Sony FE Images Thread
p.2486 #1Sony FE Images Thread
Infrared (850nm) from Sleeping Bear National Lakeshore, N. Michigan. A7R with Canon 16-35/4.
sleeping bear grasses IR 1787 by Danny Burk, on Flickr
sleeping bear grasses IR 1787 by Danny Burk, on FlickrOct 19, 2017 at 11:59 AM
p.2486 #2Sony FE Images Thread
I really don't like 35mm lenses, I would prefer 28mm, actually really would like to see 28mm Loxia... On the other hand we are drowning to 35mm lenses, at least I'm...
Carl Zeiss Planar T* 2/35 G @ f/8.0, 1/125s, A7mkII @ ISO 200, OptoSigma SLB-50-4000PM
Carl Zeiss Biogon T* 2/35 ZM @ f/4.0, 1/200s, A7(Kolari v2) @ ISO 125, OptoSigma SLB-50-3000PM
Sony Distagon T* 1.4/35 FE @ f/5.6, 1/4s, A7R @ ISO 100, Hoya HD CIR-PL 72mm
Samuli
Carl Zeiss Planar T* 2/35 G @ f/8.0, 1/125s, A7mkII @ ISO 200, OptoSigma SLB-50-4000PM
Carl Zeiss Biogon T* 2/35 ZM @ f/4.0, 1/200s, A7(Kolari v2) @ ISO 125, OptoSigma SLB-50-3000PM
Sony Distagon T* 1.4/35 FE @ f/5.6, 1/4s, A7R @ ISO 100, Hoya HD CIR-PL 72mm
Samuli
Oct 19, 2017 at 11:59 AM
p.2486 #3Sony FE Images Thread
A few shots at the park of my daughter. All with A7R2 & Batis 85, which seems to get used quite a lot in my kit.
DSC01594 adobe_filtered-001 by Matt Ebersole, on Flickr
DSC01557 adobe_filtered-001 by Matt Ebersole, on Flickr
DSC01594 adobe_filtered-001 by Matt Ebersole, on FlickrDSC01557 adobe_filtered-001 by Matt Ebersole, on FlickrOct 19, 2017 at 12:15 PM
p.2486 #4Sony FE Images Thread
Samuli Vahonen wrote:
Carl Zeiss Planar T* 2/35 G @ f/8.0, 1/125s, A7mkII @ ISO 200, OptoSigma SLB-50-4000PM
Samuli
have you found that the 4m pcx is useful on the g35? i couldn't see any benefit from the 5m pcx on the lens.
also, are you not happy with the g28 pcx combo?
one shot with the cv 50/1.5 + kolari UT:
and a couple with the contax g21 + 5m pcx + kolari UT, i'm really liking this combo at medium distance and f/4-f/5.6:
Carl Zeiss Planar T* 2/35 G @ f/8.0, 1/125s, A7mkII @ ISO 200, OptoSigma SLB-50-4000PM
Samuli
have you found that the 4m pcx is useful on the g35? i couldn't see any benefit from the 5m pcx on the lens.
also, are you not happy with the g28 pcx combo?
one shot with the cv 50/1.5 + kolari UT:
and a couple with the contax g21 + 5m pcx + kolari UT, i'm really liking this combo at medium distance and f/4-f/5.6:
Oct 19, 2017 at 12:42 PM
p.2486 #5Sony FE Images Thread
No easy trail to this waterfall. 45 min's bushwhacking downhill swinging off laurel branches, slope 30-45 degrees. Going back next summer when the water is warmer to get to the other side for another angle.
Compression Falls by MedicineMan4040, on Flickr
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Compression Falls by MedicineMan4040, on FlickrEdited on Oct 19, 2017 at 05:42 PM · View previous versions
Oct 19, 2017 at 01:24 PM
p.2486 #6Sony FE Images Thread
AGeoJO wrote:
I thought this was your 100-400. Should of lied and said it was the 100-400, and I would have believed you. Fantastic shot.Thank you! Yes, the performance of that lens surprised me, too.
beautiful shot and title.Thank you!
