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Archive 2014Early Adopters - Tamron 150-600mm
p.25 #1Early Adopters - Tamron 150-600mm
Nice work Karl!
Definitely looks like this lens is capable of producing good results in the right person's hands.
It needs to be able to do the same with BIF. I have seen some good examples of same but most are struggling with moving targets.
Jim
Definitely looks like this lens is capable of producing good results in the right person's hands.
It needs to be able to do the same with BIF. I have seen some good examples of same but most are struggling with moving targets.
Jim
Jan 31, 2014 at 10:39 PM
p.25 #2Early Adopters - Tamron 150-600mm
Imagemaster wrote:
No idea why you are degrading your images with such high ISO's when you don't need shutter speeds that high.
Tony, & everyone else that chimed in with suggestions.
I'll try the lower ISO settings. I'm sure it'll help. Thanks for the advice. Maybe it'll be sunny some tomorrow and we'll be able to see the difference.
dsr1 wrote
I had some sun today so I got to try out my lens in good conditions . These are as good as I could get using a bean bag from my truck. All are heavely cropped with NR and light sharpening.Tony, & everyone else that chimed in with suggestions.
I'll try the lower ISO settings. I'm sure it'll help. Thanks for the advice. Maybe it'll be sunny some tomorrow and we'll be able to see the difference.
Feb 01, 2014 at 12:46 AM
p.25 #3Early Adopters - Tamron 150-600mm
Karl Witt wrote:
Here are a few from a brief shoot in light. I feel my copy needs a bit of MA but not an option on my 5D classic.
posting original shot and then cropped and processed as I normally would do
Karl
They're good shots but like you said without even testing MA it appears to be front focusing a little bit just looking at them on the screen. Too bad 5D classic doesn't offer that feature.
I'm glad my 5d mkII and 7D both offer the feature but the 5D mkIII offers it at both end of the zoom making it even better.
Here are a few from a brief shoot in light. I feel my copy needs a bit of MA but not an option on my 5D classic.
posting original shot and then cropped and processed as I normally would do
Karl
They're good shots but like you said without even testing MA it appears to be front focusing a little bit just looking at them on the screen. Too bad 5D classic doesn't offer that feature.
I'm glad my 5d mkII and 7D both offer the feature but the 5D mkIII offers it at both end of the zoom making it even better.
Feb 01, 2014 at 06:40 AM
p.25 #4Early Adopters - Tamron 150-600mm
dsr1 wrote:
I had some sun today so I got to try out my lens in good conditions . These are as good as I could get using a bean bag from my truck. All are heavely cropped with NR and light sharpening.
I'm amazed by the "subjective" quality, especially of the Yellowlegs.
At 90 yards / 270 feet I assume that bird would have been a miniscule "speck" on the sensor.
For such a degree of resizing, I'm surprised that even "that much" detail could be retrieved.
Leigh
www.leighwax.com
I had some sun today so I got to try out my lens in good conditions . These are as good as I could get using a bean bag from my truck. All are heavely cropped with NR and light sharpening.
I'm amazed by the "subjective" quality, especially of the Yellowlegs.
At 90 yards / 270 feet I assume that bird would have been a miniscule "speck" on the sensor.
For such a degree of resizing, I'm surprised that even "that much" detail could be retrieved.
Leigh
www.leighwax.com
Feb 01, 2014 at 09:01 AM
p.25 #5Early Adopters - Tamron 150-600mm
Here is the specific problem that I am having:
In AI Servo, the lens will not change focus in the 450-600mm range when I focus on something close then focus on something distant. In reverse, it will refocus. It does not matter in which position the focus-limiter is set. And the near subject I focus on is not closer than the MFD anyway. This problem occurs with both my 7D & 1D4.
It is going back to the retailer for a refund. Unfortunately, I will be out the return shipping cost.
Will I get another one? Maybe later, when I see better BIF series shots that are sharper. So far, I have only seen so-so shots of large birds in flight or soaring. I have yet to see any BIF shots of smaller, faster birds that I consider excellent shots. JMO
For static shots, I found the lens excellent.
In AI Servo, the lens will not change focus in the 450-600mm range when I focus on something close then focus on something distant. In reverse, it will refocus. It does not matter in which position the focus-limiter is set. And the near subject I focus on is not closer than the MFD anyway. This problem occurs with both my 7D & 1D4.
