p.15 #5 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF
I need a lot of stuff to make the RX1 work for me: an RRS grip with some friction tape on it, a small soft release, the optional EVF (tilts!!) and two, or three, empty filter rings screwed onto the lens working as protection and shading hood.
Click here - link to the RX1 "technical" thread
The lens doesn't flare a lot at all but some protection is always a good thing.
p.15 #7 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF
Jeff, I forgot; many like to use a single step down ring for a hood. I took empty filter rings as I had a couple of second rate filters in a drawer. Point is you don't need to get a regular (big) hood for this lens.
p.15 #8 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF
itai195 wrote:
The RX1 was a great camera as long as you liked shooting at 1/80s and f/4
you know there were a number of camera modes that allowed you to not shoot at f/4, the camera just chooses f/4 because it's the sharpest aperture.
Jeff Kott wrote:
I don't have an RX1, but am planning to get an RX1Rii.
For those of you who have the RX1(R), do you find you need to use a lens hood?
i was never able to detect any difference in flare performance with the hood vs without. the lens is very resistant to flare unless the sun is just in the corner of the frame or just outside. the hood doesn't help with either situation.
like jonas, i use a step down ring and empty filter as a "hood" for protection. i don't use a lens cap, so this set up allows me to just pull it out and shoot immediately.
p.15 #9 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF
I suppose I'll chip in my 2 cents since I owned a RX1 for two years. It was a love / hate relationship and now that it's moved onto a good home, I look back on those times are far more enjoyable than any of my experiences with a DSLR. I use a D750 for now, with their new 35mm ED 1,8G - a great lens in its own regards but it simply can't touch the Zeiss on the RX1. Obviously having a lens designed specially for, and aligned perfectly to a sensor will yield results that put it a step or two ahead of (most) DSLR combinations.
The RX1 out of the box, whilst useable, presented some ergonomic issues. A lot of this came down to my large hands and my brain still in the DSLR train-of-thought. I Remedied ALOT of this by getting a Ulysses case which comes with a molded grip. I found this much better than the RRS set-up and the Gariz case - the Ulysses' case is absolutely fantastic and improves most of the ergomomic woes I had with it. Throw in a soft release button and I was set.
The EVF recieves its fare share of criticisim, but honestly after two years of use I didn't mind it at all. The fact that it tilted was a boon for me, and it saved my back a few times too. It seems like they've gone with the tilt screen to substitute for replacing the body with a in-built EVF and I see that as a win as well.
I ended up getting a FotoDiox hood, since its crafted with the same clip on style as the original, so it retaines the ability to still use filters on your lens. It's also (personally) a much nicer design too
Looking at the RX1R II I see that Sony has addressed (most) of the issues I had with the original. A few extra goodies go a long way in selling it to me as well.
14cm minimum focus
In-body-EVF
Tilt-screen
A7R II AF system
Continuous tracking
42mp BSI sensor
3.5 times faster processing and data transfer
Eye-AF (hell yes!)
The list goes on of course, and there are obvious ommissions that they missed but it's a great upgrade and showcase of the companies abilities to push the boundaries. People forget that this is all jammed into a body that is smaller than a Fuji X100, Leica Q or any of Sony's own A7 bodies. There are always compromises and there is no perfect camera. Everyone bangs on about the Leica Q - I loved it too, but it also had its issues. Weird banding (even at base ISO) quite odd white speckled shot-noise or read-noise through the ISO range? and the EVF, whilst large, still has the "tearing" you get from any typical field-sequential screen.
From what I've seen from user reports and experiences around the net, the original RX1 (like my own experience) was certainly a love / hate experience, but seeing those gorgeous files always made it worth it. I got used to its quirks and 3-4 months into my time with it I came to love its limitations - they forced me to be creative and think outside the square. DSLRS, like my D750, are tried and true - unbelievably reliable and (almost) infallible and most shooting situations. What they do to me though, especially in street shooting - is remove so much of the fun that drew me to it in the first place. The RX1 retained all of the beautiful IQ qualities of a FF camera, but all in a package that literally fit inside my coat pocket. There are plenty of haters of this camera, but for me at least - I enjoyed every moment, quirks and all.
p.15 #11 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF
ChrClowes wrote:
I suppose I'll chip in my 2 cents since I owned a RX1 for two years. It was a love / hate relationship and now that it's moved onto a good home, I look back on those times are far more enjoyable than any of my experiences with a DSLR. I use a D750 for now, with their new 35mm ED 1,8G - a great lens in its own regards but it simply can't touch the Zeiss on the RX1. Obviously having a lens designed specially for, and aligned perfectly to a sensor will yield results that put it a step or two ahead of (most) DSLR combinations.
The RX1 out of the box, whilst useable, presented some ergonomic issues. A lot of this came down to my large hands and my brain still in the DSLR train-of-thought. I Remedied ALOT of this by getting a Ulysses case which comes with a molded grip. I found this much better than the RRS set-up and the Gariz case - the Ulysses' case is absolutely fantastic and improves most of the ergomomic woes I had with it. Throw in a soft release button and I was set.
The EVF recieves its fare share of criticisim, but honestly after two years of use I didn't mind it at all. The fact that it tilted was a boon for me, and it saved my back a few times too. It seems like they've gone with the tilt screen to substitute for replacing the body with a in-built EVF and I see that as a win as well.
