Archive 2014 · Through Walter Mandler Glass (on FF Only)
p.23 #1Through Walter Mandler Glass (on FF Only)
rscheffler wrote:
Last week's Southern Ontario ice storm aftermath as seen by the APO-Telyt 180/3.4:
http://ronscheffler.com/samples/fmm9-2016/20160325/20160325_0324.jpg
http://ronscheffler.com/samples/fmm9-2016/20160325/20160325_0328.jpg
http://ronscheffler.com/samples/fmm9-2016/20160325/20160325_0332.jpg
http://ronscheffler.com/samples/fmm9-2016/20160325/20160325_0333.jpg
http://ronscheffler.com/samples/fmm9-2016/20160325/20160325_0335.jpg
http://ronscheffler.com/samples/fmm9-2016/20160325/20160325_0341.jpg
Shot on the M240 hand held and wide open at what is apparently the weakest area for this lens - near MFD work. Would have really appreciated IBIS to aid with steadying the image so I could focus at 10x magnification.
But still managed and didn't have many notable focus misses. Impressed with this lens's handling of 'bokeh CA', or the lack of it. Definitely saw it in my 90AA-M images, as with the 50 Lux ASPH-M (which apparently Peter Karbe considers an APO, too) from the...Show more →
Hi Ron,
If I do not need my Leica R 280mm f4 Apo Telyt or longer, my 180mm f3.4 Apo Telyt is still my go to lens (even after more than 30 years) for a focal length longer than either my M 90mm f2.5 Summarit or my R 100mm f2.8 Apo-Macro-Elmarit.
Rich
Last week's Southern Ontario ice storm aftermath as seen by the APO-Telyt 180/3.4:
http://ronscheffler.com/samples/fmm9-2016/20160325/20160325_0324.jpg
http://ronscheffler.com/samples/fmm9-2016/20160325/20160325_0328.jpg
http://ronscheffler.com/samples/fmm9-2016/20160325/20160325_0332.jpg
http://ronscheffler.com/samples/fmm9-2016/20160325/20160325_0333.jpg
http://ronscheffler.com/samples/fmm9-2016/20160325/20160325_0335.jpg
http://ronscheffler.com/samples/fmm9-2016/20160325/20160325_0341.jpg
Shot on the M240 hand held and wide open at what is apparently the weakest area for this lens - near MFD work. Would have really appreciated IBIS to aid with steadying the image so I could focus at 10x magnification.
But still managed and didn't have many notable focus misses. Impressed with this lens's handling of 'bokeh CA', or the lack of it. Definitely saw it in my 90AA-M images, as with the 50 Lux ASPH-M (which apparently Peter Karbe considers an APO, too) from the...Show more →Hi Ron,
If I do not need my Leica R 280mm f4 Apo Telyt or longer, my 180mm f3.4 Apo Telyt is still my go to lens (even after more than 30 years) for a focal length longer than either my M 90mm f2.5 Summarit or my R 100mm f2.8 Apo-Macro-Elmarit.
Rich
May 24, 2016 at 07:26 AM
p.23 #3Through Walter Mandler Glass (on FF Only)
Some samples from my 2nd gen Summicron-R 50mm on my Canon 1Ds III
I absolutely love the sharpness, contrast and bokeh of this lens
not perfect against the sun, but contrast remains
I absolutely love the sharpness, contrast and bokeh of this lens
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Jun 19, 2016 at 01:42 PM
p.23 #4Through Walter Mandler Glass (on FF Only)
And some from the 90mm Summicron-R
softer than the 50mm, with a nice glow around the focal plane, but more contrast and saturation (the images with the 50mm were processed using Velvia 100F preses, couldn't do that with the 90mm samples)
Also, it handles flaring like a boss.
Weird little spot in my neighbourhood. There's a drop of maybe 20-30m through the forest to the river bed right behind that chair. No need for the shovel, I would say.
Has to endure a lot of green bokeh fringing (LoCA), but it works great against the sun
and the bokeh is spectacular, simply amazing
softer than the 50mm, with a nice glow around the focal plane, but more contrast and saturation (the images with the 50mm were processed using Velvia 100F preses, couldn't do that with the 90mm samples)
Also, it handles flaring like a boss.
Weird little spot in my neighbourhood. There's a drop of maybe 20-30m through the forest to the river bed right behind that chair. No need for the shovel, I would say.
