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p.4 #1A7r with Canon glass. Anyone excited?
chez wrote:
Yeah it's entering winter here soon so it's a bit late so I'll wait to see what Canon announces next year. However, I'm not so sure they will be popping out with a cam with better DR next spring and even if they do what if it is an $8000 1DsX or something? What if it is 5 years more? At least with this there is a side option, one I might end up going for 2nd quarter next year.What's with all this hibernation in the winter. It's a great time of year for photography. Sunrise up here is at 7:30, sunset at 4:30. No getting up at 4:00am for the sunrise and watching the sunset at 11:00pm as I do in the summer.
Sunrises are mostly too early no matter what
(they occur either when you are in a rush to not be late or properly sleeping) and sunsets here are never remotely close to too late.
Mostly I didn't plan to spend this money now on camera stuff and spent it on other stuff already but since I do shoot a lot less during the winter season and thirst for DR during winter less often on average when I do shoot, I will just wait until a few months into 2014 to see what is announced from Canon, if anything, and am not too bothered.
I sure as heck could've made use of it the last few days though. So, so many times I wished for more DR and more MP wouldn't have hurt any of the shots either although was not as critical of an issue. Had it come out three weeks ago, I'd have been all over it.
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skibum5 wrote
ben egbert wrote
I can wait for Canon to match this. In fact a Canon mirrorless with the same specs would be great. Until then, my 5d3 will keep me happy enough. The landscape season is over until spring for this non snow lover anyway.Sunrises are mostly too early no matter what
(they occur either when you are in a rush to not be late or properly sleeping) and sunsets here are never remotely close to too late.Mostly I didn't plan to spend this money now on camera stuff and spent it on other stuff already but since I do shoot a lot less during the winter season and thirst for DR during winter less often on average when I do shoot, I will just wait until a few months into 2014 to see what is announced from Canon, if anything, and am not too bothered.
I sure as heck could've made use of it the last few days though. So, so many times I wished for more DR and more MP wouldn't have hurt any of the shots either although was not as critical of an issue. Had it come out three weeks ago, I'd have been all over it.
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Oct 21, 2013 at 12:23 PM
p.4 #2A7r with Canon glass. Anyone excited?
chez wrote:
Yeah it's entering winter here soon so it's a bit late so I'll wait to see what Canon announces next year. However, I'm not so sure they will be popping out with a cam with better DR next spring and even if they do what if it is an $8000 1DsX or something? What if it is 5 years more? At least with this there is a side option, one I might end up going for 2nd quarter next year.What's with all this hibernation in the winter. It's a great time of year for photography. Sunrise up here is at 7:30, sunset at 4:30. No getting up at 4:00am for the sunrise and watching the sunset at 11:00pm as I do in the summer.
Sunrise is no problem for me, but snow/ice is. Most of it is dirty snow at that, and if its fresh, I am not interested in driving in it. I will go out a few times maybe 20 miles from home tops. But there is usually not much of interest. I tried some moonlit shots in past years but they are curiosities and too dark for printing.
skibum5 wrote
ben egbert wrote
I can wait for Canon to match this. In fact a Canon mirrorless with the same specs would be great. Until then, my 5d3 will keep me happy enough. The landscape season is over until spring for this non snow lover anyway.Sunrise is no problem for me, but snow/ice is. Most of it is dirty snow at that, and if its fresh, I am not interested in driving in it. I will go out a few times maybe 20 miles from home tops. But there is usually not much of interest. I tried some moonlit shots in past years but they are curiosities and too dark for printing.
Oct 21, 2013 at 12:29 PM
p.4 #3A7r with Canon glass. Anyone excited?
skibum5 wrote:
Sunrises are mostly too early no matter what (they occur either when you are in a rush to not be late or properly sleeping) and sunsets here are never remotely close to too late.
Exactly!!! Unless I'm sleeping in a tent and I'm so cold and uncomfortable that getting up at dark-thirty is a relief.
I am looking at picking up a Canon T/S for my A7. So a little cross pollution from the riff-raff on the Dark Side. A7 series should be really great bodies for T/S lenses.
Comfortable ground level T/S use, no earth worm impersonation required... Yesssssssssss!
Sunrises are mostly too early no matter what
(they occur either when you are in a rush to not be late or properly sleeping) and sunsets here are never remotely close to too late.Exactly!!!
