The 58mm F/1.4G Thread
p.44 #1The 58mm F/1.4G Thread
supermario343 wrote:
Thanks! Yes it is, I feel like I want to leave this lens on my camera all the time no matter what im shooting but I cant lol.
It has definitely become my favorite. I think my Leica lenses are jealous. Only my old (1937) Zeiss Sonnar compares for bokeh, and not for anything else.
low325 wrote
nice shot mario...such a versatile lens!It has definitely become my favorite. I think my Leica lenses are jealous. Only my old (1937) Zeiss Sonnar compares for bokeh, and not for anything else.
Oct 07, 2014 at 04:45 PM
p.44 #2The 58mm F/1.4G Thread
I would love to see some comparisons with this lens and the 85 1.4G. I think they render pretty similarly with a warm character, punchy colors and lovely, smooth bokeh.
Oct 07, 2014 at 05:44 PM
p.44 #3The 58mm F/1.4G Thread
I basically ride around all evening with my D800 + 58mm strapped to my back now...
Oct 07, 2014 at 07:41 PM
p.44 #4The 58mm F/1.4G Thread
Jason_Brook wrote:
Dave, one thing to consider is that near MFD there is focus shift going on. Be sure to test and tune at multiple distances. A good rule of thumb is to stop down to f/1.8-2 near MFD.
Thanks for the tip Jason.
Although I'm slightly confused though. Isn't focus shift the shift in focus plane between focusing (done with lens wide open) and when the aperture stops down if you selected a smaller aperture?
Or do you mean that the focus fine tune amount varies with distance, especially at MFD so stopping down helps to hide this with a deeper DOF?
Dave, one thing to consider is that near MFD there is focus shift going on. Be sure to test and tune at multiple distances. A good rule of thumb is to stop down to f/1.8-2 near MFD.
Thanks for the tip Jason.
Although I'm slightly confused though. Isn't focus shift the shift in focus plane between focusing (done with lens wide open) and when the aperture stops down if you selected a smaller aperture?
Or do you mean that the focus fine tune amount varies with distance, especially at MFD so stopping down helps to hide this with a deeper DOF?
Oct 07, 2014 at 07:41 PM
p.44 #5The 58mm F/1.4G Thread
First time posting an image here so lets see how this goes. Nothing special but just some test images this week.
Oct 07, 2014 at 10:10 PM
p.44 #6The 58mm F/1.4G Thread
Buckeye2604 wrote:
I would love to see some comparisons with this lens and the 85 1.4G. I think they render pretty similarly with a warm character, punchy colors and lovely, smooth bokeh.
I felt that they were very different. The 85 is much sharper. I think it ranks just below the 200 f2 on DXO charts, if you're into that sorta thing. Just another way to say it's really really sharp. And of course the 85 will offer thinner DoF, more compression, and thoretically more subject isolation. IMO the 85 has the best color of any lens I've used in Nikon's lineup, but that's just my opinion.
With all that said, because the two lenses rendered much differently when I was shooting them, I felt the 58 stood out. A complete novice could look at both shots and see the 58 had something special, maybe old timey about it. Soul? But that's also why I prefer the 85. Because whenever a camera is in my hands I'm making money and I prefer the more clinical look for that type of work. Anyway, just my thoughts on the subject.
I would love to see some comparisons with this lens and the 85 1.4G. I think they render pretty similarly with a warm character, punchy colors and lovely, smooth bokeh.
I felt that they were very different. The 85 is much sharper. I think it ranks just below the 200 f2 on DXO charts, if you're into that sorta thing. Just another way to say it's really really sharp. And of course the 85 will offer thinner DoF, more compression, and thoretically more subject isolation. IMO the 85 has the best color of any lens I've used in Nikon's lineup, but that's just my opinion.
With all that said, because the two lenses rendered much differently when I was shooting them, I felt the 58 stood out. A complete novice could look at both shots and see the 58 had something special, maybe old timey about it. Soul? But that's also why I prefer the 85. Because whenever a camera is in my hands I'm making money and I prefer the more clinical look for that type of work. Anyway, just my thoughts on the subject.
