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p.79 #1Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
...erm, AND 35mm only...
Oct 16, 2013 at 02:31 AM
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p.79 #2Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Fixed lens cameras must be smaller than the same but with interchangeable lenses. Which is why the RX-1 is what it is: the smallest package for FF. Anyone wishing for more features can get an A7. Sounds logical to me.
Oct 16, 2013 at 02:40 AM
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p.79 #3Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
The existing E mount adapters (M-->E,...) will work with these cameras, right?
Oct 16, 2013 at 02:41 AM
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p.79 #4Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
These are the lens release dates I saw on dpreview. Since A7r does not have kit option, Sony is essentially releasing A7r with only 35/2.8 at December launch.

Model MSRP Availability
24-70mm F4 Carl Zeiss OSS $1199 February 2014
70-200mm F4 Sony G OSS TBD TBD
35mm F2.8 Carl Zeiss $799 December 2013
55mm F1.8 Carl Zeiss $999 January 2014
Oct 16, 2013 at 02:45 AM
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p.79 #5Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
BA-photos wrote:
The existing E mount adapters (M-->E,...) will work with these cameras, right?

Yes, the Camerstore TV video demos a Metabones with the EF 17-40 and slow but working AF. Certainly regular manual adapters will work.

Mike
Oct 16, 2013 at 02:52 AM
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p.79 #6Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Yes, The Camera Store used both cameras with a Leica Summilux 50, and Steve Huff mentions using his with a Lux 50 and also a Leica 35.
Oct 16, 2013 at 02:56 AM
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p.79 #7Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
mcbroomf wrote:
BA-photos wroteThe existing E mount adapters (M-->E,...) will work with these cameras, right?
Yes, the Camerstore TV video demos a Metabones with the EF 17-40 and slow but working AF. Certainly regular manual adapters will work.

Mike


I wouldn't be the least surprised if many of us had to upgrade at least some of our adapters due to vignetting issues, and tighter tolerance requirements with the FF cameras.

I'm less worried about M->E adapters than longer ones for SLR lenses.
Oct 16, 2013 at 02:56 AM
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p.79 #8Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
philber wrote:
Yes, The Camera Store used both cameras with a Leica Summilux 50, and Steve Huff mentions using his with a Lux 50 and also a Leica 35.


How is it possible they did not try a wider angle anything?? Perhaps a testimony how niche'd we are here :-)
Oct 16, 2013 at 03:05 AM
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p.79 #9Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
I haven't seen anyone else link to this yet. He reports good results with wide m-mount lenses on the A7R.

http://briansmith.com/sony-a7r-field-test/
Oct 16, 2013 at 03:16 AM
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p.79 #10Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
The fact that nobody rushed to do just that makes me wonder whether that was not a condition imposed by Sony in order to be among the Happy Few who had toys in advance to play with. Officially, those cams had firmware that wasn't yet finalised...
Oct 16, 2013 at 03:18 AM
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p.79 #11Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Does anyone know the differences between the Metabones EF->NEX adapters versions II and III well enough to predict whether a version II will work with the A7?
Oct 16, 2013 at 03:21 AM
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p.79 #12Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Hmm, I was thinking about getting an RX1, but now I am wondering if I should get an A7 instead. I don't need the 36MP, as I already have a D800 and prefer 24MP in any case, but the A7 would be a really nice addition to my system, with a high-res EVF For improved focusing, and of course, the Sony colour might be an improvement. I do prefer an OVF and DSLR handling, but there is definitely a place in my kit for a smaller body. I would simply keep all my existing lenses, and add this camera, plus maybe the 35/2.8 and definitely a few of those anemic batteries. If it works well with my system, I might even, *gasp*, consider selling the D800. I would replace it with an E-M1 for all-round use, probably, family, action, macro, all that. Key would be if someone makes an electronic adapter for Nikon, to get proper EXIF.

I am a bit disappointed with the base ISO of 200, to be honest, (although there seems to be some confusion about that, maybe it is 100 after all?) and the camera isn't as beautiful as it could be, but it isn't horrible either, just a bit clunky around the EVF, so I could live with it
Oct 16, 2013 at 03:28 AM
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p.79 #13Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
The Sony UK specs sheet mentions base ISO of 100.

Also, the video introduction made it sound like only the 7r had the gapless and directional microlenses. Although I have not seen a reliable spec sheet to confirm that. Has anyone seen confirmation on this point?
Oct 16, 2013 at 03:45 AM
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p.79 #14Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
LightShow wrote:


Kenta from Sony Imaging Devision
Earlier quoteThe name "NEX" will no longer be used, all future cameras will fall under the Alpha umbrella.


What are we gonna do with the Sony NEX thread and Sony Alpha thread here on the Alt board? New headers, Sony APS and full frame threads, or just keep them combined no matter the sensor size
Oct 16, 2013 at 03:50 AM
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p.79 #15Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
I also picked up that only the 7r would have the offset micro-lenses, which was speciafically linked to improved edge and colour performance. It remains to be seen how much the lesser pixel density of the A7 mitigates the R's advantage.
Oct 16, 2013 at 03:53 AM
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p.79 #16Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
So basically, the 7r will be available in December, and only the Zeiss 35/2.8 should be available by then. Still some time to go.

I am only interested in the 7r, eventhough I don't really care for 36 mp, but the offset microlenses and the lack of AA filter are all very appealing for my ZM lenses. Otherwise, I have high hopes in the 35/2.8 and 55/1.8 as they both seem stellar.
Oct 16, 2013 at 03:56 AM
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p.79 #17Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
This guy reports slight red color shift with ZM 21 on the A7r, but the 50 looks ok.

http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_643b266c0102e29p.html
Oct 16, 2013 at 03:58 AM
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p.79 #18Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
The ZM 21 being very hard to accomodate, too hard even for the NEX 5N/R/T/6, seeing "only" color shift suggests that the ZM 18 may be OK, or the Elmar 24. That would be fine as far as I am concerned, as these are 2 lenses I own...:-)
Oct 16, 2013 at 04:06 AM
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p.79 #19Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
The ZM 21/2.8 has actually the same angle of incidence as the ZM 18/4. The ZM 21/4.5 is extremely bad even on the M9.
Oct 16, 2013 at 04:10 AM
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p.79 #20Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
I think it's a great move that they're making things weather sealed... can't really underestimate that. I think Sony does listen, perhaps even when we think they're not...

Q - read dpreview intro. Are we expecting the A7 to have a99 type AF capabilities?!

Any news on a fast tele or fast semi wide or something that I'd like to use?

Oh, and are these things using normal focal plane shutters (eg noisy) or are they leaf, or fully electronic or ?
Oct 16, 2013 at 04:33 AM
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