Unless I'm sleeping in a tent and I'm so cold and uncomfortable that getting up at dark-thirty is a relief. I am looking at picking up a Canon T/S for my A7. So a little cross pollution from the riff-raff on the Dark Side.
A7 series should be really great bodies for T/S lenses. Comfortable ground level T/S use, no earth worm impersonation required... Yesssssssssss!
Oct 22, 2013 at 08:11 AM
p.4 #4A7r with Canon glass. Anyone excited?
Will the auto focus be comparable in speed to Canon series 1 bodies? If so, it will get a lot of attention - especially with the pricing compared to what Canon has to offer now.
Oct 23, 2013 at 11:20 PM
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p.4 #5A7r with Canon glass. Anyone excited?
Daniel Smith wrote:
Will the auto focus be comparable in speed to Canon series 1 bodies?
I think it's a little unreasonable to expect that. But if I'll be getting the A7, I will be using it with my Canon mount lenses - what else? Maybe I'll get the native kit lens but having a whole new system alongside Canon is probably excessive for me.
Will the auto focus be comparable in speed to Canon series 1 bodies?
I think it's a little unreasonable to expect that. But if I'll be getting the A7, I will be using it with my Canon mount lenses - what else? Maybe I'll get the native kit lens but having a whole new system alongside Canon is probably excessive for me.
Oct 23, 2013 at 11:56 PM
p.4 #6A7r with Canon glass. Anyone excited?
I've said for a while that if Nikon had made a separate body with full EOS EF mount and electronics, I'd own a D800e. It looks like the Sony is nearly irresistible for using Canon lenses!
I sincerely hope Canon announces a high MP/high DR range body at a reasonable price in the near future. Otherwise, I'll need to add one of these Sony's to my gear (not switching, just adding). I'd prefer to keep my EF lenses on Canon bodies, for CPS service, if no other reason.
It's a big win for consumers, however it shakes out.
And I'm still happy with my 21MP images until I can afford to move into this new range. Maybe a year or so, as prices fall or Canon announces.
I sincerely hope Canon announces a high MP/high DR range body at a reasonable price in the near future. Otherwise, I'll need to add one of these Sony's to my gear (not switching, just adding). I'd prefer to keep my EF lenses on Canon bodies, for CPS service, if no other reason.
It's a big win for consumers, however it shakes out.
And I'm still happy with my 21MP images until I can afford to move into this new range. Maybe a year or so, as prices fall or Canon announces.
Oct 24, 2013 at 10:22 AM
p.4 #7A7r with Canon glass. Anyone excited?
I share what Jim wrote above pretty much down to the details.
Oct 24, 2013 at 11:34 AM
p.4 #8A7r with Canon glass. Anyone excited?
So what is the correct adaptor for the Canon 17-40 lens?
Oct 24, 2013 at 11:39 AM
p.4 #9A7r with Canon glass. Anyone excited?
I would not use the 17-40 on a 36 MP sensor. Heck I find the 17-40 unacceptable for my 5DII. I think the lessons learned from the D800 will also apply with the new Sony sensor as well. Needs good glass to generate the results such a senor is capable of, otherwise what's the point?
Oct 24, 2013 at 12:58 PM
p.4 #10A7r with Canon glass. Anyone excited?
galenapass wrote:
Heck I find the 17-40 unacceptable for my 5DII.
The 17-40 performs excellent on my 5D MkII cameras. Maybe your lens is decentered?
Heck I find the 17-40 unacceptable for my 5DII.
The 17-40 performs excellent on my 5D MkII cameras. Maybe your lens is decentered?
Oct 24, 2013 at 01:09 PM
p.4 #11A7r with Canon glass. Anyone excited?
I don't think so, since I shoot with both systems my yardstick for evaluating what is good on my 5DII has been set by the Nikkor 14-24mm w/adapter. The 17-40 is a poor performer in that light and I find the edge performance to be severely lacking as well as what I perceive to be reduced micro contrast by comparison.
Regardless, I don't propose to argue about the merits of a 17-40 on a 5DII and I am sure many are happy with its performance (as this is so subjective anyway), but I just can't imagine intentionally using that lens on a 36 MP sensor when there are much better options available. Personally, I would not want my lens be too much of a limiting factor after spending 2K on a what should be a fabulous sensor.
