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Archive 2014 · Show Your Best Nikon Dog Shots part 2

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p.54 #1 · Show Your Best Nikon Dog Shots part 2

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We said goodbye to one of my dog best friend yesterday. His name was Tyrael and was so nice and funny Malamute. Unfortunatly somehow craft clitter entered his eye over a year a go and made damage to the eye. It started in one eye but somehow got into his other eye too.

All was done to try to save his eyes but the final option was to remove them but the owners were sure he could not cope with it so he was euthanized yesterday. He was only 4 years old.

So watch out for these craft...Show more →

Rest in peace, Tyrael. A wonderful character by the looks of it, and a beautiful Malamute in all respects. I really do have a weak spot for nordic dogs.

May 14, 2017 at 02:42 PM

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p.54 #2 · Show Your Best Nikon Dog Shots part 2

Ken, energy levels is one thing. My girlfriend owns two belgian shephard dogs. Amy is 6 years old and Lumi is 3. Both have similar energy levels, but they both have so much energy that it still is more then a handful to handle them both. Before she had Lumi, my girlfriend had a 13 year old Cocker Spaniel together with Amy. They could not have been more different, but they got along better then Lumi and Amy do.

(I wouldn't say both do not get along, but in their eager and competition, they do occasionally overdo it, and we need to give one of them a ball or a toy to prevent a fight between the two)

Even though we do enjoy hikes on which we bring both dogs, we do also occasionally just bring one of the two. Yesterday Lumi came along

DSC_9960 by b j, on Flickr

DSC_0001-Edit-Edit by b j, on Flickr

DSC_9952-Edit-PS by b j, on Flickr

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May 14, 2017 at 02:50 PM

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p.54 #3 · Show Your Best Nikon Dog Shots part 2

Rest in peace, Tyrael. A wonderful character by the looks of it, and a beautiful Malamute in all respects. I really do have a weak spot for nordic dogs.

He sure was.

He will always be remembered. <3

May 14, 2017 at 06:55 PM

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p.54 #4 · Show Your Best Nikon Dog Shots part 2

the solitaire wrote:
Ken, energy levels is one thing. My girlfriend owns two belgian shephard dogs. Amy is 6 years old and Lumi is 3. Both have similar energy levels, but they both have so much energy that it still is more then a handful to handle them both. Before she had Lumi, my girlfriend had a 13 year old Cocker Spaniel together with Amy. They could not have been more different, but they got along better then Lumi and Amy do.

(I wouldn't say both do not get along, but in their eager and competition, they do occasionally overdo it, and we...Show more →

Maybe because they are both females and of same/similar size?

My dog, Venus, is more welcoming to boys than females, one of the foster was an female and Venus just hated her but we managed to turn it around in just over a week and then they were best of friends. Unfortunatly she had a spreading cancer and we had to let her go, she was an older dog and we probably would have kept her because she was so nice dog but that was not to be.

All people I know which have multiple dogs talk about the importance of solo time with each dog, it makes the bond stronger between each dog and its owner and makes more relaxing family environment. At least most of the time.

Of course some arguments are bound to happen just like with the humans in the family.

May 14, 2017 at 07:03 PM

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p.54 #5 · Show Your Best Nikon Dog Shots part 2

I agree with you for the most part,IF YOU show leadership(which they thrive on),then there won't be any issues. The lack of is where soooo many go wrong and they can't control the dogs. Giving them a ball,well,who is controlling who

Think about it. You step into them with your chest out and give them the sit command firmly with a growl. That doesn't work,then YOU bite,this is with your fingers pointing towards them and nail them in the shoulder,firmly. you ARE NOT hitting them,this is what an alpha does,they nip and give a shake,no harm done. BE THE PACK LEADER!!!

May 14, 2017 at 08:29 PM

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p.54 #6 · Show Your Best Nikon Dog Shots part 2

gonna add a bit here if that's ok,remember these words and live by them,CALM BUT ASSERTIVE. What I wrote above still goes,but use the "bite" at the last resort,it does work btw. Solitare,again who is in control

May 14, 2017 at 09:34 PM

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p.54 #7 · Show Your Best Nikon Dog Shots part 2

Hi Solitaire,

I agree with you. I probably should have qualified the energy statement by adding that while energy levels of dogs are important for dogs getting along, the owners should also understand what they themselves can tolerate so as to create and sustain a happy living environment. Many things go into picking a dog that transcend the initial moment and should be considered for long term consequences. The best thing is for anyone considering a first or second dog, or more, is to really understand what kind of dog they want that fits their lifestyle and personality and then figure out if that will mesh with the second dog or rest of the pack. Many reputable breeders will let a prospective owner take a pup or dog home for a trial visit and welcome a return should it not work out. This is good for both the dogs and people.

It is apparent there are a ton of dog lovers on FM as evidenced by the images and stories in the many pages of the thread. It is a thread I check every time I sign in to see if there are new images being shared. Many thanks to all who share on this thread.