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Here is another image of another bathing hummingbird taken with the same FE 70-300mm G lens. This lil' guy was perching on a fern frond a little further away from me. The entire frond with the hummer on top was swaying in the wind during the rain. I also took a video clip of the event; the experience was truly something else.
Back to the lens' aspect - I believe the GM 100-400mm is a better lens than the 70-300mm. And the Canon EF 400mm f/2.8 IS Mark...Show more →
Spectacular Joshua.
phuviano wrote
AGeoJO wrote
This hummingbird in Costa Rica was about to take a bath in the rain. There were 3-4 of them at that time and their excitement of the setting rain was palpable. I posted a similar image before but not this one. The lens was an FE 70-300mm G lens. Yes, it is a prosumer caliber lens but its performance is impressive.kevindar wrote
AGeoJO wrote
This hummingbird in Costa Rica was about to take a bath in the rain. There were 3-4 of them at that time and their excitement of the setting rain was palpable. I posted a similar image before but not this one. The lens was an FE 70-300mm G lens. Yes, it is a prosumer caliber lens but its performance is impressive._________________________
Here is another image of another bathing hummingbird taken with the same FE 70-300mm G lens. This lil' guy was perching on a fern frond a little further away from me. The entire frond with the hummer on top was swaying in the wind during the rain. I also took a video clip of the event; the experience was truly something else.
Back to the lens' aspect - I believe the GM 100-400mm is a better lens than the 70-300mm. And the Canon EF 400mm f/2.8 IS Mark...Show more →
Spectacular Joshua.
Oct 19, 2017 at 02:36 PM
p.2486 #7Sony FE Images Thread
sebboh wrote:
have you found that the 4m pcx is useful on the g35? i couldn't see any benefit from the 5m pcx on the lens.
Derek, no, it's bad lens; "the Zeiss Samuli didn't like". In my opinion 4000mm fixed boke the best; w/ 3000mm overall sharpness suffers but boke doesn't improve and 5000mm did not seem to do anything. Closing down 3 stops (=f/5.6) doesn't calm down the boke, but closing down the 4th stop (=f/8) it starts to work in boke area as well, but what's the point shooting boke shots f/8 with 35mm? For landscapes it might be OK, in Kolari v2 (no PCX) f/5.6 seems to be OK, but landscapes are so easy as DOF is so huge (why I never care about infinity testing, slanted horizons etc. as it tells nothing about the lens in real life use or it's rendering style - unless you are interested only infinity sharpness). Once again the real challenge is the medium distance boke shots, where this lens really sucks and produces ugliest boke I have ever seen any Zeiss lens to produce. I wrote short "review" some time ago; this thread 250 pages before - management summary; boke sucks, focal plane & rendering quite nice.
Based on MTF the field curvature it's bad even on film, so I would assume it's no use with UT camera as well for medium distance boke shooting?
sebboh wrote:
also, are you not happy with the g28 pcx combo?
Yes and no - landscapes and close-ups I like G28, or should I say love not just like... absolute the best 28mm I have for those use cases. But it's just too slow for my main use = medium distance boke shots. It needs to be closed f/4 or f/4.5 to get rid off harshness in boke and thicker DOF in corners (not field curvature, PCX will take care of that - too small lens barrel and lens elements). But as it's Biogon (=more symmetrical than most other designs), it still gives quite shallow DOF @ f/4-5.6 compared to any retrofocus designs. If I get the medium distance boke shots otherwise "right", then Hexacons in boke ruin it. For landscapes my only problem is that I can't see point investing A7r mkII camera just for backlit CMOS, as 24Mpix is enough for me, and in A7r mkII you mostly pay for the megapixels - the price of A7r mkII is still gigantic in Finland. And without backlit CMOS the color cast requires flat field plugin, which requires to use Lightroom - And I absolute hate LightRoom, and use it just for this plugin and strictly only for photos needing the plugin... So on some level I'm OK with G28, but with the few issues in back of my head tend to remove the joy from shooting, and therefore killing creativity. I like challenges, but "more boring and awful work on post processing" or "issues which can't be resolved by skill and technique" are not inspiring challenges for me. I'm enough masochist to be OK with G-FE adapter focusing, if everything else would work.