It is going back to the retailer for a refund. Unfortunately, I will be out the return shipping cost.
Will I get another one? Maybe later, when I see better BIF series shots that are sharper. So far, I have only seen so-so shots of large birds in flight or soaring. I have yet to see any BIF shots of smaller, faster birds that I consider excellent shots. JMO
For static shots, I found the lens excellent.
Feb 01, 2014 at 11:41 AM
p.25 #6Early Adopters - Tamron 150-600mm
I'm convinced that I've got a rotten egg. I set up my blind 10 yds from my feeder where there is a downed elm tree with lots of perches for birds to land on. Took about 150 shots and they all stink. I used a monopod, shot wide open and stopped down. Kept a fast shutter speed to avoid motion blur.
Not much detail in juncos or chickadees.
Sending it back.
Not much detail in juncos or chickadees.
Sending it back.
Feb 01, 2014 at 11:44 AM
p.25 #7Early Adopters - Tamron 150-600mm
JVthePT wrote:
I'm convinced that I've got a rotten egg. I set up my blind 10 yds from my feeder where there is a downed elm tree with lots of perches for birds to land on. Took about 150 shots and they all stink. I used a monopod, shot wide open and stopped down. Kept a fast shutter speed to avoid motion blur.
Not much detail in juncos or chickadees.
Sending it back.
That's unfortunate because it is just those types of shots that the lens should be very useful for. Can we see some samples with EXIF intact? Original size as well as your final crop? I'm still considering the lens as a lightweight option.
I'm convinced that I've got a rotten egg. I set up my blind 10 yds from my feeder where there is a downed elm tree with lots of perches for birds to land on. Took about 150 shots and they all stink. I used a monopod, shot wide open and stopped down. Kept a fast shutter speed to avoid motion blur.
Not much detail in juncos or chickadees.
Sending it back.
That's unfortunate because it is just those types of shots that the lens should be very useful for. Can we see some samples with EXIF intact? Original size as well as your final crop? I'm still considering the lens as a lightweight option.
Feb 01, 2014 at 11:51 AM
p.25 #8Early Adopters - Tamron 150-600mm
mitesh wrote:
Can we see some samples with EXIF intact? Original size as well as your final crop?
Ditto. This is a photography forum, and we like to see samples with EXIF.
Can we see some samples with EXIF intact? Original size as well as your final crop?
Ditto. This is a photography forum, and we like to see samples with EXIF.
Feb 01, 2014 at 11:55 AM
p.25 #9Early Adopters - Tamron 150-600mm
Sy Sez wrote:
I'm amazed by the "subjective" quality, especially of the Yellowlegs.
At 90 yards / 270 feet I assume that bird would have been a miniscule "speck" on the sensor.
For such a degree of resizing, I'm surprised that even "that much" detail could be retrieved.
Leigh
www.leighwax.com
Leigh,
Of course I'm guessing at the 90 yards but it was taken off a 40" high dam and at least 60-70 yards out from the dam. Like you said the bird was quite small in the view finder. I's funny that all the birds were behind the dam and I couldn't get any closer in my truck.
I when back to check and the long end of the crop was 2-1/4" out of a 11" image on my screen (quite drastic by my standards). The Helican Filter program does't give % of crop buy I think I'm pretty close on the 90 yards. I was supprised that it turned out as good as it did.
Maybe using the suggestions I've been given here and micro adjusting the lensI can do better. I'm not worried about BIF cause I shake to much to hand hold the lens for panning.
dsr1 wrote
I had some sun today so I got to try out my lens in good conditions . These are as good as I could get using a bean bag from my truck. All are heavely cropped with NR and light sharpening.At 90 yards / 270 feet I assume that bird would have been a miniscule "speck" on the sensor.
For such a degree of resizing, I'm surprised that even "that much" detail could be retrieved.
Leigh
www.leighwax.com
Leigh,
Of course I'm guessing at the 90 yards but it was taken off a 40" high dam and at least 60-70 yards out from the dam. Like you said the bird was quite small in the view finder. I's funny that all the birds were behind the dam and I couldn't get any closer in my truck.
I when back to check and the long end of the crop was 2-1/4" out of a 11" image on my screen (quite drastic by my standards). The Helican Filter program does't give % of crop buy I think I'm pretty close on the 90 yards. I was supprised that it turned out as good as it did.