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and the bokeh is spectacular, simply amazing
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Jun 19, 2016 at 01:45 PM
p.23 #5Through Walter Mandler Glass (on FF Only)
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Fête de la musique, Thuir, Leica-R 50 f/2 @ 2.4.
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Chess Contest, Leica-R 50 f/2 W.0.
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Barcelona, Leica-R 50 f/2 @ 2.8.
Jun 26, 2016 at 04:17 AM
p.23 #6Through Walter Mandler Glass (on FF Only)
Leica Summicron-R 90mm f/2 on Canon 1Ds III
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Sep 10, 2016 at 04:12 AM
p.23 #8Through Walter Mandler Glass (on FF Only)
Derek, Very nice from 35lux. I finally give up and order one from ebay. I decide still go with M3 version, I actually prefer 50 frame line with M and most importantly it can focus down to 0.65M instead of 1M regular version.
I paid more than 35 Zeiss distagon retail
Which version you have?
I paid more than 35 Zeiss distagon retail
Which version you have?
Sep 10, 2016 at 10:46 AM
p.23 #9Through Walter Mandler Glass (on FF Only)
zhangyue wrote:
Derek, Very nice from 35lux. I finally give up and order one from ebay. I decide still go with M3 version, I actually prefer 50 frame line with M and most importantly it can focus down to 0.65M instead of 1M regular version.
I paid more than 35 Zeiss distagon retail
Which version you have?
congrats! hope you like it. i'll be interested to hear what you think of it, especially compared to your old 8 element cron, do you still have that?
i'm using the second version, i think i would definitely prefer the goggled version on an m camera though (can you post a picture of it on your m3 and m9 when you get it?). seems like maybe the early version is made better too and i like the idea of a focus lock and actual filter threads...
fwiw i find i get a big bump in contrast with no real change in exposure (on an a7 at least) stopping down from f/1.4 to f/1.7. most of my portraits/narrow dof stuff is done at f/2. stopping down to f/5.6 seems enough for decent landscape sharpness except in the extreme corners.
a couple more crazy bokeh shots:
http://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1710/26048412702_40f8788642_o.jpg
http://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1684/26140882425_4516f74863_o.jpg
Derek, Very nice from 35lux. I finally give up and order one from ebay. I decide still go with M3 version, I actually prefer 50 frame line with M and most importantly it can focus down to 0.65M instead of 1M regular version.
I paid more than 35 Zeiss distagon retail
Which version you have?
congrats! hope you like it. i'll be interested to hear what you think of it, especially compared to your old 8 element cron, do you still have that?
i'm using the second version, i think i would definitely prefer the goggled version on an m camera though (can you post a picture of it on your m3 and m9 when you get it?). seems like maybe the early version is made better too and i like the idea of a focus lock and actual filter threads...
fwiw i find i get a big bump in contrast with no real change in exposure (on an a7 at least) stopping down from f/1.4 to f/1.7. most of my portraits/narrow dof stuff is done at f/2. stopping down to f/5.6 seems enough for decent landscape sharpness except in the extreme corners.
a couple more crazy bokeh shots:
http://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1710/26048412702_40f8788642_o.jpg
http://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1684/26140882425_4516f74863_o.jpg
Sep 10, 2016 at 11:39 AM
p.23 #10Through Walter Mandler Glass (on FF Only)
sebboh wrote:
I paid more than 35 Zeiss distagon retail
Which version you have?congrats! hope you like it. i'll be interested to hear what you think of it, especially compared to your old 8 element cron, do you still have that?
i'm using the second version, i think i would definitely prefer the goggled version on an m camera though (can you post a picture of it on your m3 and m9 when you get it?). seems like maybe the early version is made better too and i like the idea of a focus lock and actual filter threads...
fwiw i find i get a big bump in contrast with no real change in exposure...Show more →
Sadly, I sold my 35cron V1. At certain stage I feel I no longer need a M setup after get S. Apparently, I am wrong about that. Some Older lens I should never sell, especially Leica old stuff. Now days, people just no longer build lens old way. They all looks the same or similar to my eyes. Those M stuff can be used many more years after I pass away
I think both version of pre_ASPH having M3 version. I haven't got the lens yet, but I am sure I will update you a pic of lens itself with M and image it make The early version indeed has infinity lock and focus tab was made with Metal but seems some of M3 2nd version also have the lock and made by metal, so I am a little confuse here. It seems like there are many flavors of these lens floating around with mix and match material and color. most of 2nd version has a plastic tab and later serNo claim have better coating.