I think I need f/2 or faster 28mm lens (with 9 aperture blades), so it would be real life usable ~f/3.2. Lens manufacturers always skrew up and make the lens barrel and lens elements too small, so that quality boke is available in best lenses after closing 1-1.5 stops, and crappier lenses after closing 2-3 stops. I have tried also C/Y 2.8/28 and Leica-R 28mkII, which both are not on level of G28 in my use. I even tried Sony FE28 and hated every second with it, rendering style is not for me. Also in PCX thread people tried to get Voigtlander 2/28 to works, but it seems to have rather ugly boke and PCX really didn't work either.
ZE-series Distagon 28 is the best "fast" 28 I have, but even with Kolari v2 (or Canon 5DmkII, which is similar to Kolari v2) the corners focus much further than the center making the lens not useful in majority of my use cases - and with standard A7 camera it's just awful, corners focus even longer distance and astigmatism is worse. Without background items popping into focus in corners ZE 28 has really good boke and rendering style - if I would shoot only square-format ZE28 would be really good lens, but I almost never shoot square-format.
If Zeiss can't get Loxia 28mm out, then I need to send one camera for Kolari to get UT sensor cover glass and get Summicron-M, but they are really expensive. Or get Otus 28, but I really don't want so big, expensive and fragile lens. Maybe I try ZM2.8/28 before going to extreme expensive solutions, it should not be much worse than G28 and has ZM-series aperture (=no hexacons).
Slight frustration starts to hit with 28mm "issue", so I'm shooting with 35mm more these days, even I don't like the FOV so much. I currently use ZM2/35 (3000mm PCX @ Kolari v2) and it's close to perfect in my use; boke maximum quality reached already at f/3.2-3.5 and in my opinion this lens has the best focus plane rendering style I have ever experienced - lens is close to "my perfect lens" as possible, but it has wrong FOV. I use also FE1.4/35, and it's not bad either thou it has quite flat rendering, and user interface is not as nice as in ZM-lens plus the gigantic size - and I'm sure I would enjoy ZM1.4/35 and Voigtländer 1.7/35 as with compatible camera or suitable PCX, and naturally Loxia 35 is most likely not much worse than ZM2/35 on Kolari v2 with 3000mm... So many nice choices, if I just would like the FOV, but I don't... For people liking 35mm FOV it must be really great, lots of good options and different rendering styles to choose from.
End of crying for Loxia 28
and image as we are in image thread - G35 demonstration of f/5.6 boke, 3 stops down and boke quality is still BAD, and this is close-up not medium distance, which usually makes boke OK just due to quantity of it. Also focus plane is not so crisp at close distances compared to longer distances.
Carl Zeiss Planar T* 2/35 G @ f/5.6, 1/25s, A7 mkII @ ISO 160, OptoSigma SLB-50-4000PM
Samuli
have you found that the 4m pcx is useful on the g35? i couldn't see any benefit from the 5m pcx on the lens.
Derek, no, it's bad lens; "the Zeiss Samuli didn't like". In my opinion 4000mm fixed boke the best; w/ 3000mm overall sharpness suffers but boke doesn't improve and 5000mm did not seem to do anything. Closing down 3 stops (=f/5.6) doesn't calm down the boke, but closing down the 4th stop (=f/8) it starts to work in boke area as well, but what's the point shooting boke shots f/8 with 35mm? For landscapes it might be OK, in Kolari v2 (no PCX) f/5.6 seems to be OK, but landscapes are so easy as DOF is so huge (why I never care about infinity testing, slanted horizons etc. as it tells nothing about the lens in real life use or it's rendering style - unless you are interested only infinity sharpness). Once again the real challenge is the medium distance boke shots, where this lens really sucks and produces ugliest boke I have ever seen any Zeiss lens to produce. I wrote short "review" some time ago; this thread 250 pages before - management summary; boke sucks, focal plane & rendering quite nice.
