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Archive 2013 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS

  
 
ken.vs.ryu
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p.6 #1 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS


I'm really enjoying the images Phillip. Can you please show the lens with the camera at 16 and 70.



Phillip Reeve wrote:
I can return it for 30 days and got it directly from Sony.de so that shouldn't be a problem, someone mentioned that they know about their centering issues and are quite cooperative.

new sample images:
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5334/9852599484_e58c2d2a67_c.jpg
70mm_f5.6_SEL1670F4Z_FullResolution (8 von 8) by reevedata, on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7436/9852602474_434f7efbec_c.jpg
SEL1670F4Z_FullResolution (6 von 8) by reevedata, on Flickr

hmm, mittelmäßige flare leistung
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2836/9852646686_cb4b0fc0c6_c.jpg
SEL1670F4Z_FullResolution (5 von 8) by reevedata, on Flickr

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3813/9852604604_1a826782f3_c.jpg
SEL1670F4Z_FullResolution (4 von 8) by reevedata, on Flickr

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5457/9852699183_fc0ca9b8be_c.jpg
SEL1670F4Z_FullResolution (3 von 8) by reevedata, on Flickr

wehe mir erzählt nochmal jemand, dass ich da einen Staubfleck habe, das weiß ich
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5500/9852650836_3e3e3884fd_c.jpg
16mm_f11_SEL1670F4Z_FullResolution (2 von 8) by reevedata, on Flickr

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5491/9852607684_6f5aa51a31_c.jpg
SEL1670F4Z_FullResolution (1 von 8) by reevedata, on
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Sep 21, 2013 at 07:11 AM
Phillip Reeve
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p.6 #2 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS


ken.vs.ryu wrote:
I'm really enjoying the images Phillip. Can you please show the lens with the camera at 16 and 70.

sure






Sep 21, 2013 at 07:20 AM
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p.6 #3 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS


The real life pictures look good and make you forget the flaws in your tests!


Sep 21, 2013 at 08:34 AM
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p.6 #4 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS


After realizing that my copy was decentered I was pissed off quite a bit so I didn't publish a 2nd test series I shot.
But as I have only shown the bad corner @70mm before it is only fair to show the better one as well.


70mmCenterV2 by reevedata, on Flickr


70mmMidframeV2 by reevedata, on Flickr


70mmCornerV2 by reevedata, on Flickr


The full resolution test images can be found here:

70mm_f11_SEL1670F4Z_FullResolution by reevedata, on Flickr



Sep 23, 2013 at 03:58 PM
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p.6 #5 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS


So the lens is actually quite good (except the decenter issue )..

Oh, I can feel the itch



Sep 23, 2013 at 10:54 PM
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p.6 #6 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS


They will sell a stack of these. Will be good to see how a good copy fares at f4-f5.6.


Sep 24, 2013 at 01:50 AM
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p.6 #7 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS


Given the photozone statements about sony qc it will be interesting to see how many get returned.


Sep 24, 2013 at 01:58 AM
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p.6 #8 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS


While I trust and respect photozone, sometimes I wonder if they have a problematic/faulty NEX body (I am assuming they keep using the same body). Every time we test, we test the combination of a body plus the lens, camera bodies can be faulty/decentered too.

Please note I have no personal experience with NEX.



Sep 24, 2013 at 07:08 AM
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p.6 #9 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS


I've had some experience with Sony QC as well: I bought an A-mount 16-50 once, and as the first copy was slightly decentered, I returned it, hoping for a better copy. I shouldn't have done that. Copies 2-5 were utterly horrible - at no aperture were they even remotely as good as the first copy was already wide open (apart from a slightly underperforming left border at infinity). Copy 7 was about like the first one, and I accepted it, as for the intended main use it was quite good enough. I did check for sensor misalignment.

Good luck, Phillip!



Sep 24, 2013 at 07:43 AM
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p.6 #10 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS


mudo wrote:
I've had some experience with Sony QC as well: I bought an A-mount 16-50 once, and as the first copy was slightly decentered, I returned it, hoping for a better copy. I shouldn't have done that. Copies 2-5 were utterly horrible - at no aperture were they even remotely as good as the first copy was already wide open (apart from a slightly underperforming left border at infinity). Copy 7 was about like the first one, and I accepted it, as for the intended main use it was quite good enough. I did check for sensor misalignment.

Good luck, Phillip!

wow, 7 copies thats pretty bad luck!

two more "sexy" images of it on the Nex-6




SEL1855 for comparison



Sep 24, 2013 at 04:06 PM
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p.6 #11 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS


^porn


Sep 26, 2013 at 08:01 PM
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p.6 #12 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS


some more full resolution samples


SEL1670Z_FullResolution (12 von 12) by reevedata, on Flickr


SEL1670Z_FullResolution (11 von 12) by reevedata, on Flickr


SEL1670Z_FullResolution (10 von 12) by reevedata, on Flickr


SEL1670Z_FullResolution (9 von 12) by reevedata, on Flickr


SEL1670Z_FullResolution (8 von 12) by reevedata, on Flickr


SEL1670Z_FullResolution (7 von 12) by reevedata, on Flickr


SEL1670Z_FullResolution (6 von 12) by reevedata, on Flickr


SEL1670Z_FullResolution (5 von 12) by reevedata, on Flickr


SEL1670Z_FullResolution (4 von 12) by reevedata, on Flickr

ganz frei von Zwiebelgeruch ist es nicht

SEL1670Z_FullResolution (3 von 12) by reevedata, on Flickr


SEL1670Z_FullResolution (2 von 12) by reevedata, on Flickr


SEL1670Z_FullResolution (1 von 12) by reevedata, on Flickr



Sep 27, 2013 at 07:39 AM
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p.6 #13 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS


thank you for the pictures!

I received mine yesterday. I received two copies actually, that I will compare to each other and to other lenses I own. I will post samples. First impressions are rather good. The handling is good, it's quite small and light and the zoom ring is pleasant to use. Image quality seems quite good as well, but no copy seems to be perfect. We'll see.



Sep 27, 2013 at 08:04 AM
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p.6 #14 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS


Thanks again. Colors and contrast are very good.


Sep 27, 2013 at 08:56 AM
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p.6 #15 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS


Decentering is a common issue. I had several lenses from different brands that also were decentered. A few examples:
- Zeiss 21mm Distagon ZE
- Fujifilm XF 14mm
- Zeiss 35 Sonnar on my RX1 (I contacted Sony and there are no questions asked, I got a new one)

A guy that bought one of my lenses told me that his expensive Zeiss 15mm also had to go back because of decentering.



Sep 27, 2013 at 09:18 AM
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p.6 #16 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS


Ok, so after two days of testing I can confirm that both copies are slightly decentered. One is great from 16-28 but then shows weaknesses untill the long end. The other is perfect from 30 to 70, but is weak at 16 to 24, with f/8 being worse in the corner than f/4 (?).

It is a bit disapointing. Both are probably going back.



Sep 28, 2013 at 07:33 AM
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p.6 #17 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS


Hm.. early batches QC problems?

Phillip despite your nice pics, will you return it or keep it?



Sep 28, 2013 at 07:48 AM
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p.6 #18 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS


Phillip, I was wondering, too. I think you said you'd know after a week?


Sep 29, 2013 at 07:28 PM
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p.6 #19 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS


More samples w/ nex7 at dcwatch:
SEL1670 Samples



Sep 30, 2013 at 11:26 AM
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p.6 #20 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS


Do you have the contax 35-70 to compare?


Sep 30, 2013 at 12:27 PM
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