In term of look compare to 35cron, the lux seems have a lot more character even though they definitly have similarity. I heard people claim this lux is pretty much the same configuration of 7 element v4cron, only it open up one stop which is a stretch (very low contrast and lots of glow). Will see.
Mine is painted black one with brass goggle and metal tab and infinity lock. the seller claim it is 2nd version, but from Leica wiki based on serNO, it should be 1st version. I will see if it take filter or not.
After went through all kinds of lens myself. I find I develop a unpredictable taste about lens, some lens I just like seems for no reason like in this case 35lux, and my old 35cron 8 element. I must admit, handling and look also play role here. I feel it is natural for people seek beauty through VF.
Again, love above samples.
Since it is pic thread.
Here is one with 35cron R (I very much like its bokeh, most time smooth with water color painting, strong coma can make funky stuff around corner, but somehow still love it
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https://c6.staticflickr.com/9/8235/28953657453_63b1e293ed_b.jpg
zhangyue wrote
Derek, Very nice from 35lux. I finally give up and order one from ebay. I decide still go with M3 version, I actually prefer 50 frame line with M and most importantly it can focus down to 0.65M instead of 1M regular version.I paid more than 35 Zeiss distagon retail
Which version you have?
i'm using the second version, i think i would definitely prefer the goggled version on an m camera though (can you post a picture of it on your m3 and m9 when you get it?). seems like maybe the early version is made better too and i like the idea of a focus lock and actual filter threads...
fwiw i find i get a big bump in contrast with no real change in exposure...Show more →
Sadly, I sold my 35cron V1. At certain stage I feel I no longer need a M setup after get S. Apparently, I am wrong about that. Some Older lens I should never sell, especially Leica old stuff. Now days, people just no longer build lens old way. They all looks the same or similar to my eyes. Those M stuff can be used many more years after I pass away
I think both version of pre_ASPH having M3 version. I haven't got the lens yet, but I am sure I will update you a pic of lens itself with M and image it make
The early version indeed has infinity lock and focus tab was made with Metal but seems some of M3 2nd version also have the lock and made by metal, so I am a little confuse here. It seems like there are many flavors of these lens floating around with mix and match material and color. most of 2nd version has a plastic tab and later serNo claim have better coating. In term of look compare to 35cron, the lux seems have a lot more character even though they definitly have similarity. I heard people claim this lux is pretty much the same configuration of 7 element v4cron, only it open up one stop which is a stretch (very low contrast and lots of glow). Will see.
Mine is painted black one with brass goggle and metal tab and infinity lock. the seller claim it is 2nd version, but from Leica wiki based on serNO, it should be 1st version. I will see if it take filter or not.
After went through all kinds of lens myself. I find I develop a unpredictable taste about lens, some lens I just like seems for no reason like in this case 35lux, and my old 35cron 8 element. I must admit, handling and look also play role here. I feel it is natural for people seek beauty through VF.
Again, love above samples.
Since it is pic thread.
Here is one with 35cron R (I very much like its bokeh, most time smooth with water color painting, strong coma can make funky stuff around corner, but somehow still love it
)https://c6.staticflickr.com/9/8235/28953657453_63b1e293ed_b.jpg
Sep 10, 2016 at 12:04 PM
p.23 #11Through Walter Mandler Glass (on FF Only)
Got the lens, I absolutely love it. Handling is superb, smooth focusing ring with nice drag. The render WO is gorgeous. Best of part, it is tiny.
The lens is front focus on my M240 though, but I will live with it. IT is very easy to compensate it.
A few images. These was before I find out it is front focus. I think I still front focus in most those images but at longer distance, the DOF covers it better.
https://c7.staticflickr.com/9/8103/29565870006_1971448468_b.jpg
https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8235/29564900416_f9868dde32_b.jpg
https://c5.staticflickr.com/9/8050/29564904796_b70523bd61_b.jpg
https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8726/29565858736_615b9f49b4_b.jpg
https://c5.staticflickr.com/9/8050/29564904796_b70523bd61_b.jpg
Here is a iPhone shot of system, does it look beautiful
https://c7.staticflickr.com/9/8440/28986965574_16b00b2222_b.jpg
The sharpness WO is OK, definitely usable. I can image I will love it with BW and low light. I love those little glow, I think it looks very similar to Nikkor 35mm 1.4 AIS I had,(I should get that lens some day) but it is a leica and it is tiny.