Based on MTF the field curvature it's bad even on film, so I would assume it's no use with UT camera as well for medium distance boke shooting?
sebboh wrote:
also, are you not happy with the g28 pcx combo?
Yes and no - landscapes and close-ups I like G28, or should I say love not just like... absolute the best 28mm I have for those use cases. But it's just too slow for my main use = medium distance boke shots. It needs to be closed f/4 or f/4.5 to get rid off harshness in boke and thicker DOF in corners (not field curvature, PCX will take care of that - too small lens barrel and lens elements). But as it's Biogon (=more symmetrical than most other designs), it still gives quite shallow DOF @ f/4-5.6 compared to any retrofocus designs. If I get the medium distance boke shots otherwise "right", then Hexacons in boke ruin it. For landscapes my only problem is that I can't see point investing A7r mkII camera just for backlit CMOS, as 24Mpix is enough for me, and in A7r mkII you mostly pay for the megapixels - the price of A7r mkII is still gigantic in Finland. And without backlit CMOS the color cast requires flat field plugin, which requires to use Lightroom - And I absolute hate LightRoom, and use it just for this plugin and strictly only for photos needing the plugin... So on some level I'm OK with G28, but with the few issues in back of my head tend to remove the joy from shooting, and therefore killing creativity. I like challenges, but "more boring and awful work on post processing" or "issues which can't be resolved by skill and technique" are not inspiring challenges for me. I'm enough masochist to be OK with G-FE adapter focusing, if everything else would work.
I think I need f/2 or faster 28mm lens (with 9 aperture blades), so it would be real life usable ~f/3.2. Lens manufacturers always skrew up and make the lens barrel and lens elements too small, so that quality boke is available in best lenses after closing 1-1.5 stops, and crappier lenses after closing 2-3 stops. I have tried also C/Y 2.8/28 and Leica-R 28mkII, which both are not on level of G28 in my use. I even tried Sony FE28 and hated every second with it, rendering style is not for me. Also in PCX thread people tried to get Voigtlander 2/28 to works, but it seems to have rather ugly boke and PCX really didn't work either.
ZE-series Distagon 28 is the best "fast" 28 I have, but even with Kolari v2 (or Canon 5DmkII, which is similar to Kolari v2) the corners focus much further than the center making the lens not useful in majority of my use cases - and with standard A7 camera it's just awful, corners focus even longer distance and astigmatism is worse. Without background items popping into focus in corners ZE 28 has really good boke and rendering style - if I would shoot only square-format ZE28 would be really good lens, but I almost never shoot square-format.
If Zeiss can't get Loxia 28mm out, then I need to send one camera for Kolari to get UT sensor cover glass and get Summicron-M, but they are really expensive. Or get Otus 28, but I really don't want so big, expensive and fragile lens. Maybe I try ZM2.8/28 before going to extreme expensive solutions, it should not be much worse than G28 and has ZM-series aperture (=no hexacons).
Slight frustration starts to hit with 28mm "issue", so I'm shooting with 35mm more these days, even I don't like the FOV so much. I currently use ZM2/35 (3000mm PCX @ Kolari v2) and it's close to perfect in my use; boke maximum quality reached already at f/3.2-3.5 and in my opinion this lens has the best focus plane rendering style I have ever experienced - lens is close to "my perfect lens" as possible, but it has wrong FOV. I use also FE1.4/35, and it's not bad either thou it has quite flat rendering, and user interface is not as nice as in ZM-lens plus the gigantic size - and I'm sure I would enjoy ZM1.4/35 and Voigtländer 1.7/35 as with compatible camera or suitable PCX, and naturally Loxia 35 is most likely not much worse than ZM2/35 on Kolari v2 with 3000mm... So many nice choices, if I just would like the FOV, but I don't... For people liking 35mm FOV it must be really great, lots of good options and different rendering styles to choose from.