Take a look at the detail in these photos:
http://www.dyxum.com/dforum/my-first-result-with-a7r_topic102199_post1221899.html#1221899
stunning
Regardless, I don't propose to argue about the merits of a 17-40 on a 5DII and I am sure many are happy with its performance (as this is so subjective anyway), but I just can't imagine intentionally using that lens on a 36 MP sensor when there are much better options available. Personally, I would not want my lens be too much of a limiting factor after spending 2K on a what should be a fabulous sensor.
Take a look at the detail in these photos:
http://www.dyxum.com/dforum/my-first-result-with-a7r_topic102199_post1221899.html#1221899
stunning
Oct 24, 2013 at 01:35 PM
p.4 #12A7r with Canon glass. Anyone excited?
galenapass wrote:
Take a look at the detail in these photos:
http://www.dyxum.com/dforum/my-first-result-with-a7r_topic102199_post1221899.html#1221899
stunning
+1, watchout canon/nikon, every dslr shooter will think twice before they cash out their wallet for your bodies from now on
Take a look at the detail in these photos:
http://www.dyxum.com/dforum/my-first-result-with-a7r_topic102199_post1221899.html#1221899
stunning
+1, watchout canon/nikon, every dslr shooter will think twice before they cash out their wallet for your bodies from now on
Oct 24, 2013 at 03:15 PM
p.4 #13A7r with Canon glass. Anyone excited?
Metabones Smart Adapter (EF to E) Version III is what you want for adapting the 17-40, assuming you want to try to take advantage of AF on the lenses it supports.
The temptation was too great, I preordered the a7R earlier this week. I guess that qualifies as excited...
-Tim
Oct 24, 2013 at 03:28 PM
p.4 #14A7r with Canon glass. Anyone excited?
galenapass wrote:
Take a look at the detail in these photos:
http://www.dyxum.com/dforum/my-first-result-with-a7r_topic102199_post1221899.html#1221899
stunning
Too much detail!
Take a look at the detail in these photos:
http://www.dyxum.com/dforum/my-first-result-with-a7r_topic102199_post1221899.html#1221899
stunning
Too much detail!
Oct 24, 2013 at 03:31 PM
p.4 #15A7r with Canon glass. Anyone excited?
mttran wrote:
http://www.dyxum.com/dforum/my-first-result-with-a7r_topic102199_post1221899.html#1221899
stunning+1, watchout canon/nikon, every dslr shooter will think twice before they cash out their wallet for your bodies from now on
If only the Sony had 5D III AF, and the vast array of lenses. For landscapes and other subjects which don't move or move slowly Sony will be wonderful, but for many of us that shoot across a range of subjects, it's still has a lot of work to do. So it won't be a replacement for many of us, just a supplement.
Canon should be worried however, and needs to get off it's conservative fat arse fast.
galenapass wrote
Take a look at the detail in these photos:http://www.dyxum.com/dforum/my-first-result-with-a7r_topic102199_post1221899.html#1221899
stunning
If only the Sony had 5D III AF, and the vast array of lenses. For landscapes and other subjects which don't move or move slowly Sony will be wonderful, but for many of us that shoot across a range of subjects, it's still has a lot of work to do. So it won't be a replacement for many of us, just a supplement.
Canon should be worried however, and needs to get off it's conservative fat arse fast.
Oct 24, 2013 at 05:27 PM
p.4 #16A7r with Canon glass. Anyone excited?
Short review of A7R with Canon TS lenses:
http://blog.nicgranleese.com/2013/10/24/sony-a7r-review-for-architectural-photographers/
http://blog.nicgranleese.com/2013/10/24/sony-a7r-review-for-architectural-photographers/
Oct 24, 2013 at 07:01 PM
p.4 #17A7r with Canon glass. Anyone excited?
Darn, no images.
So when he was saying AF was super slow on the metabones with 24-105L, is that an old adapter and is there a newer one coming, or it that as good as it gets? I think he said it was like 7D in LV for AF speed.
So when he was saying AF was super slow on the metabones with 24-105L, is that an old adapter and is there a newer one coming, or it that as good as it gets? I think he said it was like 7D in LV for AF speed.
Oct 24, 2013 at 07:59 PM
p.4 #18A7r with Canon glass. Anyone excited?
Pixel Perfect wrote:
http://www.dyxum.com/dforum/my-first-result-with-a7r_topic102199_post1221899.html#1221899
stunning+1, watchout canon/nikon, every dslr shooter will think twice before they cash out their wallet for your bodies from now on Canon should be worried however, and needs to get off it's conservative fat arse fast.
