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Archive 2015Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
p.13 #1Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
GMPhotography wrote:
I think the Loxia 21 is a prime example of what serious shooters want in there bag. Great performance at a decent cost, small, light and very easy to travel with.
Size I know many people make big issues out of this and not on purpose but I bought what I needed without regard to size and weight. I need what I need and that's all there is to it. But along the way my bags have gotten a lot smaller, I mean a lot small. I actually consider the two Batis lenses smallish but there very light more importantly....Show more →
Your bag will get even smaller when you trade in that FE35/1.4 for the RX1R II
I think the Loxia 21 is a prime example of what serious shooters want in there bag. Great performance at a decent cost, small, light and very easy to travel with.
Size I know many people make big issues out of this and not on purpose but I bought what I needed without regard to size and weight. I need what I need and that's all there is to it. But along the way my bags have gotten a lot smaller, I mean a lot small. I actually consider the two Batis lenses smallish but there very light more importantly....Show more →
Your bag will get even smaller when you trade in that FE35/1.4 for the RX1R II
Oct 23, 2015 at 10:54 AM
p.13 #2Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
I just saw a video on it. Crap I want one. Dang thing is sweeeeeeet. Lol
I'm going to wait it out and see what Sony announcess but that lens looks killer on it. Forget the dang ROI this may get personal
It's funny Pros buy for there needs and we rarely buy the fun stuff. The freedom the hobbyist has I envy . Maybe it's time I buy my luxury item.
I'm going to wait it out and see what Sony announcess but that lens looks killer on it. Forget the dang ROI this may get personal
It's funny Pros buy for there needs and we rarely buy the fun stuff. The freedom the hobbyist has I envy . Maybe it's time I buy my luxury item.
Oct 23, 2015 at 11:03 AM
p.13 #3Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
GMPhotography wrote:
I just saw a video on it. Crap I want one. Dang thing is sweeeeeeet. Lol
I'm going to wait it out and see what Sony announcess but that lens looks killer on it. Forget the dang ROI this may get personal
It's funny Pros buy for there needs and we rarely buy the fun stuff. The freedom the hobbyist has I envy . Maybe it's time I buy my luxury item.
but seriously the sensor is the same as your A7Rii so the files won't hamper your workflow either 
I just saw a video on it. Crap I want one. Dang thing is sweeeeeeet. Lol
I'm going to wait it out and see what Sony announcess but that lens looks killer on it. Forget the dang ROI this may get personal
It's funny Pros buy for there needs and we rarely buy the fun stuff. The freedom the hobbyist has I envy . Maybe it's time I buy my luxury item.
but seriously the sensor is the same as your A7Rii so the files won't hamper your workflow either Oct 23, 2015 at 11:22 AM
p.13 #4Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
That's exactly the key. I really lose no functionality or IQ and I can use all my strobe gear as well. Only thing is different batteries but not the biggest deal. One thing I noticed was size is really no bigger than my 35 1.4 maybe even smaller. So in a working scenario it's just fine as it can do all I need. It's the extra costs is something I have to figure out . What else is new. Lol
Oct 23, 2015 at 11:29 AM
p.13 #5Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
I know we are on the wrong thread but something I keep forgetting is the leaf shutter. That's very useful
Oct 23, 2015 at 02:31 PM
p.13 #7Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
I'm leaning toward this lens as a replacement for my 16-35 which I'm just not very happy with. I'll also be 100% primes if I make that switch!
May also get the CV 15 E Mount when it's out.
May also get the CV 15 E Mount when it's out.
Oct 25, 2015 at 10:20 AM
p.13 #8Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
It looks like next Zeiss Batis will be a 18mm per dpr post:
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3921842#forum-post-56731404
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3921842#forum-post-56731404
Nov 04, 2015 at 05:34 PM
p.13 #10Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Upscaled Touit 12/2.8 essentially? If so, that'll be good.
Nov 04, 2015 at 06:39 PM
p.13 #11Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
meh. i don't need more ultrawides, especially with autofocus.
zeiss should go 35/2, 50/1.2 (or f/1.4), 135/2 next imho...
18mm is a good focal length to fill out their combined range though if they have to make it an uwa.
zeiss should go 35/2, 50/1.2 (or f/1.4), 135/2 next imho...
18mm is a good focal length to fill out their combined range though if they have to make it an uwa.
Nov 04, 2015 at 07:52 PM
p.13 #12Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Always always people play the "but what I'd really like.." game.
So I will too.
I'd really like a 15; but not one which is compact at all costs (voigt) or very large because fastish (the ZM 2.8 or indeed the DSLR ones) but rather say an f4 or 3.5 or something which can be amazing one stop down without being massive...
Oh and my pet desire: a landscape oriented 180mm f4 which is both compact and super good (think updated Apo Lantar)
So I will too.
I'd really like a 15; but not one which is compact at all costs (voigt) or very large because fastish (the ZM 2.8 or indeed the DSLR ones) but rather say an f4 or 3.5 or something which can be amazing one stop down without being massive...
Oh and my pet desire: a landscape oriented 180mm f4 which is both compact and super good (think updated Apo Lantar)
Nov 04, 2015 at 07:59 PM
p.13 #13Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
DavidBM wrote:
Always always people play the "but what I'd really like.." game.
So I will too.
I'd really like a 15; but not one which is compact at all costs (voigt) or very large because fastish (the ZM 2.8 or indeed the DSLR ones) but rather say an f4 or 3.5 or something which can be amazing one stop down without being massive...