I ended up getting a FotoDiox hood, since its crafted with the same clip on style as the original, so it retaines the ability to still use filters on your lens. It's also (personally) a much nicer design too
Looking at the RX1R II I see that Sony has addressed (most) of the issues I had with the original. A few extra goodies go a long way in selling it to me as well.
14cm minimum focus
In-body-EVF
Tilt-screen
A7R II AF system
Continuous tracking
42mp BSI sensor
3.5 times faster processing and data transfer
Eye-AF (hell yes!)
The list goes on of course, and there are obvious ommissions that they missed but it's a great upgrade and showcase of the companies abilities to push the boundaries. People forget that this is all jammed into a body that is smaller than a Fuji X100, Leica Q or any of Sony's own A7 bodies. There are always compromises and there is no perfect camera. Everyone bangs on about the Leica Q - I loved it too, but it also had its issues. Weird banding (even at base ISO) quite odd white speckled shot-noise or read-noise through the ISO range? and the EVF, whilst large, still has the "tearing" you get from any typical field-sequential screen.
From what I've seen from user reports and experiences around the net, the original RX1 (like my own experience) was certainly a love / hate experience, but seeing those gorgeous files always made it worth it. I got used to its quirks and 3-4 months into my time with it I came to love its limitations - they forced me to be creative and think outside the square. DSLRS, like my D750, are tried and true - unbelievably reliable and (almost) infallible and most shooting situations. What they do to me though, especially in street shooting - is remove so much of the fun that drew me to it in the first place. The RX1 retained all of the beautiful IQ qualities of a FF camera, but all in a package that literally fit inside my coat pocket. There are plenty of haters of this camera, but for me at least - I enjoyed every moment, quirks and all. ...Show more →
I appreciate your elaboration of your experience with the RX1. I wonder if it feels better than the RX100 felt to me: a piece of electronics and not really a camera. Many people have said this, but I find it to be true. My Ricoh GR feels much more like I'm "interfaced" to the camera instead, a more direct operation that feels much less far removed from the picture taking by electronics.
p.15 #12 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF
AhamB wrote:
I appreciate your elaboration of your experience with the RX1. I wonder if it feels better than the RX100 felt to me: a piece of electronics and not really a camera. Many people have said this, but I find it to be true. My Ricoh GR feels much more like I'm "interfaced" to the camera instead, a more direct operation that feels much less far removed from the picture taking by electronics.
I have since sold my RX1 and have tried Sony's other offerings (RX100, A7's) and I personally feel the RX1 is a lovely, lovely camera - it was definitely a camera more than a piece of electronics to me - more so than Sony's other cameras. I think much of that has to do with the amazing lens on it. That lens is what's making me keep an eye out for more RX1r II material to read. I also think the RX1's quirks made it a rewarding camera to shoot with because you had to know the limitations of the camera (AF especially) and try to work around them. Now with better AF and the in-built EVF this is definitely a more complete camera than before (Like Zhangyue noted this camera fixed many of the issues that the original RX1 had), but these added features may well turn this fantastic camera into "a piece of electronics" instead. I know some Leica Q people have stated that camera doesn't make them work and it's become too easy to grab shots. It's a silly thing to complain about and it's great to hear the RX1 niggles will probably be ironed out, but from a photographer who likes to feel and work for the shot it may loose some appeal in that respect.
p.15 #13 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF
AhamB wrote:
I appreciate your elaboration of your experience with the RX1. I wonder if it feels better than the RX100 felt to me: a piece of electronics and not really a camera. Many people have said this, but I find it to be true. My Ricoh GR feels much more like I'm "interfaced" to the camera instead, a more direct operation that feels much less far removed from the picture taking by electronics.
To me, the RX1 had a level of refinement and precision way, way beyond other modern Sony "consumer electronic" cameras I have owned (A7r, NEX-7, etc.). Part of that is because of the aperture ring, part to the silky smooth shutter button/ release and part to the build quality which is much better than most current digital cameras. I also owned the Ricoh GR and loved it's capabilities for it's size and particularly it's user interface. The RX1 though is built to a much higher level and you do sense that when using it.
p.15 #14 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF
Does anyone knows how the Auto-ISO will be implemented on the RX1RII?
I didn't see any specs on this yet.
I absolutely love the output of my RX1, but this is an aerea with lost of "Room for Improvement".
p.15 #18 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF
Zony_user wrote:
I'm quite confident that the images will look superb. All I really want to see is a comparison of the AF speed against the original RX1.
That is what I'm waiting for also, and the motive why I sold my RX1
p.15 #19 · Announced: RX1R II with 42MP sensor and EVF
So happy that people here are (for the most part) so happy... for those of you who haven't owned an RX1, you are in for a fabulous treat, its the best camera in the world right now (thats just my opinion). When you see its images, no other device can compare with the resolution and portability.
That said, I don't need a variable optical low pass filter since there's nothing wrong with moiré on my RX1r, ever (but I don't shoot lace wedding dresses, that's true). Pop up viewfinder, nice, but without an eyecup I'm guessing it will just stab me in the eye. No flash. The tilting rear and enhanced AF are certainly welcome, but I'm not paying $3200 for the privilege.
Still, my hat is off to sony for making a great camera greater, and I wish everyone pre ordering one the best of luck selling your other cameras.