End of crying for Loxia 28
and image as we are in image thread - G35 demonstration of f/5.6 boke, 3 stops down and boke quality is still BAD, and this is close-up not medium distance, which usually makes boke OK just due to quantity of it. Also focus plane is not so crisp at close distances compared to longer distances.Carl Zeiss Planar T* 2/35 G @ f/5.6, 1/25s, A7 mkII @ ISO 160, OptoSigma SLB-50-4000PM
Samuli
Oct 19, 2017 at 02:38 PM
p.2486 #8Sony FE Images Thread
Fe 90 macro, A7ii, plus some cropping.
cute or scary? by Phu Vong, on Flickr
cute or scary? by Phu Vong, on FlickrOct 19, 2017 at 03:07 PM
p.2486 #9Sony FE Images Thread
Samuli Vahonen wrote:
Based on MTF the field curvature it's bad even on film, so I would assume it's no use with UT camera as well for medium distance boke shooting?
Samuli
i assume so, i still need to run it through it's paces. i put it on the UT for a landscape test and shot one wide open portrait with it. otherwise i don't think i've used it. the portrait came out better than expected though, so maybe i should explore it more...
more icky bokeh shots:
g28 wide open:
g21 at f/3.2:
Based on MTF the field curvature it's bad even on film, so I would assume it's no use with UT camera as well for medium distance boke shooting?
Samuli
i assume so, i still need to run it through it's paces. i put it on the UT for a landscape test and shot one wide open portrait with it. otherwise i don't think i've used it. the portrait came out better than expected though, so maybe i should explore it more...
more icky bokeh shots:
g28 wide open:
g21 at f/3.2:
Oct 19, 2017 at 03:17 PM
p.2486 #10Sony FE Images Thread
More from the Dolomites. A7rII with either 16-35GM or 70-300G
Cable Car by Viramati, on Flickr
Rock and Snow by Viramati, on Flickr
Water by Viramati, on Flickr
Untitled by Viramati, on Flickr
Rock alone 2 by Viramati, on Flickr
Untitled by Viramati, on Flickr
Peak and trees by Viramati, on Flickr
Cable Car by Viramati, on Flickr
Rock and Snow by Viramati, on Flickr
Water by Viramati, on Flickr
Untitled by Viramati, on Flickr
Rock alone 2 by Viramati, on Flickr
Untitled by Viramati, on Flickr
Peak and trees by Viramati, on Flickr
Oct 19, 2017 at 03:45 PM
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p.2486 #12Sony FE Images Thread
Long weekend!
Tekapo by Falcdragon, on Flickr
Tekapo by Falcdragon, on Flickr
Oct 19, 2017 at 04:51 PM
p.2486 #13Sony FE Images Thread
A few early morning shots at the Huntington Gardens and Library, Pasadena, CA.
Just inside the main entrance walkway.
12-24G, LRCC.
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Just inside the main entrance walkway.
12-24G, LRCC.
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Oct 19, 2017 at 05:13 PM
p.2486 #14Sony FE Images Thread
Just realized I never posted these to this thread. All with the a7II + Topcor 35 f/2.8
My review thread here https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1512105/0#14210268
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Oct 19, 2017 at 06:29 PM
p.2486 #15Sony FE Images Thread
I just received my copy of the Voigtlander 65/2. Just some random shots around the neighborhood. I'm already blown away. The colors SOOC are wonderful. The lens is sharp, bokeh looks to be great and the 3d pop is there too. WOW.
Oct 19, 2017 at 06:34 PM
p.2486 #16Sony FE Images Thread
My first image processed in LR Classic CC. This is an extreme example for me: pushed over 2 stops, and strong PP to bring up shadows and reduce highlights, and shot at higher ISO: 640. A good composition, but a bad "grab" trying not to delay my partner. It seems noisier than I'd like, while doing PP, but maybe it will be okay here after PP is completed.
PS -- Looks like the noisiness and hot pixels were part of the PP, not the final image. Yay! I got to use the correct 12-24G profile finally with this new software. Double yay!!
PS -- Looks like the noisiness and hot pixels were part of the PP, not the final image. Yay!