Oh and my pet desire: a landscape oriented 180mm f4 which is both compact and super good (think updated Apo Lantar)
A 15/2.8 is still a bread-and-butter for wide-field astro. A small one, like the ZM (still small in comparison to any DSLR lens), has many other applications as well. However, if Zeiss can do a 15/4 with super sharp corners with almost no field curvature, I'm down. Both the ZM and the current ZE/ZF corners are good, but not extremely sharp (mostly due to field curvature).
Always always people play the "but what I'd really like.." game.
So I will too.
I'd really like a 15; but not one which is compact at all costs (voigt) or very large because fastish (the ZM 2.8 or indeed the DSLR ones) but rather say an f4 or 3.5 or something which can be amazing one stop down without being massive...
Oh and my pet desire: a landscape oriented 180mm f4 which is both compact and super good (think updated Apo Lantar)
A 15/2.8 is still a bread-and-butter for wide-field astro. A small one, like the ZM (still small in comparison to any DSLR lens), has many other applications as well. However, if Zeiss can do a 15/4 with super sharp corners with almost no field curvature, I'm down. Both the ZM and the current ZE/ZF corners are good, but not extremely sharp (mostly due to field curvature).
Nov 04, 2015 at 08:15 PM
p.13 #14Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Looks like a great lens. The problem I always have with wide angle primes like this is - the 16-35 FE is great at 21. I'm sure the corners better on the 21/2.8. But if you don't need the stop ( I don't for landscapes) for an extra 100g, you have a lot more focal length coverage. Even the 21 + 28 FE would be more weight/volume than the 16-35. (again I'm thinking landscapes where the speed difference isn't important)
Anyway, too may decisions to make....
Chris
Anyway, too may decisions to make....
Chris
Nov 06, 2015 at 10:54 AM
p.13 #15Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Schlotkins wrote:
Looks like a great lens. The problem I always have with wide angle primes like this is - the 16-35 FE is great at 21. I'm sure the corners better on the 21/2.8. But if you don't need the stop ( I don't for landscapes) for an extra 100g, you have a lot more focal length coverage. Even the 21 + 28 FE would be more weight/volume than the 16-35. (again I'm thinking landscapes where the speed difference isn't important)
Anyway, too may decisions to make....
Chris
Yes, the 16-35/4 is great at 21mm so if you don't need the wider aperture, it may not be needed.
I see it differently though as I will be using the loxia 21/2.8 as my main landscape lens (If performance matches its MFT Graph). If the shot calls for a wider or narrower angle, I will use the zoom instead.
Looks like a great lens. The problem I always have with wide angle primes like this is - the 16-35 FE is great at 21. I'm sure the corners better on the 21/2.8. But if you don't need the stop ( I don't for landscapes) for an extra 100g, you have a lot more focal length coverage. Even the 21 + 28 FE would be more weight/volume than the 16-35. (again I'm thinking landscapes where the speed difference isn't important)
Anyway, too may decisions to make....
Chris
Yes, the 16-35/4 is great at 21mm so if you don't need the wider aperture, it may not be needed.
I see it differently though as I will be using the loxia 21/2.8 as my main landscape lens (If performance matches its MFT Graph). If the shot calls for a wider or narrower angle, I will use the zoom instead.
Nov 06, 2015 at 11:06 AM
p.13 #16Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Fred Miranda wrote:
Anyway, too may decisions to make....
ChrisYes, the 16-35/4 is great at 21mm so if you don't need the wider aperture, it may not be needed.
I see it differently though as I will be using the loxia 21/2.8 as my main landscape lens (If performance matches its MFT Graph). If the shot calls for a wider or narrower angle, I will use the zoom instead.
I look forward to seeing your comparison between the two.
Chris
Schlotkins wrote
Looks like a great lens. The problem I always have with wide angle primes like this is - the 16-35 FE is great at 21. I'm sure the corners better on the 21/2.8. But if you don't need the stop ( I don't for landscapes) for an extra 100g, you have a lot more focal length coverage. Even the 21 + 28 FE would be more weight/volume than the 16-35. (again I'm thinking landscapes where the speed difference isn't important)Anyway, too may decisions to make....
Chris
I see it differently though as I will be using the loxia 21/2.8 as my main landscape lens (If performance matches its MFT Graph). If the shot calls for a wider or narrower angle, I will use the zoom instead.
I look forward to seeing your comparison between the two.
Chris
Nov 06, 2015 at 11:07 AM
p.13 #17Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Fred, a friend and I were allowed to shoot the 21 for a couple of hours yesterday. We have no reasons to doubt the MTF, and the enthusiasm of the Zeiss team regarding its performance is genuine. You can find our blog post on it here Loxia 21 on DearSusan
Nov 06, 2015 at 11:16 AM
p.13 #18Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
If I shot the stock sensor my order would already be in
But I would check my copy carefully in the first week.
But I would check my copy carefully in the first week.
Nov 06, 2015 at 11:22 AM
p.13 #19Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
While wishing for other lenses from Zeiss, how about a Milvus version of the Loxia 21/2.8 to use on the D7200 as a "30mm" lens.
Nov 06, 2015 at 12:09 PM
p.13 #20Zeiss Unveils the Loxia 21mm f/2.8
Not going to happen, because one is designed for mirrorless (short flange distance), while the other has a mirror box and a considerably larger flange distance. The best you could hope for is the C/Y D21. 
Nov 06, 2015 at 03:17 PM