Sony FE Images Thread
p.2411 #1Sony FE Images Thread
Few quick shots from today in the neighborhood. All with CV 65/2 apo-lanthar. I like this lens for flowers.
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Sep 08, 2017 at 08:07 PM
p.2411 #2Sony FE Images Thread
A slightly different view of the Watson Mill Bridge.
Loxia 21mm:
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Sep 08, 2017 at 09:36 PM
p.2411 #3Sony FE Images Thread
Joshua...thank you kindly! I love it!
Bluloo and Stephen....really nice!
Gregg
A7rll and Jupiter 8, 50/2
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@f4...not a particularly awesome grab, but I love the couches presence!
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Bluloo and Stephen....really nice!
Gregg
A7rll and Jupiter 8, 50/2
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@f4...not a particularly awesome grab, but I love the couches presence!
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Sep 08, 2017 at 09:38 PM
p.2411 #4Sony FE Images Thread
Sony A7 + Zeiss Makro-Planar T* 100mm f/2 by Ronny Olsson, on Flickr
Sep 08, 2017 at 10:07 PM
p.2411 #5Sony FE Images Thread
Sony A7R + Contax Zeiss C/Y 100mm F2.8
Sony A7R + Contax Zeiss C/Y 135-70mm F3.4
Church of St. Francis of Assisi, Cracow
Church of St. Francis of Assisi, Cracow
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Sep 08, 2017 at 11:07 PM
p.2411 #6Sony FE Images Thread
Here are some closer shots of this cool Watson Mill Bridge. Lenses used are in the image descriptions.
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Sep 08, 2017 at 11:15 PM
p.2411 #7Sony FE Images Thread
Karl-Heinz: Wow!!! Peire, I always had a soft spot for my NEX 5N, and you rekindle that love story. Nice set!!
Ronny, Joshua, René sorry out of fresh words, but your pictures always draw fresh admiration.
Samuli, gorgeous car shots. You are trying out the FE 35 f:1.4 now? How do you find it compared to, for example, the ZM 35?
David. I love it!!
Mike: Wow!!!
Gregg, you manage to make something easily missed into a set of super shots!
And Dale, and DigitalAM, and.....
Ronny, Joshua, René sorry out of fresh words, but your pictures always draw fresh admiration.
Samuli, gorgeous car shots. You are trying out the FE 35 f:1.4 now? How do you find it compared to, for example, the ZM 35?
David. I love it!!
Mike: Wow!!!
Gregg, you manage to make something easily missed into a set of super shots!
And Dale, and DigitalAM, and.....
Sep 09, 2017 at 12:23 AM
p.2411 #8Sony FE Images Thread
Sony A7R + Contax Zeiss C/Y 35-70mm F3.4
Royal Castle by the Vistula River in Cracow
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Sep 09, 2017 at 12:30 AM
p.2411 #10Sony FE Images Thread
philber wrote:
Samuli, gorgeous car shots. You are trying out the FE 35 f:1.4 now? How do you find it compared to, for example, the ZM 35?
Philippe, thanks! Yes I ended up to getting FE 1.4/35. I had dilemma "which lens to match weird rendering style of GM85?" Well I failed and didn't find pair for GM85 rendering style, but I like the FE1.4/35 otherwise. It's not traditional Zeiss rendering style, and on focus plane "how to render shape/volume" it will never match the older Zeiss rendering style lenses, but it's also not too far off from modern Zeiss rendering style (e.g. Loxias and ZE/ZF APO-Sonnar 135) so I can bring it to forest with other lenses and it's images "blend" to other images from location quite OK.
My copy is great at close distances - I was really worried for sample variance, and had two used lenses in two different cities to choose from, and after many hours sitting in my car I got lucky and the 1st city copy seems OK, all corners render the same etc. Wide open close-up / mid-distance performance is really great. I have shoot a lot with f/1.4, but I have not yet made my final opinion do I prefer wide open f/1.4 or 1/3 stop closed down to f/1.7. In any ways this is not like older lenses, that it needs to be closed down 1-2 stops to get decent boke. However for landscapes FE1.4/35 needs f/5.6-8 to produce good landscapes (don't know is it copy issue or generic to lens model).
Manual focus is by wire, and even focus feeling is "OK" I find it harder to focus compared to real Zeiss lenses; the best contrast inside DOF is not as much visible as older Zeiss lenses when viewing the 14.4x magnified view. Reminds me a little how Canon L lenses were: large DOF and the center of DOF does not differ any way from other parts of the DOF, nice to eliminate small AF missfocus issues, but makes rendering style very boring (I sold all Canon L already in 2008-2011 time period when we got ZE-series from Zeiss, so my comment is not valid for modern Canon L, most my L were mkI except 85L, which was mkII).