Ken

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May 15, 2017 at 08:50 AM

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p.54 #8 · Show Your Best Nikon Dog Shots part 2

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My house is calm,there is no second,it's me,period,hence zero issues,I am the leader,no issues. And I never have had to use the "bite".

I agree Robert,

Our house is calm too, dogs know who the pack leader is because one big lesson I learned while learning to train is that the trainer needs to think like the mother dog does. She does the social adjusting and lesson teaching to unschooled puppies just like you described. In addition, there is so much more she does just by body language and movement that is fascinating to observe. For instance, one can keep a puppy or dog from getting up on furniture, (just one example), by simply blocking them from accessing the chair or sofa. Just standing in their way, moving with them when they try to move around you will get the point home. Facing them while doing this and standing up tall will show who the alpha is. A less aggressive approach is to have your back to them and do the same thing. This is for lesser directions. Watch a female work her pups and all sorts of clues will become apparent. All this is done with no 'attitude' on the trainers part. Dogs will accept it as the new norm after a while. Dogs just want to be lead and loved and exercised. Pretty simple.

May 15, 2017 at 09:01 AM

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p.54 #9 · Show Your Best Nikon Dog Shots part 2

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gonna add a bit here if that's ok,remember these words and live by them,CALM BUT ASSERTIVE. What I wrote above still goes,but use the "bite" at the last resort,it does work btw. Solitare,again who is in control

I say not you!!!! You stop the behaviors before it escalates,be the alpha. Giving the ball is only rewarding the unwanted behavior,stop them before it gets that point,make them sit,whatever,place the attention on you,but stay calm,but assertive. IT WORKS

My house is calm,there is no second,it's me,period,hence zero issues,I am the leader,no issues. And I never have had to use the "bite"....Show more →

Robert, I thank you for the well meant advise,but I think there is abit of a misunderstanding here. There is no need whatsoever for the behaviour you are advising in the situation I described.

What happens is that both dogs, in their eager to be the first to please get a bit ahead of themselves and then this happens:

DSC_5297 by Amy Lumi, on Flickr

DSC_3423 by Amy Lumi, on Flickr

In itself, clear communication and nothing un-doggedly about it, but rather then verbally picking the dogs apart, like you advise, we prefer to send them off with a ball or rope or leash and do not have to worry about having to assert ourselves in such situations. What we are aiming at is that our dogs can behave like dogs, and that we can enjoy them.

As far as control goes, dogs are not stupid. They fully realise humans are not dogs. They do also realise you are not female (going by your name here so correct me if I am mistaken) and they also know for a fact that you are not the pack leader, because you are not part of the pack. Do not try to be something you are not. Instead, I do agree on being clear in your intention and intend (not expect. That's hoping. You need to know. That's the trick) to have your dogs behave when you're around.

I could write a lot about the differences between training dogs and living in mutual respect with dogs, but I do believe that all this started with a misunderstanding, so I think that we're persueing the same goals here, but use different wording to descibe what we want and do.

Here is a little video of Amy doing her best to impress my girlfriend

May 15, 2017 at 09:18 AM

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p.54 #10 · Show Your Best Nikon Dog Shots part 2

Rain. D5, 70-200VR, &TC14EII

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-Z5jzwj4/0/36e1c98d/XL/i-Z5jzwj4-XL.jpg

May 15, 2017 at 09:28 AM

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p.54 #11 · Show Your Best Nikon Dog Shots part 2

RKnecht wrote:
Rain. D5, 70-200VR, &TC14EII

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-Z5jzwj4/0/36e1c98d/XL/i-Z5jzwj4-XL.jpg

Focal plane is on the shoulder, but under those conditions, still a nice shot.

EDIT:: Personal thoughts on editing, I would have gone for a very slighly cooler WB and desaturated the reds just a little

May 15, 2017 at 09:33 AM

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p.54 #12 · Show Your Best Nikon Dog Shots part 2

the solitaire wrote:
Robert, I thank you for the well meant advise,but I think there is abit of a misunderstanding here. There is no need whatsoever for the behaviour you are advising in the situation I described.

What happens is that both dogs, in their eager to be the first to please get a bit ahead of themselves and then this happens:

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/709/32295269426_b229307ff8_b.jpg DSC_5297 by Amy Lumi, on Flickr

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4174/34069730220_701e455eda_b.jpg DSC_3423 by Amy Lumi, on Flickr

In itself, clear communication and nothing un-doggedly about it, but rather then verbally picking the dogs apart, like you advise, we prefer to send them off with a ball or rope or...Show more →

Buddy,
Absolutely loved the videos! Thanks for sharing them. It's clear to see the love and bond you both have with Amy and Lumi, much the same that I have for my Golden Retriever, Bene.
Best wishes, Don.

May 15, 2017 at 12:12 PM

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p.54 #13 · Show Your Best Nikon Dog Shots part 2

the solitaire wrote:
Robert, I thank you for the well meant advise,but I think there is abit of a misunderstanding here. There is no need whatsoever for the behaviour you are advising in the situation I described.

