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p.7 #1 · Announced: Sony A7R II


onaujee wrote:
I wouldn't sell the a7r for such a low price... I'd keep it as a backup....


+1. That's what I will be doing in case I decide to upgrade later, too.



Jun 10, 2015 at 02:02 PM
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p.7 #2 · Announced: Sony A7R II


riotshield wrote:
With all the components this looks like a power hog. The NP-FW50 was OK in the NEX days but when I owned the A7 it drained batteries like no other recent camera and it seemed the battery was woefully underpowered. It makes me wonder what the shots-per-charge rating on this is going to be.

Other than that and the uncompressed RAW question mark, it looks amazing.


Last thing Im worried about is battery life . Just carry 6 of them. There small.




Jun 10, 2015 at 02:04 PM
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p.7 #3 · Announced: Sony A7R II


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They have listened to every complaint.



No mention of whether or not the files are still 11-bit compressed JRAW format, or if they have done anything to improve the (in)accuracy of their focus peaking... or improve the battery life...



Jun 10, 2015 at 02:04 PM
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p.7 #4 · Announced: Sony A7R II


My A7II will most likely go on the block. My A7r was already sold


Jun 10, 2015 at 02:04 PM
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p.7 #5 · Announced: Sony A7R II


As a Nikon D750 owner, I'm confused.

The A7R was 14 oz.

The A7 II was 21 oz.

The A7R II is 22 oz.

A D750 is 26 oz. (And megapixels don't weigh anything, of course.)

A Sony NP-FW50 battery stinks so much, you have to carry 3-4 for every one Nikon EN-EL15.

Clearly, as Sony attempts to step up the build quality of their camera bodies, they're rapidly losing the biggest advantage that has always been at the top of *MY* list of reasons to show any interest: weight savings.

As an adventure / landscape photographer, my priorities have always been (in no particular order) ruggedness, image quality, and portability. Oh, and affordability is great, too.

Those last two are important for reasons other than me being a sissy, or being cheap, BTW. I recorded a video about that here:



(TLDR; if a system is light and affordable enough, I can carry 2-3 camera systems into the wilderness for timelapse and astro-landscape photography.)

As far as I have seen, full-frame mirrorless has been a mixed bag in almost every of these categories.

Image quality has been incredible, yes, but then again as a Nikon user I have access to the D810, D750, and Df.

Build quality and general performance / interface has been much complained about, by those folks who really push the envelope or abuse their gear.

Price has been all across the board too, with bodies being relatively affordable but the (good) lenses being incredibly expensive. They're incredible performers, yes, but then again so are Sigma Art and Roki-Bow-Yang lenses....and they cost 1/2 or 1/4 the price. For an astro-landscape photographer, honestly even a traditional landscape shooter, Rokinon and Sigma make the best choice.

Body weight has been ever-increasing, as I just pointed out. And Sony has a handful of high-end lenses that are even heavier than their DSLR competition, including the new 55 1.8, and the 70-200 f/4.

All in all, it depends on how you plan to use your camera, and it depends on what you currently own. There are many advantages offered by the Sony sensors, and the mirrorless system, however for what I do and as a Nikon user, I'm feeling downright underwhelmed by this announcement.

I'm officially done caring about Sony's full-frame mirrorless system. I'm much more interested in what Pentax is doing now. :-)



Jun 10, 2015 at 02:05 PM
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p.7 #6 · Announced: Sony A7R II


If only AF could be usable with metabones and EF lenses ! I would drop my Canon bodies. But I only use Canon lenses and won't change that soon, they are so great on high res high DR sensor !! Can't wait to see this tested !


Jun 10, 2015 at 02:06 PM
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p.7 #7 · Announced: Sony A7R II


GMPhotography wrote:
Okay this is the Same body as the A7II. It takes the exact same vertical grip.

yes

http://www.sony.net/Products/diacc/systemchart/en-gb/index.html?area=US#ilc



Jun 10, 2015 at 02:09 PM
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p.7 #8 · Announced: Sony A7R II


matthewsaville wrote:
As a Nikon D750 owner, I'm confused.

The A7R was 14 oz.

The A7 II was 21 oz.

The A7R II is 22 oz.

A D750 is 26 oz. (And megapixels don't weigh anything, of course.)

A Sony NP-FW50 battery stinks so much, you have to carry 3-4 for every one Nikon EN-EL15.

Clearly, as Sony attempts to step up the build quality of their camera bodies, they're rapidly losing the biggest advantage that has always been at the top of *MY* list of reasons to show any interest: weight savings.

As an adventure / landscape photographer, my priorities have always been (in no particular order) ruggedness,
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I think the takeaway is that Sony believes the long-term value of the A7 system is not necessarily its extreme small size or weight but its technology and profit margins.