Maybe using the suggestions I've been given here and micro adjusting the lensI can do better. I'm not worried about BIF cause I shake to much to hand hold the lens for panning.
Feb 01, 2014 at 12:09 PM
p.25 #10Early Adopters - Tamron 150-600mm
People call the 100-400 a "dust pump" i have not experienced that. but the tamron is already collecting some. Doesn't bother me, but i know it bothers some.
Feb 02, 2014 at 07:02 PM
p.25 #11Early Adopters - Tamron 150-600mm
big country wrote:
People call the 100-400 a "dust pump" i have not experienced that. but the tamron is already collecting some. Doesn't bother me, but i know it bothers some.
Jason, poor craftsmen tend to blame their tools.
"I've got dust in my lens", "My lens doesn't focus good", "My lens is too heavy", etc.
I say to them, practice some more, and if that doesn't work, try another photography type, such as landscape.
Edited on Feb 02, 2014 at 07:20 PM · View previous versions
People call the 100-400 a "dust pump" i have not experienced that. but the tamron is already collecting some. Doesn't bother me, but i know it bothers some.
Jason, poor craftsmen tend to blame their tools.
"I've got dust in my lens", "My lens doesn't focus good", "My lens is too heavy", etc.
I say to them, practice some more, and if that doesn't work, try another photography type, such as landscape.
Edited on Feb 02, 2014 at 07:20 PM · View previous versions
Feb 02, 2014 at 07:18 PM
p.25 #12Early Adopters - Tamron 150-600mm
big country wrote:
People call the 100-400 a "dust pump" i have not experienced that. but the tamron is already collecting some. Doesn't bother me, but i know it bothers some.
My ex co-worker, the one who got me started in photography many years ago, once related a story about a guy who drop his lens that resulted in damage to outside glass of the lens (small crack apparently). Apparently he was still able to use the lens, I'm assuming closer to wide open then not. How true that is I don't know. The moral is, that I doubt a little dust will render the lens useless. Now a ton of dust I don't know.
People call the 100-400 a "dust pump" i have not experienced that. but the tamron is already collecting some. Doesn't bother me, but i know it bothers some.
My ex co-worker, the one who got me started in photography many years ago, once related a story about a guy who drop his lens that resulted in damage to outside glass of the lens (small crack apparently). Apparently he was still able to use the lens, I'm assuming closer to wide open then not. How true that is I don't know. The moral is, that I doubt a little dust will render the lens useless. Now a ton of dust I don't know.
Feb 02, 2014 at 07:19 PM
p.25 #13Early Adopters - Tamron 150-600mm
Out the car window with VC turned on (nice to have VC when using the window to balance the lens).
Canon EOS 5D Mark III ,Tamron 150-600mm
1/640s f/9.0 at 600.0mm iso3200
Canon EOS 5D Mark III ,Tamron 150-600mm
1/640s f/9.0 at 600.0mm iso3200
Feb 02, 2014 at 09:44 PM
p.25 #15Early Adopters - Tamron 150-600mm
RCicala wrote:
Post is up. I don't think it adds a lot of new information, but does confirm some things that have been discussed;
http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2014/01/tamron-150-600-telezoom-shootout
thank you.
Scott
Post is up. I don't think it adds a lot of new information, but does confirm some things that have been discussed;
http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2014/01/tamron-150-600-telezoom-shootout
thank you.
Scott
Feb 02, 2014 at 10:26 PM
p.25 #16Early Adopters - Tamron 150-600mm
Another with the new Tami
Canon 5D3: 1/640, ISO400, F9, 75% of the original image.
Red-breasted Merganser by Photosequence, on Flickr
Canon 5D3: 1/640, ISO400, F9, 75% of the original image.
Red-breasted Merganser by Photosequence, on Flickr
Feb 03, 2014 at 01:21 AM
p.25 #17Early Adopters - Tamron 150-600mm
Went out yesterday with 1DMKIII, I too have an AF problem on continuous focus. A call to Tamron service confirms they are aware of the problem but strangely they did not experience it in field testing for them.
