p.21 #1 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses
Lars Johnsson wrote:
I don't agree that all those lenses are bast in their class. And a lot of those are tele lenses (I wrote with the exception of Tele lenses) Who likes to use long tele lenses without any good AF and with adapters. Even you have made about 100 posts about your 70-300 and how important it was to get good AF with that lens and TC Suddenly it doesn't matter anymore or?
You can also swap to any lens when using converter, it doesn't have to be a native A7R lens. And if you like to keep your Canon mount for the future. There are still a lot of the best lenses you can find that have Canon mount but are made from other brands. Like Voigtländer and Zeiss as an example. For instance make those brands better macro lenses than your 100L that you belive is best in it's class...Show more →
I thought you meant super-teles/very long primes.
Anyway yeah AF matters a ton for 70-200/300 usage.... when doing sports/widlife/PJ work and such BUT they, especially the 70-300L since it is so relatively compact, is also awesome for nature/landscape work where it gets almost 50:50 usage with my 24-70 so in that regard it's still an important best of class lens for A7R landscape type usage IMO.
As I said the 100L is in the running (and this is the only one from list you could even point to as not optically best in class), maybe not the best optics of any macro but quite good (and some of the uber 100mm macros are only 1:2 and don't count) and it has AF and IS which can be very helpful at times for such a lens (although this lens perhaps isn't quite so relevant for an A7R user granted so maybe we'll remove it from my list).
Yeah you can by that third party MF stuff but then what about when you do go put it back on the Canon, where is the AF for quick work?
p.21 #2 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses
I agree, that's why I mentioned the 6D sensor. I have a a7R on preorder as I just don't see Canon catching up on sensor technology, in a package like the Sony, at that price point.
Honestly I'm intrigued with some of the FE lenses that have been announced too...
Rickuz wrote:
If they are working on a full frame SL1 or EOS M right now as we speak, it will surely arrive with their ancient old sensor tech, which I have zero interest in.
I highly doubt that Canon will debut their new sensor tech (if something like that even exists yet) in anything but a top dollar 1D body.
But who knows. Maybe Canon will actually try to delight us this time?
p.21 #4 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses
tsdevine wrote:
My guess is that Canon will be the next manufacturer to come out with a mirrorless FF camera (and/or maybe a FF SL1). I could see them throwing a 6D sensor in an EOS M type body....just to have something. There was some expectation that an M successor would be announced. Maybe they're working on both a M2 APS-C and MF (no pun intended) FF option.
-Tim
I doubt Canon will release FF mirrorless so quickly, even if they now have incentive. I'd be surprised to see FF mirrorless from Canon earlier than 2015 if they pursue that area. For them getting their sensor tech up to scratch is top priority be it APS-C, or FF. EOS M needs a much bigger investment to put it in a position where more than hardcore Canon fans think it's a great camera,; this means lenses, sensors, VF's and AF have to make big strides; they are coming for a long way behind Sony and Fuji and the m4/3 gang (except on IQ).
IMO and it's only my opinion, the next EOS M will use a variant of the 70D sensor. Canon's CDAF is pretty much hopeless and even their hybrid solution wasn't that good. The 70D has finally given them something to compete against the likes of the m4/3 brigade which have superb CDAF, whilst in LV mode. EOS M will definitely dual pixel tech. I doubt EOS M would get new sensor tech, but I hope I'm wrong.
p.21 #5 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses
Pixel Perfect wrote:
I doubt Canon will release FF mirrorless so quickly, even if they now have incentive. I'd be surprised to see FF mirrorless from Canon
One weird thing though is in their last major presentation they put up a curious slide that had a mystery coming symbol at the interesection between high-end and mirrorless though.
Not that it's the mirrorless I care about at this point, for most in this thread I think it is the DR first and the MP second.
p.21 #6 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses
Pixel Perfect wrote:
The 70D has finally given them something to compete against the likes of the m4/3 brigade which have superb CDAF, whilst in LV mode.
The 70D dual pixel AF is fast, but the shot to shot time (single shot mode) for the camera is as long as an ancient compact camera. Seriously. I own the 70D and used to have the E-M5; there's no comparison.
p.21 #7 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses
thw2 wrote:
The 70D dual pixel AF is fast, but the shot to shot time (single shot mode) for the camera is as long as an ancient compact camera. Seriously. I own the 70D and used to have the E-M5; there's no comparison.
I haven't used a 70D but the E-M5's CDAF's speed is almost instantaneous, no doubt helped in part by the smaller lens system.
p.21 #9 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses
chez wrote:
Why do you find this sad. We've been using 3rd party lenses on Canon bodies for years. Now we have the ability to use a 3rd party body with our Canon lens. I think this is something to rejoice over rather than thinking it is sad.
Damn straight! This new Sony sensor is exactly what I have been waiting for....and at a good price as well.
p.21 #11 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses
EB-1 wrote:
I use the 70-200/4 IS a lot for landscapes. I hope it will work on the A7r body and IQ holds up.
EBH
Michaelparris wrote:
That could possibly be a dream combination.....
I still have concerns about the actual battery life of the A7r. I frequently pan and stitch with 3-shot bracketing much of the time, so it's not unusual to shoot 2000 frames in a day. The 1Ds III or 5D III will capture that amount on one battery, though the 1Ds III can capture much more.
p.21 #12 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses
EB-1 wrote:
I still have concerns about the actual battery life of the A7r. I frequently pan and stitch with 3-shot bracketing much of the time, so it's not unusual to shoot 2000 frames in a day. The 1Ds III or 5D III will capture that amount on one battery, though the 1Ds III can capture much more.
EBH
if it is anything like the A99...it will suck badly. One of the reasons i no longer own that camera.
p.21 #13 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses
EB-1 wrote:
I still have concerns about the actual battery life of the A7r. I frequently pan and stitch with 3-shot bracketing much of the time, so it's not unusual to shoot 2000 frames in a day. The 1Ds III or 5D III will capture that amount on one battery, though the 1Ds III can capture much more.
EBH
That sir will require possibly 5 or 6 spare batteries. Sony is only claiming 300 or so shots, about as bad as my Oly OM-D.
p.21 #16 · Sony A7 and A7r Full Frame with Canon Lenses
EB-1 wrote:
I use the 70-200/4 IS a lot for landscapes. I hope it will work on the A7r body and IQ holds up.
EBH
Michaelparris wrote:
That could possibly be a dream combination.....
EB-1 wrote:
I still have concerns about the actual battery life of the A7r. I frequently pan and stitch with 3-shot bracketing much of the time, so it's not unusual to shoot 2000 frames in a day. The 1Ds III or 5D III will capture that amount on one battery, though the 1Ds III can capture much more.
EBH
Pixel Perfect wrote:
That sir will require possibly 5 or 6 spare batteries. Sony is only claiming 300 or so shots, about as bad as my Oly OM-D.
I was hoping for some user data on that. The Canon batteries usually last much longer than stated for example.
Suddenly it doesn't matter anymore or?
