I purchased a smart adapter for my nex 5n. with some of the longer canon lenses, its a bit awkward to use. Still the concept is very exciting of course.
My concern however is Roger's report of significant loss of sharpness with adapters, at least when it comes to corner sharpness. my primary use for this sensor would be landscape.
still the concept is really appealing.
chez wrote:
Ben, it might be a few springs you will be waiting...and then at what price will Canon deliver?
Actually, I can only print to 17x29 or so and my 5D3 is doing a pretty good job so long as I do mine. The big game changers for me was live view focus and the Mk2 zooms. 16-35 and 24-70.
Weight and size are not critical to me. More pixels, better DR and the elimination of the AA filter get my attention. I really don't care if it has a mirror or not. I hardly ever use anything but live view focus and seldom use the viewfinder. Although I do find it works better for composition when there is too much light on the LCD.
ben egbert wrote:
Actually, I can only print to 17x29 or so and my 5D3 is doing a pretty good job so long as I do mine. The big game changers for me was live view focus and the Mk2 zooms. 16-35 and 24-70.
Weight and size are not critical to me. More pixels, better DR and the elimination of the AA filter get my attention. I really don't care if it has a mirror or not. I hardly ever use anything but live view focus and seldom use the viewfinder. Although I do find it works better for composition when there is too much light on the LCD....Show more →
Yeh, the articulating LCD on the Sony will be very well received on those days when glare makes it hard to see my LCD on the 5d2.
Glenn NK wrote:
EVF.
It's funny how some people seem to be allergic against EVF.
I've shot through optical viewfinders during the last 8 years, and I am both ready and willing to switch to EVF. I love to be able to see what my exposure looks like + a live histogram. I'm also very fond of features like focus peaking, focus magnify e.t.c.
After trying EVF on the Fuji X100s, the OVF on my 5D3 felt naked and crippled. It was almost hard to go back.
Really excited to see how well m-mount lenses do with this body. Same size as m43 but the bokeh and rendering will be magnificent in comparison with much better low light performance due to bigger photodiodes. That it will work with my 85L and 70-200 2 is just a side benefit.
Care to elaborate on the awkward part of the equation? Was it the matabones adapter?
kevindar wrote:
I purchased a smart adapter for my nex 5n. with some of the longer canon lenses, its a bit awkward to use. Still the concept is very exciting of course.
My concern however is Roger's report of significant loss of sharpness with adapters, at least when it comes to corner sharpness. my primary use for this sensor would be landscape.
still the concept is really appealing.
Had the A99 for a bit hated EvF at first then fell in love with it..... Picked up a d800e and when I first started using it while using exp. comp. I found myself saying "why isn't my image changing in the viewfinder!....."I got spoiled. I really enjoyed that aspect of the feature..... Glenn NK wrote:
EVF.
Rickuz wrote:
It's funny how some people seem to be allergic against EVF.
I've shot through optical viewfinders during the last 8 years, and I am both ready and willing to switch to EVF. I love to be able to see what my exposure looks like + a live histogram. I'm also very fond of features like focus peaking, focus magnify e.t.c.
After trying EVF on the Fuji X100s, the OVF on my 5D3 felt naked and crippled. It was almost hard to go back.
For me, I feel like the EVF is crippled when I switch from optical! I use an VF-4 on my Pens and it's one of the best in the business with 1.5X, 100% coverage and 2.4MP rez. I like to concentrate on composition and leave the heads up display off most of the time. In reasonably even and bright light it is amazing--as good or better than my 5D2 VF. On the other hand, in contrasty light--sunny day landscape--it is terrible as shadows are blocked up and highlights compressed (dim). I can't see a damn thing in even moderate shadows that are clear with my eyes or an optical finder. In low light the EVF is so bright and grainy I find it distracting would rather sight along the top of the camera. And while panning is vastly improved from a year or two ago it still looks tears/smears a little. EVFs are useful but kinda like kissing a beautiful woman with black teeth and really bad breath. If I'm using my 17mm pancake on the Pen I use my VF-1--clip-on bright line optical--instead of the VF-4 EVF. So clear and natural compared to even the best EVF.