Jun 10, 2015 at 02:09 PM
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p.7 #9 · Announced: Sony A7R II


I somewhat agree with you Matt. Except I'm on the Canon side of the house so I don't have access to great Sony sensors. Sure, I could move to Nikon, but there are some canon lenses I just cant get there. (i.e. 17 TSE).

Anyway, my hope is somehow the metabones EF AF can be faster with this body. I'll keep a couple sony mount lenses around.

Chris



Jun 10, 2015 at 02:09 PM
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p.7 #10 · Announced: Sony A7R II


The specs show a minimus shutter speed of 30s. I assume a much longer exposure can still be taken - correct?


Jun 10, 2015 at 02:17 PM
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p.7 #11 · Announced: Sony A7R II


My order is in. My A7R will become my backup, an I'll be giving away my NEX 7, which is pretty valueless by now.


Jun 10, 2015 at 02:19 PM
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p.7 #12 · Announced: Sony A7R II


matthewsaville wrote:
As a Nikon D750 owner, I'm confused.

The A7R was 14 oz.

The A7 II was 21 oz.

The A7R II is 22 oz.

A D750 is 26 oz. (And megapixels don't weigh anything, of course.)

A Sony NP-FW50 battery stinks so much, you have to carry 3-4 for every one Nikon EN-EL15.

Clearly, as Sony attempts to step up the build quality of their camera bodies, they're rapidly losing the biggest advantage that has always been at the top of *MY* list of reasons to show any interest: weight savings.

As an adventure / landscape photographer, my priorities have always been (in no particular order) ruggedness,
...Show more

Interesting observations. I'm one who only considers the smaller prime lenses for my A7R, more for the overall size than the weight. I can easily carry a kit like that next to my MFT or Canon bird photography setup if I want more MP or full frame.

The weight bothers me a bit, but the price bothers me more. At $3200, that's a lot of money for what would be my secondary system.



Jun 10, 2015 at 02:20 PM
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p.7 #13 · Announced: Sony A7R II


Gary Clennan wrote:
The specs show a minimus shutter speed of 30s. I assume a much longer exposure can still be taken - correct?


I wouldnt think theyd be dropping the bulb mode for any release.



Jun 10, 2015 at 02:20 PM
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p.7 #14 · Announced: Sony A7R II


Enhanced Eye AF

Now also available in AF-C focus mode, Eye AF automatically detects and tracks an eye of even a moving subject, for more framing freedom.


Yes!!!



Jun 10, 2015 at 02:21 PM
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p.7 #15 · Announced: Sony A7R II


matthewsaville wrote:
As a Nikon D750 owner, I'm confused.

The A7R was 14 oz.

The A7 II was 21 oz.

The A7R II is 22 oz.

A D750 is 26 oz. (And megapixels don't weigh anything, of course.)

A Sony NP-FW50 battery stinks so much, you have to carry 3-4 for every one Nikon EN-EL15.



That's one of the reasons I ended up selling my A7 II - it had to have the battery grip attached, to make it hand-holdable and to get acceptable battery life - but that made it a lot heavier than any of my DSLR cameras.





Jun 10, 2015 at 02:21 PM
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p.7 #16 · Announced: Sony A7R II


johnvanr wrote:
The weight bothers me a bit, but the price bothers me more. At $3200, that's a lot of money for what would be my secondary system.


That's the easiest problem to fix, especially with Sony - just wait 8 months.



Jun 10, 2015 at 02:22 PM
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p.7 #17 · Announced: Sony A7R II


johnvanr wrote:
Interesting observations. I'm one who only considers the smaller prime lenses for my A7R, more for the overall size than the weight. I can easily carry a kit like that next to my MFT or Canon bird photography setup if I want more MP or full frame.

The weight bothers me a bit, but the price bothers me more. At $3200, that's a lot of money for what would be my secondary system.


cant we all wait 6 months and it will be around $2000. After all, it is sony.


Anyhow, no love for RX10 II? That baby is really getting my attention now. I am always more attracted to fixed lens systems. Maybe RX10 to accompany the RX1?



Jun 10, 2015 at 02:23 PM
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p.7 #18 · Announced: Sony A7R II


ecarlino wrote:
That's the easiest problem to fix, especially with Sony - just wait 8 months.



Beat me to it haha



Jun 10, 2015 at 02:24 PM
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p.7 #19 · Announced: Sony A7R II


can't wait till a few samples get out. I really want to see how it works with rangefinder glass. I'm sure someone else said this same thing


Jun 10, 2015 at 02:26 PM
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p.7 #20 · Announced: Sony A7R II


Gary Clennan wrote:
The specs show a minimus shutter speed of 30s. I assume a much longer exposure can still be taken - correct?


Shouldn't be a problem, you just need a cable release and bulb mode just like pretty much every other camera. I don't think there are that many digital cameras that have shutter speeds longer than 30 seconds, maybe just a handful at best, correct me if I'm wrong though.



Jun 10, 2015 at 02:28 PM
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