Edit:
Here is one 100% crop after I figured it is front focus. I don't really need it is sharper than that for the way I use it.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8150/29578413496_c395d97ac4_b.jpg
And another sample
https://c3.staticflickr.com/9/8522/29578418626_6ac9fc3ab8_b.jpg
The lens is front focus on my M240 though, but I will live with it. IT is very easy to compensate it.
A few images. These was before I find out it is front focus. I think I still front focus in most those images but at longer distance, the DOF covers it better.
https://c7.staticflickr.com/9/8103/29565870006_1971448468_b.jpg
https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8235/29564900416_f9868dde32_b.jpg
https://c5.staticflickr.com/9/8050/29564904796_b70523bd61_b.jpg
https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8726/29565858736_615b9f49b4_b.jpg
https://c5.staticflickr.com/9/8050/29564904796_b70523bd61_b.jpg
Here is a iPhone shot of system, does it look beautiful
https://c7.staticflickr.com/9/8440/28986965574_16b00b2222_b.jpg
The sharpness WO is OK, definitely usable. I can image I will love it with BW and low light. I love those little glow, I think it looks very similar to Nikkor 35mm 1.4 AIS I had,(I should get that lens some day) but it is a leica and it is tiny.
Edit:
Here is one 100% crop after I figured it is front focus. I don't really need it is sharper than that for the way I use it.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8150/29578413496_c395d97ac4_b.jpg
And another sample
https://c3.staticflickr.com/9/8522/29578418626_6ac9fc3ab8_b.jpg
Sep 11, 2016 at 12:37 PM
p.23 #12Through Walter Mandler Glass (on FF Only)
zhangyue wrote:
Got the lens, I absolutely love it. Handling is superb, smooth focusing ring with nice drag. The render WO is gorgeous. Best of part, it is tiny.
glad you like it, i thought it would suite your style. i find using it and the resulting images much more satisfying than my more perfect lenses.
it really is quite sharp at f/1.4 even into the corners at mid distance, just low in contrast. i don't remember if i've shown this before on this thread, but here is a wide open shot:
http://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5576/14604961940_aebaaa656a_o.jpg
center crop:
http://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3836/14674041247_c7e04dbfff_o.jpg
and here is the lower left corner crop:
http://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3848/14860237242_e5614ca247_o.jpg
this seems amazing to me given the size and the fact that it is a 50+ year old design.
one thing to watch out for shooting at night is coma, point light sources can cause some seriously ugly effects at times.
Got the lens, I absolutely love it. Handling is superb, smooth focusing ring with nice drag. The render WO is gorgeous. Best of part, it is tiny.
glad you like it, i thought it would suite your style. i find using it and the resulting images much more satisfying than my more perfect lenses.
it really is quite sharp at f/1.4 even into the corners at mid distance, just low in contrast. i don't remember if i've shown this before on this thread, but here is a wide open shot:
http://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5576/14604961940_aebaaa656a_o.jpg
center crop:
http://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3836/14674041247_c7e04dbfff_o.jpg
and here is the lower left corner crop:
http://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3848/14860237242_e5614ca247_o.jpg
this seems amazing to me given the size and the fact that it is a 50+ year old design.
one thing to watch out for shooting at night is coma, point light sources can cause some seriously ugly effects at times.