One would hope that the A7R and Zeiss glass would make a wicked combo. I'd love to see what the Zeiss Otus could do on this sensor. If the adapters are good I'd also be eagerly anticipating great results from quite a few of the Canon lenses.
I am likely to buy it. 36mpx/high dnyamic range. Its the canon I have been waiting for.
Its very unlikely that canon will solve dynamic range and high mpx any time soon. I am tired of waiting.
I will buy the 35/2.8 for hiking and then use the a7r with my tilt shifts for landscape.
The only worry I have is that in the alt forums, they talk about red colour shift on extreme edges with wide Lecia/Zeiss's with nex 7 apsc. Because the sensor is so close to the lens in normal set up whereas with the adapter, the lens will be further away.
I will also buy this and happily forgo any more Canon DSLR purchases for some time. But, as mentioned above I will first wait and see how bad the color shift is. By the way, color shift can be fixed but it is really the smearing that is key. That can't be fixed. It would be prudent to wait and see bad or good edge performance is with wide lenses.
Michaelparris wrote:
Care to elaborate on the awkward part of the equation? Was it the matabones adapter?
It is not a metabones adapter. the awkwardness has to do with the larger lens on the smaller body. it just does not balance very well, and defeats, to a large part, the idea behind having a small camera. unfortunately, the single small canon lens that I have is the 40stm. my next smallest is the 35 1.4, AF is also slow as you would expect.
kevindar wrote:
It is not a metabones adapter. the awkwardness has to do with the larger lens on the smaller body. it just does not balance very well, and defeats, to a large part, the idea behind having a small camera. unfortunately, the single small canon lens that I have is the 40stm. my next smallest is the 35 1.4, AF is also slow as you would expect.
SchnellerGT wrote:
In my opinion, taking a smaller, lighter-weight body and pairing it with a nice heavy EF lens just defeats the purpose. If anything it throws off the balance. In the end, what do you save? A few inches in your camera bag? So not interested for the time being.
As has been pointed out by many, it's really having a better sensor that is the purpose. In fact, when I use it with my nice heavy EF lenses, I'm probably also going to be using it along with the additional vertical grip.
But, there's another very enticing factor: flexibility. I find it very appealing that I can get a high quality FF sensor in a camera body that can be adapted to take my EF lenses when I need them, or that can also use small and light lenses when I prefer a more compact pacakge. You quite literally have the choice of using almost any lens that's ever been made. Heck, you could even still use the older and smaller e-mount lenses if you want and just crop the image to APS-C size.
So the fact that the camera package won't be small with EF lenses on it is really irrelevant. Because you're not locked into only using those lenses.
Gochugogi wrote:
For me, I feel like the EVF is crippled when I switch from optical! I use an VF-4 on my Pens and it's one of the best in the business with 1.5X, 100% coverage and 2.4MP rez. I like to concentrate on composition and leave the heads up display off most of the time. In reasonably even and bright light it is amazing--as good or better than my 5D2 VF. On the other hand, in contrasty light--sunny day landscape--it is terrible as shadows are blocked up and highlights compressed (dim). I can't see a damn thing in even moderate shadows that are clear with my eyes or an optical finder. In low light the EVF is so bright and grainy I find it distracting would rather sight along the top of the camera. And while panning is vastly improved from a year or two ago it still looks tears/smears a little. EVFs are useful but kinda like kissing a beautiful woman with black teeth and really bad breath. If I'm using my 17mm pancake on the Pen I use my VF-1--clip-on bright line optical--instead of the VF-4 EVF. So clear and natural compared to even the best EVF....Show more →
If I ever bought one of these cameras it would be largely for night street photography and low light events (concerts, banquets, etc.) - can you elaborate on your experience with the EVF in these sorts of lighting situations? I have yet to use one.