What happens is that both dogs, in their eager to be the first to please get a bit ahead of themselves and then this happens:

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/709/32295269426_b229307ff8_b.jpg DSC_5297 by Amy Lumi, on Flickr

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4174/34069730220_701e455eda_b.jpg DSC_3423 by Amy Lumi, on Flickr

In itself, clear communication and nothing un-doggedly about it, but rather then verbally picking the dogs apart, like you advise, we prefer to send them off with a ball or rope or...Show more →

Great videos Buddy. What type of frisbee are you using?

Thanks,
Corey

May 15, 2017 at 12:27 PM

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p.54 #14 · Show Your Best Nikon Dog Shots part 2

ooooooooooooookkkkk whatever you say Amy

May 15, 2017 at 01:12 PM

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p.54 #15 · Show Your Best Nikon Dog Shots part 2

Corey, we use quite a few different frisbees, but the emphasis when buying new frisbees is that they are made of soft rubber or a similar material, and of course that they fly well. We have some pretty big pet shops around here, where we can pick up a few frisbees, throw them down the aisles a few times, and then decide which ones we buy

We tried the Kong Flyer Extreme in 9,5" which was quite nice, but never really straightened out (they are folded double in the packaging). They are also black and can be difficult to find back, especially after it sunk in a creek or pond

The Aerobie Dogobie (I wonder who comes up with these names) was a bit light, which is ok normally, but becomes tricky when it's a bit windy. It always seems to be windy here in the flatland

Our longest surviving frisbee is one with Dog-O-Soar printed on it. We once bought 3 of these, but again lost a few over the years

One frisbee my girlfriend truly liked, and Amy loved was from a brand called Chuckit. The model is called Paraflight. It has a woven nylon top layer, a rubber or latex bottom and a soft border which seems to have a kind of low density foam in it. It flies great, is brightly colored (blue on the top, orange below) and it floats. Unfortunately the rubber layer dissolves after a few years and the frisbee then sticks to whatever it touches. We now have a backseat in our car covered in orange rubber patches that won't come off. Still, a great frisbee, so we'll keep it in consideration when we go out to buy more.

May 15, 2017 at 01:42 PM

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p.54 #16 · Show Your Best Nikon Dog Shots part 2

Awsome videos!

Did you teach the exercise on the second video by having really small circle and then enlarge it?

It was also impressive self control in the first video when the frisbee was throwed away and then ask for turn and lay around that "placement marker" and then award with another frisbee.

May 15, 2017 at 05:46 PM

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p.54 #17 · Show Your Best Nikon Dog Shots part 2

My girl taking a sip.

29april_Venus&Kotlugengi-Patterson_077 by Stef�n Kristinsson, on Flickr

One of her good friend Skuggi (eng: Shadow)

29april_Venus&Kotlugengi-Patterson_126 by Stef�n Kristinsson, on Flickr

Both taken with Sigma 150mm (at f/4,5 and f/4).

May 15, 2017 at 05:58 PM

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p.54 #18 · Show Your Best Nikon Dog Shots part 2

Thank you Stefan. The circle is just set up as we find space. The trick with Amy is to abort the excersize as soon as she steps inside the circle, tell her to stay out, and continue the excersize. As you can see, she does occasionally cross the biundary of the circle, and my girlfriend reacts to that. For Amy this works real well as it requires an amount of cooperation, obedience and she has a lot of fun doing this.

Working with several frisbees is also going along similar lines where coordination, obedience and attention is required. Having Amy chase a ball or stick just does not suffise because she will be tired physically but her mental capacity would be completely ignored. Of course that doesn't mean we don't do that sort of thing, but we use those means as a cooldown after a more mentally challenging task. I will share a further video when I get back home

falconbach wrote:
Awsome videos!

Did you teach the exercise on the second video by having really small circle and then enlarge it?

It was also impressive self control in the first video when the frisbee was throwed away and then ask for turn and lay around that "placement marker" and then award with another frisbee.

May 16, 2017 at 04:17 AM

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p.54 #19 · Show Your Best Nikon Dog Shots part 2


	Momo in B&W by S F, on Flickr

May 16, 2017 at 04:48 AM

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p.54 #20 · Show Your Best Nikon Dog Shots part 2

Back home.

Kristina decided to show how she taught Amy to walk around that circle.
There are a few things that do help when starting out.
1) Set up the circle at the dogs shoulder height
2) start with the dog really close, and use something to motivate. Snack or toy would be good.
3) Start out real close to your dog, and only increase the distance once you notice your dogs confidence growing
4) If your dog makes a mistake, stop the exercise, set up the dog in it's initial position and restart
5) Try not to carry your child when training dogs. It really limits your movement which makes responding to the situation a bit more difficult

The video below will most likely illustrate this a bit better. This was the first time Lumi did this exercise

And here is another nice exercise Amy likes

May 16, 2017 at 03:34 PM

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