I hope it's not too late for canon this time around....they should do something about it when shadows banding discussion all over the place years ago. They used to be FF king, no one has it...but now the FF game is no longer in their turf and their players are getting old lately
mttran wrote
galenapass wrote
Take a look at the detail in these photos:http://www.dyxum.com/dforum/my-first-result-with-a7r_topic102199_post1221899.html#1221899
stunning
I hope it's not too late for canon this time around....they should do something about it when shadows banding discussion all over the place years ago. They used to be FF king, no one has it...but now the FF game is no longer in their turf and their players are getting old lately
Oct 24, 2013 at 08:49 PM
p.4 #19A7r with Canon glass. Anyone excited?
mttran wrote:
http://www.dyxum.com/dforum/my-first-result-with-a7r_topic102199_post1221899.html#1221899
stunning+1, watchout canon/nikon, every dslr shooter will think twice before they cash out their wallet for your bodies from now on Canon should be worried however, and needs to get off it's conservative fat arse fast.I hope it's not too late for canon this time around....they should do something about it when shadows banding discussion all over the place years ago. They used to be FF king, no one has it...but now the FF game is no longer in their turf and their players are getting old lately
Don't write them off. Canon move like a glacier sometimes and have to be dragged kicking and screaming to give us what we want, but they seem to eventually get around to it. Plenty of cases where Canon eventually offered what people said they would never do so, but it's often 2 generations later. I'd will go out on a limb and say starting with next camera release other than Rebel or lower initially, we will get all new sensor. 7D II will not get 70D sensor IMO. And by all new I do mean with improved DR, banding free shadows etc.
Canon aren't stupid and they are aware of their limitations. They cannot afford yet another update cycle with same sensor technology; the tipping point has come now that Canon users can use their glass on Sony FF with super sensor. I'll bet they relied on people not jumping ship to Nikon with D800 just due to the cost of changing over. Now we can afford to keep our Canon gear and just buy a Sony body and adapter they will be much more concerned. Now of course they've been working on various prototype sensors long before Sony's FF announcement, but if this doesn't light a fire under them nothing will.
Pixel Perfect wrote
mttran wrote
galenapass wrote
Take a look at the detail in these photos:http://www.dyxum.com/dforum/my-first-result-with-a7r_topic102199_post1221899.html#1221899
stunning
Don't write them off. Canon move like a glacier sometimes and have to be dragged kicking and screaming to give us what we want, but they seem to eventually get around to it. Plenty of cases where Canon eventually offered what people said they would never do so, but it's often 2 generations later. I'd will go out on a limb and say starting with next camera release other than Rebel or lower initially, we will get all new sensor. 7D II will not get 70D sensor IMO. And by all new I do mean with improved DR, banding free shadows etc.
Canon aren't stupid and they are aware of their limitations. They cannot afford yet another update cycle with same sensor technology; the tipping point has come now that Canon users can use their glass on Sony FF with super sensor. I'll bet they relied on people not jumping ship to Nikon with D800 just due to the cost of changing over. Now we can afford to keep our Canon gear and just buy a Sony body and adapter they will be much more concerned. Now of course they've been working on various prototype sensors long before Sony's FF announcement, but if this doesn't light a fire under them nothing will.
Oct 24, 2013 at 09:06 PM
p.4 #20A7r with Canon glass. Anyone excited?
Hi Pixel Perfect,
I followed this link back from my blog post about the A7r with tilt shift lenses and saw your question about the adaptor. Can't tell you much about the adaptor, except that it was a Metabones (first time i'm needing to use one). It was what the demo camera had and supposedly Sony will give you a free one if your buy the camera. Not sure if you get a choice in brand of adaptor, or type. In the limited time I had it seemed fine for manual focusing, but not for auto focus. It was very slow. The other electronics of the lens like aperture appeared fine.
I followed this link back from my blog post about the A7r with tilt shift lenses and saw your question about the adaptor. Can't tell you much about the adaptor, except that it was a Metabones (first time i'm needing to use one). It was what the demo camera had and supposedly Sony will give you a free one if your buy the camera. Not sure if you get a choice in brand of adaptor, or type. In the limited time I had it seemed fine for manual focusing, but not for auto focus. It was very slow. The other electronics of the lens like aperture appeared fine.
Oct 24, 2013 at 10:16 PM