Sep 11, 2016 at 02:14 PM
p.23 #13Through Walter Mandler Glass (on FF Only)
sebboh wrote:
glad you like it, i thought it would suite your style. i find using it and the resulting images much more satisfying than my more perfect lenses.
it really is quite sharp at f/1.4 even into the corners at mid distance, just low in contrast. i don't remember if i've shown this before on this thread, but here is a wide open shot:
http://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5576/14604961940_aebaaa656a_o.jpg
center crop:
http://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3836/14674041247_c7e04dbfff_o.jpg
and here is the lower left corner crop:
http://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3848/14860237242_e5614ca247_o.jpg
this seems amazing to me given the size and the fact that it is a 50+ year old design.
one thing to watch out for shooting at night is coma, point light...Show more →
True even stopped down. If you're shooting something with a row of lights that stretches across the frame, you get blob, blob, star, star, star, star, blob, blob. It's one of the reasons I started looking at alternative 35's for night shooting.
zhangyue wrote
Got the lens, I absolutely love it. Handling is superb, smooth focusing ring with nice drag. The render WO is gorgeous. Best of part, it is tiny.it really is quite sharp at f/1.4 even into the corners at mid distance, just low in contrast. i don't remember if i've shown this before on this thread, but here is a wide open shot:
http://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5576/14604961940_aebaaa656a_o.jpg
center crop:
http://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3836/14674041247_c7e04dbfff_o.jpg
and here is the lower left corner crop:
http://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3848/14860237242_e5614ca247_o.jpg
this seems amazing to me given the size and the fact that it is a 50+ year old design.
one thing to watch out for shooting at night is coma, point light...Show more →
True even stopped down. If you're shooting something with a row of lights that stretches across the frame, you get blob, blob, star, star, star, star, blob, blob. It's one of the reasons I started looking at alternative 35's for night shooting.
Sep 11, 2016 at 02:31 PM
p.23 #14Through Walter Mandler Glass (on FF Only)
Congrats Michael on Lux-M 35
Believe it or not, it was a companion choice (that or Cron-M35 v4) to my Zeiss 35D purchase
As Derek mentioned, it's s lens for your shooting style and I am looking forward to see your captures
'End of Summer'
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/20160911_0001-3_1600.jpg
Believe it or not, it was a companion choice (that or Cron-M35 v4) to my Zeiss 35D purchase
As Derek mentioned, it's s lens for your shooting style and I am looking forward to see your captures
'End of Summer'
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/20160911_0001-3_1600.jpg
Sep 11, 2016 at 05:50 PM
p.23 #16Through Walter Mandler Glass (on FF Only)
JaKo wrote:
Congrats Michael on Lux-M 35
Believe it or not, it was a companion choice (that or Cron-M35 v4) to my Zeiss 35D purchase
As Derek mentioned, it's s lens for your shooting style and I am looking forward to see your captures
'End of Summer'
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/20160911_0001-3_1600.jpg
You are right about I might need another 35mm. It is what leica M for. I will wait a little bit though. This one is all I need for the time being.
I took a few more capture today, the more I use it, the more I am in love, though I have to say I expect what I get, I did quite a few time research about it before make decision.
Let's keep this thread going strong. I love the idea of lens thread.
Congrats Michael on Lux-M 35
Believe it or not, it was a companion choice (that or Cron-M35 v4) to my Zeiss 35D purchase
As Derek mentioned, it's s lens for your shooting style and I am looking forward to see your captures
'End of Summer'
http://www.kozera.ca/photos/images/20160911_0001-3_1600.jpg
You are right about I might need another 35mm. It is what leica M for. I will wait a little bit though. This one is all I need for the time being.
I took a few more capture today, the more I use it, the more I am in love, though I have to say I expect what I get, I did quite a few time research about it before make decision.
Let's keep this thread going strong. I love the idea of lens thread.
Sep 11, 2016 at 11:16 PM
p.23 #17Through Walter Mandler Glass (on FF Only)
Despite what I wrote and think of Zeiss ZM 35D I still miss the less than technically perfect 35mm glass hence my craving for Cron-M 35 v4 or the Lux 35 you just got.
It's hard to get it in a decent shape for 'non-collector' price but I hope to scoop one sooner or later.
It's hard to get it in a decent shape for 'non-collector' price but I hope to scoop one sooner or later.
Sep 11, 2016 at 11:36 PM
p.23 #20Through Walter Mandler Glass (on FF Only)
Lovely images!
I take that is M90 summicron you mean?
sebboh wrote:
congrats greg! that lens is probably my favorite portrait lens ever.
JaKo wrote
RX(1) lens seems to be in its own world, unmatched; hopefully it won't be replicated into a single lens at anytime.in any event a couple more 90 cron shots:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8780/17696750658_b18b904373_o.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8808/17858221126_1fce005f59_o.jpg
Sep 26, 2016 at 07:23 AM