I got to use the correct 12-24G profile finally with this new software. Double yay!! Oct 19, 2017 at 06:39 PM
p.2486 #17Sony FE Images Thread
Nice Jim. Mine above yours were also processed in LR Classic. I like the speed improvement for sure. The color and lumance masking is also wonderful.
Oct 19, 2017 at 07:08 PM
p.2486 #18Sony FE Images Thread
Not a lot has changed with the new "Classic" version of LR, but I like it! Seems definitely faster and less hesitant.
Posted before I saw your 65/2 photos and LR Classic comments, Bob! I may have to put that lens on my list -- you really made it sing right out of the box!
Posted before I saw your 65/2 photos and LR Classic comments, Bob! I may have to put that lens on my list -- you really made it sing right out of the box!
Oct 19, 2017 at 07:12 PM
p.2486 #19Sony FE Images Thread
Gunzorro wrote:
Not a lot has changed with the new "Classic" version of LR, but I like it! Seems definitely faster and less hesitant.
Posted before I saw your 65/2 photos and LR Classic comments, Bob! I may have to put that lens on my list -- you really made it sing right out of the box!
I feel like I didn’t do much except focus and shoot. The lens is freaking awesome.
Not a lot has changed with the new "Classic" version of LR, but I like it! Seems definitely faster and less hesitant.
Posted before I saw your 65/2 photos and LR Classic comments, Bob! I may have to put that lens on my list -- you really made it sing right out of the box!
I feel like I didn’t do much except focus and shoot. The lens is freaking awesome.
Oct 19, 2017 at 07:20 PM
p.2486 #20Sony FE Images Thread
MedicineMan404 wrote:
I thought this was your 100-400. Should of lied and said it was the 100-400, and I would have believed you. Fantastic shot.Thank you! Yes, the performance of that lens surprised me, too.
beautiful shot and title.Thank you!
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Here is another image of another bathing hummingbird taken with the same FE 70-300mm G lens. This lil' guy was perching on a fern frond a little further away from me. The entire frond with the hummer on top was swaying in the wind during the rain. I also took a video clip of the event; the experience was truly something else.
Back to the lens' aspect - I believe the GM 100-400mm is a better lens than the 70-300mm. And the Canon EF 400mm f/2.8 IS Mark II, being a faster, super prime lens, leaves both behind in the dust. Check out the second image, taken with the Canon lens plus a 1.4X TC after the rain had stopped. The difference is visible. My last Canon body was the 5D Mark III, and from what I could see from my experience in the last several years of using this lens, the A7r II truly brings out the best out this lens.Spectacular Joshua.
Thank you very much, Robert!
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Blue hour in Venice during the carnival....
AGeoJO wrote
phuviano wrote
AGeoJO wrote
This hummingbird in Costa Rica was about to take a bath in the rain. There were 3-4 of them at that time and their excitement of the setting rain was palpable. I posted a similar image before but not this one. The lens was an FE 70-300mm G lens. Yes, it is a prosumer caliber lens but its performance is impressive.kevindar wrote
AGeoJO wrote
This hummingbird in Costa Rica was about to take a bath in the rain. There were 3-4 of them at that time and their excitement of the setting rain was palpable. I posted a similar image before but not this one. The lens was an FE 70-300mm G lens. Yes, it is a prosumer caliber lens but its performance is impressive._________________________
Here is another image of another bathing hummingbird taken with the same FE 70-300mm G lens. This lil' guy was perching on a fern frond a little further away from me. The entire frond with the hummer on top was swaying in the wind during the rain. I also took a video clip of the event; the experience was truly something else.
Back to the lens' aspect - I believe the GM 100-400mm is a better lens than the 70-300mm. And the Canon EF 400mm f/2.8 IS Mark II, being a faster, super prime lens, leaves both behind in the dust. Check out the second image, taken with the Canon lens plus a 1.4X TC after the rain had stopped. The difference is visible. My last Canon body was the 5D Mark III, and from what I could see from my experience in the last several years of using this lens, the A7r II truly brings out the best out this lens.
Thank you very much, Robert!
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