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p.19 #1 · Sony A7r + Rangefinder Lenses: Images


CANON LTM 50/1.2

Canon 50mmf1pt2 on Sony A7-2-2 by Sushicam, on Flickr


Canon 50mmf1pt2 on Sony A7-2-6 by Sushicam, on Flickr

CANON LTM 35/2:

Canon 35mmf2 on Sony A7-2 by Sushicam, on Flickr


Canon 35mmf2 on Sony A7-2-3 by Sushicam, on Flickr

Posted with permission. Shot with A7 Kyoto by Jeff Laitila



Dec 03, 2013 at 12:42 AM
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p.19 #2 · Sony A7r + Rangefinder Lenses: Images


CV 50/1.5

20131201-DSC01243 by Mac Kwan, on Flickr



Dec 03, 2013 at 01:31 AM
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p.19 #3 · Sony A7r + Rangefinder Lenses: Images


Wow! What a shot, Ebookman! Did that require special PP because of the A7?


Dec 03, 2013 at 02:01 AM
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p.19 #4 · Sony A7r + Rangefinder Lenses: Images


turnstyle wrote:
Hi, I posted this in another thread -- but seemed potentially appropriate here too...

Somebody over on DPreview kindly posted a set of comparisons of the CV 35 1.2 on both A7 and A7r:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/masters.galleries.dpreview.com/2771475.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=14Y3MT0G2J4Y72K3ZXR2&Expires=1386022880&Signature=AfH6q81ecUG2apJx37LtIjlungs%3D

I downloaded that JPG, cranked Vibrance and Saturation in Light room, which turned it into this:

http://3.static.img-dpreview.com/files/p/E~forums%2F52636474%2Fa827ed0934384690812a7a8a27100d04

What do you make of that? Seems like rather different outcome on A7 and A7r -- and what's with the weird arc on the A7r shots?


Well, I'm a bit wary of any PP done to JPGs :-)

But, this looks to me like effects of Cornerfix with a not-quite-right calibration file (then jacked up w/ the vibrance - if it looked this bad, it'd be the completely wrong calibration file).



Dec 03, 2013 at 02:16 AM
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p.19 #5 · Sony A7r + Rangefinder Lenses: Images


uhoh7 wrote:
CANON LTM 50/1.2
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3786/11169817933_204b60094d_b.jpg
Canon 50mmf1pt2 on Sony A7-2-2 by Sushicam, on Flickr


Holy Moly! If you really focus on the water it looks like its moving! Hows that for an amazing picture



Dec 03, 2013 at 03:37 AM
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p.19 #6 · Sony A7r + Rangefinder Lenses: Images


I tried to shoot yesterday. Unfortunately, there's no support for A7 in DxO Optics Pro yet, and Darktable which I participated in development for has no proper color profile yet. I tried to use custom ICC instead built upon CMP4 color target, but either I set flashes focal length too long (105 or so), or there were problems with synchronization and electronic first curtain (top of the target was dark), so failed to do this properly. Thus end up with flat colors what won't allow to make color rendition assumptions and make images looking not as good as they could be.

Lux 50 ASPH @ f5.6
http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12196364/gallery/2013.12.02/DSC00236.jpg


Lux 35 ASPH FLE @f1.4
http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12196364/gallery/2013.12.02/DSC00271.jpg


And I am afraid the real shooting experience turned to be even worse than I firstly imagined. Inspite they improved zone choose interface (first choose a zone with little rectangle, then magnify) it isn't near as fast as using touch screen. There's a feature with AF lenses: you can press middle button and camera will track an object that was in focusing area. IMO it is even better than touch screen, but unfortunately it doesn't work with manual lenses, which is silly: it looks like it uses pattern recognition only, so nothing would prevent it to be used with lenses with unknown focal length. In this case camera will be highly usable for me, I could live even with fixed EVF (and one used in A7 is excellent: large and clear, it's hard to miss focus with it).
Using EVF in case of quite widish lenses (50 and wider) is not I find acceptable: distortions become too pronounced shooting from eye level, the camera need to be move down to the chest or stomach level.

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Dec 03, 2013 at 05:39 AM
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Emacs wrote:
There's a feature with AF lenses: you can press middle button and camera will track an object that was in focusing area. IMO it is even better than touch screen, but unfortunately it doesn't work with manual lenses, which is silly: it looks like it uses pattern recognition only, so nothing would prevent it to be used with lenses with unknown focal length.


Is that object tracking -- or "eye AF"?

Does it work with an FE lens set to manual focus?



Dec 03, 2013 at 06:13 AM
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Taylor Sherman wrote:
Well, I'm a bit wary of any PP done to JPGs :-)

But, this looks to me like effects of Cornerfix with a not-quite-right calibration file (then jacked up w/ the vibrance - if it looked this bad, it'd be the completely wrong calibration file).