Oct 08, 2014 at 12:10 AM
p.44 #7The 58mm F/1.4G Thread
swifty168 wrote:
Thanks for the tip Jason.
Although I'm slightly confused though. Isn't focus shift the shift in focus plane between focusing (done with lens wide open) and when the aperture stops down if you selected a smaller aperture?
Or do you mean that the focus fine tune amount varies with distance, especially at MFD so stopping down helps to hide this with a deeper DOF?
To me, and I may be wrong, focus shift is the plane of focus going out of tune between MFD/infinity; so yes, basically variable AF fine tune needed across distances.
Jason_Brook wrote
Dave, one thing to consider is that near MFD there is focus shift going on. Be sure to test and tune at multiple distances. A good rule of thumb is to stop down to f/1.8-2 near MFD.Although I'm slightly confused though. Isn't focus shift the shift in focus plane between focusing (done with lens wide open) and when the aperture stops down if you selected a smaller aperture?
Or do you mean that the focus fine tune amount varies with distance, especially at MFD so stopping down helps to hide this with a deeper DOF?
To me, and I may be wrong, focus shift is the plane of focus going out of tune between MFD/infinity; so yes, basically variable AF fine tune needed across distances.
Oct 08, 2014 at 04:57 AM
p.44 #8The 58mm F/1.4G Thread
Buckeye2604 wrote:
I would love to see some comparisons with this lens and the 85 1.4G. I think they render pretty similarly with a warm character, punchy colors and lovely, smooth bokeh.
I've tried both 85G's and I will say that if I had only one choice of a telephoto/portrait lens, I would go with an 85mm f/1.4G without thinking twice. The reason for that is simple: the 85 isolates subjects better and has more background compression than the 58. It is also sharper but that's not what I care about.
The reason why I don't own an 85 is because it would be a redundant piece of gear for me since I own a 70-200VRII. I prefer the 58mm over the 85mm is simply because its a 58mm; the field of view is just perfect for my shooting style! Often times there wasn't enough space for 85mm and that's when I wished I had the 58. But when I do have more room to shoot, I simply rack out my 70-200 and shoot way at 2.8, which gives me even more background compression than the 85 would.
With that being said, I wish Nikon would've released a modern 135G already!! 28G/58G/135G would've been the best combo for me.
I would love to see some comparisons with this lens and the 85 1.4G. I think they render pretty similarly with a warm character, punchy colors and lovely, smooth bokeh.
I've tried both 85G's and I will say that if I had only one choice of a telephoto/portrait lens, I would go with an 85mm f/1.4G without thinking twice. The reason for that is simple: the 85 isolates subjects better and has more background compression than the 58. It is also sharper but that's not what I care about.
The reason why I don't own an 85 is because it would be a redundant piece of gear for me since I own a 70-200VRII. I prefer the 58mm over the 85mm is simply because its a 58mm; the field of view is just perfect for my shooting style! Often times there wasn't enough space for 85mm and that's when I wished I had the 58. But when I do have more room to shoot, I simply rack out my 70-200 and shoot way at 2.8, which gives me even more background compression than the 85 would.
With that being said, I wish Nikon would've released a modern 135G already!! 28G/58G/135G would've been the best combo for me.
Oct 08, 2014 at 06:55 AM
p.44 #9The 58mm F/1.4G Thread
Jason_Brook wrote:
Thanks for the tip Jason.
Although I'm slightly confused though. Isn't focus shift the shift in focus plane between focusing (done with lens wide open) and when the aperture stops down if you selected a smaller aperture?
Or do you mean that the focus fine tune amount varies with distance, especially at MFD so stopping down helps to hide this with a deeper DOF?To me, and I may be wrong, focus shift is the plane of focus going out of tune between MFD/infinity; so yes, basically variable AF fine tune needed across distances.
Swifty's correct, focus shift is the change in focal point if the lens is stopped down. Phase detect AF does its thing with the aperture wide open, but if you've selected a stopped down aperture, the focus will shift due to spherical aberrations when the shutter is released.
