Lars Johnsson wrote: skibum5 wrote: Lars Johnsson wrote: snapsy wrote: jamesmorophoto wrote:
this thread is kind of sad: lots of people invested in canon glass that are so dissatisfied w/ current canon offerings that they\'re willing to go w/ an entirely new brand as long as they can use their lenses...
I see it as a great thing and perhaps a significant inflection point in the industry. Putting aside the inability to AF (or at least AF quickly), the idea that a photographer can match best-of-class lenses from Canikon to a third-party FF body is pretty amazing. Photographers have learned to take the lack of interoperability for granted but it\'s pretty ridiculous when you think about it. I wouldn\'t expect Canikon to make an interchangeable body like the A7/A7r but certainly Sony will hold their feet to the fire to keep them innovating on their own bodies now that the locked-in-system premium is tossed out the window.
You can\'t put aside the inability to AF (or having good/fast AF). And even attach your lenses without buying converters.
And very very few lenses from Canon are best of it\'s class when you take away the tele lenses which are not good with adapters and no AF. So why not go all the way and upgrade both sensor and lenses to best in it\'s class
It\'s fun to read all these threads about the new Sony cameras. And about all the people that will change from their Canon body to these new cameras. Because their Canon sensor is not good enough. And then you see what lenses the use and what lenses they gonna adapt to their new camera.
(I\'m probably buying the A7R) And it\'s probably a great thing as you wrote. But except from a few unique Canon lenses like the TS-E very very few are best-of-class when you take away the long tele lenses. I belive this new camera will be much better for the people that already use MF lenses.
Well the 24-70 II covers a pretty key range and that is best in class. So is the 70-200 f/2.8 II and the 70-200 f/4 IS and the 70-300L and, as you mention, the 24 T&S II and the 17 T&S. The macros 100L holds it\'s own. That covers quite a lot there.
Plus the slight problem that if you swap to all native A7R lenses then what the heck do you use on your 5D3 or whatnot If we are going to switch all our lenses too maybe the Nikon world is a safer bet than going Sony I think.
I don\'t agree that all those lenses are bast in their class. And a lot of those are tele lenses (I wrote with the exception of Tele lenses) Who likes to use long tele lenses without any good AF and with adapters. Even you have made about 100 posts about your 70-300 and how important it was to get good AF with that lens and TC Suddenly it doesn\'t matter anymore or?
You can also swap to any lens when using converter, it doesn\'t have to be a native A7R lens. And if you like to keep your Canon mount for the future. There are still a lot of the best lenses you can find that have Canon mount but are made from other brands. Like Voigtländer and Zeiss as an example. For instance make those brands better macro lenses than your 100L that you belive is best in it\'s class
I thought you meant supre-teles.
Anyway yeah AF matters a ton for 70-200/300 usage.... when doing sports/widlife/PJ work and such BUT they, especially the 70-300L since it is so relatively compact, is also awesome for nature/landscape work where it gets almost 50:50 usage with my 24-70 so in that regard it\'s still an important best of class lens for A7R landscape type usage IMO.
As I said the 100L is in the running (and this is the only one from list you could even point to as not optically best in class), maybe not the best optics of any macro but quite good (and some of the uber 100mm macros are only 1:2 and don\'t count) and it has AF and IS which can be very helpful at times for such a lens (although this lens perhaps isn\'t quite so relevant for an A7R user granted so maybe we\'ll remove it from my list).
Yeah you can by that third party MF stuff but then what about when you do go put it back on the Canon, where is the AF for quick work?
Oct 27, 2013 at 07:45 PM
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If we are going to switch all our lenses too maybe the Nikon world is a safer bet than going Sony I think.