The recipe for great large aperture performance seems to be these days very large lens size - lens is not heavy, but size is really big. For comparison Zeiss ZE135 with Metabones (considered very large lens for Sony E-mount), it's just a little longer than FE 1.4/35 - the small lens is ZM 2/35 with FE-adapter:
Compared to ZM35? I don't have the f/1.4 version, I have the f/2 version so I'll have to compare to it - naturally in the only combination I got it working: Kolari v2 + 3000mm PCX correction lens. These two are from different planet, the ZM 2/35 is lens what I would say has "the strongest old Zeiss rendering style" found from any lens I have shoot with. With ZM 2/35 the focus plane/DOF subjects very easily appear as real looking and don't appear flat but seem to have clear shape and volume, instead of flat cardboard subjects in middle of boke. Boke is much better on FE1.4/35, and it has less vignetting (ZM vignetting partially caused by large ray angle with Biogon & A7 sensor microlens alignment). For landscapes ZM 2/35 is clearly better lens; the great rendering style it has close-up/mid-distance it also has at landscape distances and it works the best with f/5.6, closing down more eats brilliance from image via diffraction. Both produce nice sunstars, but they are much smaller in FE 1.4/35.
I guess I survive with FE 1.4/35, just as long as I don't assume it to be able render like old Zeiss style (e.g. don't assume that FE 1.4/35 never could produce anything like this on focus plane: few trees with ZM 2/35 @ f/2.8). Also I'm not the person who sells lens immediately if there is other lens within 10mm focal length difference; for me the different rendering styles of lenses are way more important than the FOVs. So I'll keep enjoying both of the 35mm lenses, at least until somebody will produce good 28mm for E-mount - or I stop hesitating and buy the damn Otus 28...
Sony Distagon T* 1.4/35 FE @ f/1.4, 1/60s, ILCE-7R @ ISO 640 (still same location, shot through thick glass)
Sony FE 1.4/85 GM @ f/1.7, 1/100s, ILCE-7M2 @ ISO 640 ("normal" car museum, shot without any glass between camera and subject)
Samuli
Samuli, gorgeous car shots. You are trying out the FE 35 f:1.4 now? How do you find it compared to, for example, the ZM 35?
Philippe, thanks! Yes I ended up to getting FE 1.4/35. I had dilemma "which lens to match weird rendering style of GM85?" Well I failed and didn't find pair for GM85 rendering style, but I like the FE1.4/35 otherwise. It's not traditional Zeiss rendering style, and on focus plane "how to render shape/volume" it will never match the older Zeiss rendering style lenses, but it's also not too far off from modern Zeiss rendering style (e.g. Loxias and ZE/ZF APO-Sonnar 135) so I can bring it to forest with other lenses and it's images "blend" to other images from location quite OK.
My copy is great at close distances - I was really worried for sample variance, and had two used lenses in two different cities to choose from, and after many hours sitting in my car I got lucky and the 1st city copy seems OK, all corners render the same etc. Wide open close-up / mid-distance performance is really great. I have shoot a lot with f/1.4, but I have not yet made my final opinion do I prefer wide open f/1.4 or 1/3 stop closed down to f/1.7. In any ways this is not like older lenses, that it needs to be closed down 1-2 stops to get decent boke. However for landscapes FE1.4/35 needs f/5.6-8 to produce good landscapes (don't know is it copy issue or generic to lens model).
Manual focus is by wire, and even focus feeling is "OK" I find it harder to focus compared to real Zeiss lenses; the best contrast inside DOF is not as much visible as older Zeiss lenses when viewing the 14.4x magnified view. Reminds me a little how Canon L lenses were: large DOF and the center of DOF does not differ any way from other parts of the DOF, nice to eliminate small AF missfocus issues, but makes rendering style very boring (I sold all Canon L already in 2008-2011 time period when we got ZE-series from Zeiss, so my comment is not valid for modern Canon L, most my L were mkI except 85L, which was mkII).
The recipe for great large aperture performance seems to be these days very large lens size - lens is not heavy, but size is really big. For comparison Zeiss ZE135 with Metabones (considered very large lens for Sony E-mount), it's just a little longer than FE 1.4/35 - the small lens is ZM 2/35 with FE-adapter:
Compared to ZM35? I don't have the f/1.4 version, I have the f/2 version so I'll have to compare to it - naturally in the only combination I got it working: Kolari v2 + 3000mm PCX correction lens. These two are from different planet, the ZM 2/35 is lens what I would say has "the strongest old Zeiss rendering style" found from any lens I have shoot with. With ZM 2/35 the focus plane/DOF subjects very easily appear as real looking and don't appear flat but seem to have clear shape and volume, instead of flat cardboard subjects in middle of boke. Boke is much better on FE1.4/35, and it has less vignetting (ZM vignetting partially caused by large ray angle with Biogon & A7 sensor microlens alignment). For landscapes ZM 2/35 is clearly better lens; the great rendering style it has close-up/mid-distance it also has at landscape distances and it works the best with f/5.6, closing down more eats brilliance from image via diffraction. Both produce nice sunstars, but they are much smaller in FE 1.4/35.
I guess I survive with FE 1.4/35, just as long as I don't assume it to be able render like old Zeiss style (e.g. don't assume that FE 1.4/35 never could produce anything like this on focus plane: few trees with ZM 2/35 @ f/2.8). Also I'm not the person who sells lens immediately if there is other lens within 10mm focal length difference; for me the different rendering styles of lenses are way more important than the FOVs. So I'll keep enjoying both of the 35mm lenses, at least until somebody will produce good 28mm for E-mount - or I stop hesitating and buy the damn Otus 28...