I agree that it's unfortunate that I only have access to the JPG.

But I highly doubt he used anything like Cornerfix -- because the point of the set was to show what the corners looked like -- one set comparing the CV 35 1.2 on A7 vs A7r, and another set comparing the FE 35 on A7 vs A7r (no discernible difference with the FE 35).

So, I don't think there was any Cornerfix involved. The shape of the arc in the A7r shots makes me think something is missing that couldn't be 'recovered' -- but yes, it's a problem that it's a JPG -- but I would have guessed similar artifacts on both sides.



Dec 03, 2013 at 06:18 AM
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p.19 #9 · Sony A7r + Rangefinder Lenses: Images


Any voigtlander 40 1.4 shots you guys can share with maaaaad bokehs?

With any luck I'll be posting my results with this combo tomorrow. Very excite!



Dec 03, 2013 at 08:00 AM
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p.19 #10 · Sony A7r + Rangefinder Lenses: Images


turnstyle wrote:
Is that object tracking -- or "eye AF"?

Does it work with an FE lens set to manual focus?

It's not an eye AF definitely.
Will try it with my old 18-55 kit to be sure (it doesn't differ from FE anyway functionally-wise).



Dec 03, 2013 at 09:49 AM
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p.19 #11 · Sony A7r + Rangefinder Lenses: Images


CV 50/1.1

My own shots today


DSC01836 by unoh7, on Flickr


DSC01845 by unoh7, on Flickr


DSC01776 by unoh7, on Flickr



Dec 03, 2013 at 09:07 PM
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Are these shots with the hood? Quite a bit of vignetting in them....


Dec 03, 2013 at 10:14 PM
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Gary Clennan wrote:
Are these shots with the hood? Quite a bit of vignetting in them....


yeah, that's definitely some weird corner vignetting.




Dec 03, 2013 at 10:58 PM
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Putting out a request for more shots take with, and recommendations for, smallish short teles on A7/A7R. I got an A7 and plan to use my OM 21/3.5 and ZM 50/1.5 and 50 Cron R lenses on it, but want a short tele in 85-100mm range. Have a Nikon 85/1.8 G for my soon to go D800 that seems to work well based on a few quick shots, but there's no pleasure focusing or changing aperture with that thing.


Dec 04, 2013 at 04:07 AM
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p.19 #15 · Sony A7r + Rangefinder Lenses: Images


darrellc, i'll shoot some more with my Canon 100/3.5 this weekend just for you.


Dec 04, 2013 at 05:24 AM
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p.19 #16 · Sony A7r + Rangefinder Lenses: Images


Gary Clennan wrote:
Are these shots with the hood? Quite a bit of vignetting in them....


Yes, hood and hawks adapter. I will need to experiment to see where that's coming from



Dec 04, 2013 at 06:04 AM
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p.19 #17 · Sony A7r + Rangefinder Lenses: Images


My 28 cron on A7r review: it's very good. Slight colorshift and vignette, correctable.

There is no correction for either in these shots.


crony by unoh7, on Flickr

For landscape F/8 is the sharpest

cron_a7r_f8_ by unoh7, on Flickr

no clue what stop below:

cony28 by unoh7, on Flickr

f/2 subject just out of focus, but paperwork shows performance:

cron2 by unoh7, on Flickr

warhol at f/2:

cron28_f2_a7r by unoh7, on Flickr

in conclusion: if you love your cron you have it. if you have no RF28 and need one for A7r, get the elmarit v3.

For me the biggest issue, since I bought the lens for the 5n, is to figure out what to do with all the new FOV real estate.



Dec 04, 2013 at 06:29 AM
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p.19 #18 · Sony A7r + Rangefinder Lenses: Images


50 pre-asph lux


DSC00135 by Tom O'Hara, on Flickr



Dec 04, 2013 at 06:53 AM
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darrellc wrote:
Putting out a request for more shots take with, and recommendations for, smallish short teles on A7/A7R. I got an A7 and plan to use my OM 21/3.5 and ZM 50/1.5 and 50 Cron R lenses on it, but want a short tele in 85-100mm range. Have a Nikon 85/1.8 G for my soon to go D800 that seems to work well based on a few quick shots, but there's no pleasure focusing or changing aperture with that thing.


I plan to use the Voigtlander 90mm f/3.5 that I've also used pretty extensively on Nikon FX bodies and the NEX-6. It's a very good compact lens if you're okay with the speed, and you should be able to pick it up pretty easily. I haven't tried it on my A7, as I don't yet have an F-E adapter, and have to cludge an F-M and M-E adapter combo to try out my F-mount glass.



Dec 04, 2013 at 07:34 AM
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The Nikon 85/1.8 D lens has an aperture ring (as do all D nikkors) and is a very good and compact lens which is pretty inexpensive. I'm going to be trying mine one of these days soon.


Dec 04, 2013 at 01:20 PM
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