Stopping down closer to MFD is just good photographic practice with a lens with such a thin DOF, but ironically, closer distances is when focus shift is most noticeable.
swifty168 wrote
Jason_Brook wrote
Dave, one thing to consider is that near MFD there is focus shift going on. Be sure to test and tune at multiple distances. A good rule of thumb is to stop down to f/1.8-2 near MFD.Although I'm slightly confused though. Isn't focus shift the shift in focus plane between focusing (done with lens wide open) and when the aperture stops down if you selected a smaller aperture?
Or do you mean that the focus fine tune amount varies with distance, especially at MFD so stopping down helps to hide this with a deeper DOF?
Swifty's correct, focus shift is the change in focal point if the lens is stopped down. Phase detect AF does its thing with the aperture wide open, but if you've selected a stopped down aperture, the focus will shift due to spherical aberrations when the shutter is released.
Stopping down closer to MFD is just good photographic practice with a lens with such a thin DOF, but ironically, closer distances is when focus shift is most noticeable.
Oct 08, 2014 at 07:25 AM
p.44 #10The 58mm F/1.4G Thread
DF, AF-C, center point, f/1.4.
Yes, it’s possible.
Yes, it’s possible.
Oct 08, 2014 at 02:47 PM
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p.44 #11The 58mm F/1.4G Thread
Iluxa007 wrote:
DF, AF-C, center point, f/1.4.
Yes, it’s possible.
the other ones dont work, ive always used the center as well.
DF, AF-C, center point, f/1.4.
Yes, it’s possible.
the other ones dont work, ive always used the center as well.
Oct 08, 2014 at 04:24 PM
p.44 #12The 58mm F/1.4G Thread
low325 wrote:
Yes, it’s possible.the other ones don’t work, ive always used the center as well.
chuhsi1 wrote:
Just wondering...does anyone focus and recompose when shooting at 1.4? If so, how? I'd love to learn so I'm not limited to my 39 autofocus points. Thanks.
So my answer to the original question is yes, The only point I use is the center point and I focus & recompose. Works every time.
I make sure I slightly move the focus ring after I shoot the first image; then I focus and recompose the frame again. That way I get two images with focusing recomposing twice. I always do this at weddings; saves me time from looking at the screen a lot.
Iluxa007 wrote
DF, AF-C, center point, f/1.4.Yes, it’s possible.
chuhsi1 wrote:
Just wondering...does anyone focus and recompose when shooting at 1.4? If so, how? I'd love to learn so I'm not limited to my 39 autofocus points. Thanks.
So my answer to the original question is yes, The only point I use is the center point and I focus & recompose. Works every time.
I make sure I slightly move the focus ring after I shoot the first image; then I focus and recompose the frame again. That way I get two images with focusing recomposing twice. I always do this at weddings; saves me time from looking at the screen a lot.
Oct 08, 2014 at 04:41 PM
p.44 #13The 58mm F/1.4G Thread
All I know is I NEVER chimped with the D300 or D700, after the DF, all I do is chimp. It's a hard phobia to break once it's started.
Oct 08, 2014 at 05:45 PM
p.44 #15The 58mm F/1.4G Thread
That first shot is beautiful. Your wife's expression is so pure
Jason_Brook wrote:
dat ISO tho
Jason_Brook wrote:
dat ISO tho
Oct 08, 2014 at 07:05 PM
p.44 #16The 58mm F/1.4G Thread
the changing woods by mariosworld343, on FlickrOct 08, 2014 at 08:15 PM
p.44 #17The 58mm F/1.4G Thread
I love the processing on that one, supermario343
Oct 08, 2014 at 09:31 PM
p.44 #20The 58mm F/1.4G Thread
shujert wrote:
..focus shift is the change in focal point if the lens is stopped down...
Thanks for the confirmation, Shujert.
But I appreciate the heads up re: variable fine tune AF adjustments at various focusing distance, Jason.
Cheers
Dave
..focus shift is the change in focal point if the lens is stopped down...
Thanks for the confirmation, Shujert.
But I appreciate the heads up re: variable fine tune AF adjustments at various focusing distance, Jason.
Cheers
Dave
Oct 09, 2014 at 01:27 AM