So, this will be most frustrating for those that can be using their lenses a lot right now. I will continue to work on my static results and will work with Lens Align, or FoCal to do a proper Micro Adjust. In my limited testing I think I have experienced inconsistent focus at the 600mm range. I plan on giving the lens a good work out with the FoCal by Reikan software to analyze better as well as test it on actual subjects.
I'm going to hang in here and be patient as well as understanding as long as Tamron shows me they are sincere in pursuing the problems I/we are experiencing and works with me and keeps me informed. It seems that they do NOT have direct access to Canon's technology on AF and they have to do a work around to make things work.
Karl
So, this will be most frustrating for those that can be using their lenses a lot right now. I will continue to work on my static results and will work with Lens Align, or FoCal to do a proper Micro Adjust. In my limited testing I think I have experienced inconsistent focus at the 600mm range. I plan on giving the lens a good work out with the FoCal by Reikan software to analyze better as well as test it on actual subjects.
I'm going to hang in here and be patient as well as understanding as long as Tamron shows me they are sincere in pursuing the problems I/we are experiencing and works with me and keeps me informed. It seems that they do NOT have direct access to Canon's technology on AF and they have to do a work around to make things work.
Karl
Feb 03, 2014 at 08:58 AM
p.25 #18Early Adopters - Tamron 150-600mm
Karl Witt wrote:
Went out yesterday with 1DMKIII, I too have an AF problem on continuous focus. A call to Tamron service confirms they are aware of the problem but strangely they did not experience it in field testing for them.
So, this will be most frustrating for those that can be using their lenses a lot right now. I will continue to work on my static results and will work with Lens Align, or FoCal to do a proper Micro Adjust. In my limited testing I think I have experienced inconsistent focus at the 600mm range. I plan on giving the lens...Show more →
Karl, it is strange that this wouldn't show up in their testing. Maybe their testing isn't as thorough as I would have presumed? However, it's good to read that Tamron is acknowledging there is a problem, rather than dodging and weaving. That's the first step to addressing it in a forthright manner.
Brian M.
Went out yesterday with 1DMKIII, I too have an AF problem on continuous focus. A call to Tamron service confirms they are aware of the problem but strangely they did not experience it in field testing for them.
So, this will be most frustrating for those that can be using their lenses a lot right now. I will continue to work on my static results and will work with Lens Align, or FoCal to do a proper Micro Adjust. In my limited testing I think I have experienced inconsistent focus at the 600mm range. I plan on giving the lens...Show more →
Karl, it is strange that this wouldn't show up in their testing. Maybe their testing isn't as thorough as I would have presumed? However, it's good to read that Tamron is acknowledging there is a problem, rather than dodging and weaving. That's the first step to addressing it in a forthright manner.
Brian M.
Feb 03, 2014 at 09:06 AM
p.25 #19Early Adopters - Tamron 150-600mm
big country wrote:
People call the 100-400 a "dust pump" i have not experienced that.
When I owned the 100-400, as I zoomed from 400mm to 100mm, I could notice air coming out of the battery compartment (20D).
The same happens with my current 28-300 and 5DMIII.
So "air pumps" they certainly are.
If they are dust pumps or not, well, I can't really tell because I never had problems with dust, either on the 100-400/20D combo or 28-300/5DMIII.
OMMV.
P.S.
sorry for the off-topic.
People call the 100-400 a "dust pump" i have not experienced that.
When I owned the 100-400, as I zoomed from 400mm to 100mm, I could notice air coming out of the battery compartment (20D).
The same happens with my current 28-300 and 5DMIII.
So "air pumps" they certainly are.
If they are dust pumps or not, well, I can't really tell because I never had problems with dust, either on the 100-400/20D combo or 28-300/5DMIII.
OMMV.
P.S.
sorry for the off-topic.
Feb 03, 2014 at 09:29 AM
p.25 #20Early Adopters - Tamron 150-600mm
Shot with 6D, 100% crop from two shots. (VC ON with tripod. It was working fine with 1/100s. Better than VC OFF)
1/100 f/8 iso6400
1/100 f/8 iso100
EDIT : I messed up PP, one satellite is missing. I'll fixe that.
EDIT 2 : Fixed
1/100 f/8 iso6400
1/100 f/8 iso100
EDIT : I messed up PP, one satellite is missing. I'll fixe that.
EDIT 2 : Fixed
Feb 03, 2014 at 01:18 PM