Sony Distagon T* 1.4/35 FE @ f/1.4, 1/60s, ILCE-7R @ ISO 640 (still same location, shot through thick glass)
Sony FE 1.4/85 GM @ f/1.7, 1/100s, ILCE-7M2 @ ISO 640 ("normal" car museum, shot without any glass between camera and subject)
Samuli
Sep 09, 2017 at 02:08 AM
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p.2411 #11Sony FE Images Thread
Nice write-up. I never warmed to the FE 35/1.4 rendering because of the reasons you mention. So I sold it, and use my C/Y 35/1.4 from time to time. These days my favourite 35/1.4 is the Sigma 35/1.4 Art, which I consider a true bargain. But what lens rendering we all prefer is of course subjective.
Sep 09, 2017 at 02:21 AM
p.2411 #13Sony FE Images Thread
we had a bit Fun with the old Canon 15mm 2.8 on the A7rII
Portrait of me in the early morning before work and a bearded angry coworker in the background
fish1 (1 von 1) by Ben Schafroth, auf Flickr
Portrait of me in the early morning before work and a bearded angry coworker in the background
fish1 (1 von 1) by Ben Schafroth, auf FlickrSep 09, 2017 at 05:36 AM
p.2411 #14Sony FE Images Thread
Viramati wrote:
Antelao, Dolomiti
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4371/36900495196_4ab3b47a43_b.jpg
Antelao by Viramati, on Flickr
Beautiful shot!
Sep 09, 2017 at 10:05 AM
p.2411 #15Sony FE Images Thread
First decent test shot with the Batis 135 APO
Colorful rooster shot through chicken-wire coop, which I didn't care for at first but, I think, works.
Zeiss Batis 135 by lareginl, on Flickr
Colorful rooster shot through chicken-wire coop, which I didn't care for at first but, I think, works.
Zeiss Batis 135 by lareginl, on FlickrSep 09, 2017 at 10:43 AM
p.2411 #16Sony FE Images Thread
A72+Elmarit R 24/2.8
A72+Summicron R 50/2
A72+Summicron 35/2
A72+Canon FD SSC 35/2 Concave
A72+Canon FD SSC 50/1.4
A72+Summicron R 50/2
A72+Summicron 35/2
A72+Canon FD SSC 35/2 Concave
A72+Canon FD SSC 50/1.4
Sep 09, 2017 at 10:54 AM
p.2411 #17Sony FE Images Thread
Greggf wrote:
Joshua...thank you kindly! I love it!
Bluloo and Stephen....really nice!
Gregg
A7rll and Jupiter 8, 50/2
Nice light in these images and I really like that interior space - the mix of raw and modern without clutter. What city is this in?
Sep 09, 2017 at 11:22 AM
p.2411 #18Sony FE Images Thread
frezeiss wrote:
I bet it look good in B&W, Joshua.
Thank you for the tip! I did convert it to B&W and you are right; I like it better in B&W now
Greggf wrote:
Joshua...thank you kindly! I love it!
Bluloo and Stephen....really nice!
Gregg
A7rll and Jupiter 8, 50/2
Thank you, Gregg! I like the images of those house interiors a lot. And that couch looks really comfortable.
philber wrote:
Ronny, Joshua, René sorry out of fresh words, but your pictures always draw fresh admiration.
Philippe, I appreciate you kind words. Is that a wall painting or stenciled on the wall? Great image regardless!
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Inspired by frezeiss' comment, here is another image from the same session but converted into B&W
Arianna (Ari)
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I bet it look good in B&W, Joshua.
Thank you for the tip! I did convert it to B&W and you are right; I like it better in B&W now
Greggf wrote:
Joshua...thank you kindly! I love it!
Bluloo and Stephen....really nice!
Gregg
A7rll and Jupiter 8, 50/2
Thank you, Gregg! I like the images of those house interiors a lot. And that couch looks really comfortable
.philber wrote:
Ronny, Joshua, René sorry out of fresh words, but your pictures always draw fresh admiration.
Philippe, I appreciate you kind words. Is that a wall painting or stenciled on the wall? Great image regardless!
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Inspired by frezeiss' comment, here is another image from the same session but converted into B&W
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Sep 09, 2017 at 11:39 AM
p.2411 #19Sony FE Images Thread
A7II, Zeiss Loxia 2.8/21:
Fondamenta Arsenale by Jannik Peters, auf Flickr
Fondamenta Arsenale by Jannik Peters, auf Flickr
Sep 09, 2017 at 11:53 AM
p.2411 #20Sony FE Images Thread
AGeoJO wrote:
Philippe, I appreciate you kind words. Is that a wall painting or stenciled on the wall? Great image regardless!
Thanks, Joshua! It is a wall painting. And your portrait is splendid!
Philippe, I appreciate you kind words. Is that a wall painting or stenciled on the wall? Great image regardless!
Thanks, Joshua! It is a wall painting. And your portrait is splendid!
Sep 09, 2017 at 12:06 PM