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Archive 2013 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS

mco_970
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p.3 #1 · p.3 #1 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS

Interesting results, Phillip. The Zeiss looks good overall in this set, and esp. at f/8-f/11.

What is your impression from working with the files on this set?

And thank you again for taking the time to do all of this work.

Sep 18, 2013 at 08:58 AM

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p.3 #2 · p.3 #2 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS

Quoting Phillip's post to bring it to this page for discussion.

Phillip Reeve wrote:
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5458/9800743583_b1f7f7cbe9_o.jpg
19mmCenter by reevedata, on Flickr

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2863/9800658825_c62f13c640_o.jpg
19mmMidframe by reevedata, on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7444/9800688236_acb1282db4_o.jpg
19mmrCorner by reevedata, on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7444/9800783406_419a98dfb1_o.jpg
19mmCornerF by reevedata, on Flickr

Sep 18, 2013 at 09:00 AM

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p.3 #3 · p.3 #3 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS

The rendering is certainly the best but man, F11?

Sep 18, 2013 at 09:12 AM

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p.3 #4 · p.3 #4 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS

mco_970 wrote:
Interesting results, Phillip. The Zeiss looks good overall in this set, and esp. at f/8-f/11.

What is your impression from working with the files on this set?

And thank you again for taking the time to do all of this work.

i haven't really worked with them yet, sorry

likes are always welcome btw

28mmCenter by reevedata, on Flickr

28mmMidframe by reevedata, on Flickr

28mmMidframeCloser by reevedata, on Flickr

28mmRightCorner by reevedata, on Flickr

28mmLeftCorner by reevedata, on Flickr

Sep 18, 2013 at 09:49 AM

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p.3 #5 · p.3 #5 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS

Hnh! This is pretty good performance! thanks, Philip!

Sep 18, 2013 at 10:01 AM

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p.3 #6 · p.3 #6 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS

zhangyue wrote:
Hnh! This is pretty good performance! thanks, Philip!

Totally agreed. It seems to have a very flat field curvature too.

Sep 18, 2013 at 10:10 AM

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p.3 #7 · p.3 #7 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS

35mmCenter by reevedata, on Flickr

35mmMidframe by reevedata, on Flickr

35mmMidframeCloser by reevedata, on Flickr

35mmCornerRight by reevedata, on Flickr

35mmCornerLeft by reevedata, on Flickr

Sep 18, 2013 at 10:23 AM

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p.3 #8 · p.3 #8 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS

I forgot my Minolta 35-70/3.5 at home

wait for the next one, the Sigma 60/2.8 is the only awesome lens in this whole set and the longer focal lenghts are a weakness of the Zeiss, so the Sigma destroys the Zeiss.

50mmCenter by reevedata, on Flickr

50mmMidframe by reevedata, on Flickr

50mmMidframeCloser by reevedata, on Flickr

this one is mislabeled, it is the right corner

50mmCornerRight by reevedata, on Flickr

and this one the left corner

50mmCornerLeft by reevedata, on Flickr

Sep 18, 2013 at 10:52 AM

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p.3 #9 · p.3 #9 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS

60mmCenter by reevedata, on Flickr

60mmMidframe by reevedata, on Flickr

60mmMidframeCloser by reevedata, on Flickr

60mmCornerLeft by reevedata, on Flickr

60mmCornerRight by reevedata, on Flickr

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Sep 18, 2013 at 11:20 AM

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p.3 #10 · p.3 #10 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS

Hi Phillip-

Just wanted to confirm: the lens in that last post is the Sigma 60/2.8, not the Sigma 19/2.8?

Sep 18, 2013 at 11:23 AM

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p.3 #11 · p.3 #11 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS

alwang wrote:
Hi Phillip-

Just wanted to confirm: the lens in that last post is the Sigma 60/2.8, not the Sigma 19/2.8?
oops

edit: corrected

Sep 18, 2013 at 11:23 AM

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p.3 #12 · p.3 #12 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS

Thanks much for going for the lens and all this work here.
I cancelled and will reconsider after all the Nex Rx dust has settled.

Sep 18, 2013 at 11:42 AM

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p.3 #13 · p.3 #13 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS

At distance, I'd say it looks pretty good. It's certainly not going to beat a set of good primes, but still, pretty good.

The "closer" stuff is interesting - surprising that it (and the other lenses) would do so much worse than the 1855 here. Focus issues? (curvature or whatever).

Sep 18, 2013 at 11:54 AM

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p.3 #14 · p.3 #14 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS

It was pretty good until past 50mm, I feel sorry for the final KO. I must say I am disappointed. there are many zoom perform much consistent over the range like Canikon and sony zeiss 24-70 f2.8. even 24-105, 24-120 F4 Canikon. Consider this is a f4 APS-C

Realistically, about 80%, I would say we use WA for landscape which require corner, and tele for people, which is not. But This is not a lens made history but just another Sony zoom.

Unless the copy variation?

Edit: color is nice though, I bet flare performance good too from its clarity, but I know that already, the famous T* coating works

Sep 18, 2013 at 11:56 AM

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p.3 #15 · p.3 #15 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS

The Sony/Zeiss 24-70 f2.8 isn't particularly great at the long end, either.

Sep 18, 2013 at 12:13 PM

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p.3 #16 · p.3 #16 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS

Can you make some on one of those wierd steps between f8 and f11? Im for example using f9 quite a bit with my old zoom lens.. cause f8 is sharp but not that much DOF and not "perfectly even" but f11 is starting to be too soft.

Otherwise, I think it really is close to old 16-80. How much CA does it have without using CA removing? Btw. is it distortion corrected or not? (that could actually explain those corners too)

If you cant check it, just upload few RAW files (16, 28, 35, 50, 70 @ f9 or so). I can check it and see what I can squeeze out of it.

Sep 18, 2013 at 12:30 PM

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p.3 #17 · p.3 #17 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS

Taylor Sherman wrote:
The "closer" stuff is interesting - surprising that it (and the other lenses) would do so much worse than the 1855 here. Focus issues? (curvature or whatever).

i believe the 18-55mm has field curvature that curves inward while the new zeiss has field curvature that curves out (at least at the wide end).

Sep 18, 2013 at 12:33 PM

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p.3 #18 · p.3 #18 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS

sebboh wrote:
i believe the 18-55mm has field curvature that curves inward while the new zeiss has field curvature that curves out (at least at the wide end).

That would be consistent with Zeiss' most lens designs (very few exceptions like the Sonnar 50/1.5 ZM).

Sep 18, 2013 at 12:44 PM

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p.3 #19 · p.3 #19 · Carl Zeiss Vario-Tessar E 4/16-70 ZA OSS

sebboh wrote:
i believe the 18-55mm has field curvature that curves inward while the new zeiss has field curvature that curves out (at least at the wide end).

i had the same thought

Mescalamba wrote:
Can you make some on one of those wierd steps between f8 and f11? Im for example using f9 quite a bit with my old zoom lens.. cause f8 is sharp but not that much DOF and not "perfectly even" but f11 is starting to be too soft.

Otherwise, I think it really is close to old 16-80. How much CA does it have without using CA removing? Btw. is it distortion corrected or not? (that could actually explain those corners too)

If you cant check it, just upload few RAW files (16, 28, 35, 50, 70 @ f9 or so). I...Show more →
The charts on page 1 are taken without CA correction, i would say better than the kit but not by much.

Distortion isn't corrected.

here are some "real world" images, mostly at f9. If you would like to see the raw just send me an email @ reeve.phillipgmail.com