announced the camera with a suggested retail price of AUD5499 (USD3961 / CAD5266 / GBP2591 / EUR3695) but no local stores are even taking pre-orders. My impatience seems to be increasing in proportion to the number of pages I've looked at in the RX1(R/R2) Image Thread. I started at page 1 and am now up to page 126. What a Garden of Visual Delights!
Nov 19, 2015 at 09:16 PM
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p.5 #14Pre-order the new Sony RX1R II today!
You could order from someone like digitalrev in Hong Kong who ship internationally and pay any import duties so it end s up costing slightly less
Nov 20, 2015 at 12:22 AM
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p.5 #15Pre-order the new Sony RX1R II today!
I was happy to do that with items such as the Sony A6000, A-mount 85/2.8, L1-EA3 adapter, etc. But for a high-ticket item like the RX1R II I'd want a local warranty.

Surelythisnameisfree wrote:
You could order from someone like digitalrev in Hong Kong who ship internationally and pay any import duties so it end s up costing slightly less

Nov 20, 2015 at 12:56 AM
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p.5 #16Pre-order the new Sony RX1R II today!
Jeff Kott wrote:
With a 32 mm focal length, the speed of the lens and the performance of this sensor at high ISOs, there is absolutely no need for IBIS on this camera and the addition of IBIS is certainly not worth the size and weight increase which would ruin the whole gestalt of the camera,


I'd say not "needing" IBIS is far more of a personal preference than an absolute. There may be no need for you to have IBIS however many others will want it, especially on a high MP camera. I know I would benefit from IBIS no matter how low of a SS some one else can get with out it. I'd also much rather have IBIS and not need it than need it and not have it.
The Rx2 is not a pocket cam so the nominal size increase would be a non issue for most especially considering if it was slightly larger we could have the potential for a fixed viewfinder. IQ degradation is also a non-issue if you turn IBIS off.
Having said that it's still a very desirable cam and I doubt any body will ever satisfy every buyers needs. The best reason I can think of for leaving IBIS off is reliability given some of the issues others have had on A7 variants.

Nov 20, 2015 at 09:36 AM
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p.5 #17Pre-order the new Sony RX1R II today!
What issues with IBIS. Have not had one issue at all or read any.
Nov 20, 2015 at 10:32 AM
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p.5 #18Pre-order the new Sony RX1R II today!
If IBIS could be added with no size increase then I'd be fine with it. If it meant an increase as you mention that would allow a fixed EVF then I think that is a pretty significant size difference and I'd pass on the camera - I sold my Leica Q as it was just too big and made me think I may as well have an ILC at that size. The silly thing is, Leica actually advise you keep IBIS switched off for stills photography as it degrades the image and only use it for video - frankly a fixed lens camera is far from ideal for video anyway so to add IBIS just for that seems a waste.
Obviously everyone has their preference but an RX1 with IBIS wouldn't be much smaller than an A7RII so I wouldn't see the point in it
Nov 20, 2015 at 11:21 AM
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p.5 #19Pre-order the new Sony RX1R II today!
Surelythisnameisfree wrote:
If IBIS could be added with no size increase then I'd be fine with it. If it meant an increase as you mention that would allow a fixed EVF then I think that is a pretty significant size difference and I'd pass on the camera - I sold my Leica Q as it was just too big and made me think I may as well have an ILC at that size. The silly thing is, Leica actually advise you keep IBIS switched off for stills photography as it degrades the image and only use it for video - frankly a
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Also if I'm not mistaken, the RX1 has some sort of steady shot that's enabled for video that's done electronically. A fixed built in EVF would've meant a larger body as well as ibis. The lack of 4K isn't a deal breaker for me as that probably meant either over heating or even worse battery life than is present now. I can manage my battery pretty well when shooting stills on my a7r2, but when shooting video it drops just starting at the battery life indicator.

Another thing I'm happy about is the lack of a mode dial lock. I'm not sure who requested a locking mode dial on the new Mark 2 bodies, as I find myself personally cursing it more than liking it. I'll often switch between A, M, and shooting video frequently and find the locking mode dial more hassle than helpful. Maybe if it were clickable like the E-M1 to lock and unlock but at its present state is annoying.
Nov 20, 2015 at 01:16 PM
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