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Archive 2013Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
p.78 #1Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Finally ordered a7r without even know A7R having microlens and body quality. Hope it is true. hi, can't give myself room to regrets.
Oct 16, 2013 at 12:52 AM
p.78 #2Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
before I go, looking forward to all the awesome photos from u guys, and regardless of personal preferences, kudos to sony 
Oct 16, 2013 at 12:54 AM
p.78 #3Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
HopeIsEternal wrote:
Seems like a lot of people have too much money burning holes in their pockets with all the people saying their pre-ordering one or two even before the performance is known!
With having to replace my Sony A850 I was thinking that if the FF NEX was all the rumors claimed it would be I might go with it and kill two birds with one stone (ie, get FF and downsize to compact NEX body in one) but the following issues will probably make me go with a real DSLR and maybe a NEX6 or RX100 for compactness:
1. God awful fps....Show more →
People can complain about anything. From the spec sheet, I don't see any aspect of this camera as "abysmal," "god-awful," or designed to "screw" anyone. That any of these specs "rule out" any kind of photography speaks more to the limitations of the photographer than the camera.
And if you think a $1000 for a 55mm non-stabilized f/1.8 lens is "ridiculous sum," that anything less than "thousands of people" will pay for, you should look into what Leica is charging for the 50mm APO ASPH (Apparently, they can't make them fast enough at $7000 apiece). Or the $3000 Summilux that the reviewer at this site is using to test the resolution of the camera. And neither of those lenses even have autofocus.
Arka C.
Edited on Oct 16, 2013 at 01:02 AM · View previous versions
Seems like a lot of people have too much money burning holes in their pockets with all the people saying their pre-ordering one or two even before the performance is known!
With having to replace my Sony A850 I was thinking that if the FF NEX was all the rumors claimed it would be I might go with it and kill two birds with one stone (ie, get FF and downsize to compact NEX body in one) but the following issues will probably make me go with a real DSLR and maybe a NEX6 or RX100 for compactness:
1. God awful fps....Show more →
People can complain about anything. From the spec sheet, I don't see any aspect of this camera as "abysmal," "god-awful," or designed to "screw" anyone. That any of these specs "rule out" any kind of photography speaks more to the limitations of the photographer than the camera.
And if you think a $1000 for a 55mm non-stabilized f/1.8 lens is "ridiculous sum," that anything less than "thousands of people" will pay for, you should look into what Leica is charging for the 50mm APO ASPH (Apparently, they can't make them fast enough at $7000 apiece). Or the $3000 Summilux that the reviewer at this site is using to test the resolution of the camera. And neither of those lenses even have autofocus.
Arka C.
Edited on Oct 16, 2013 at 01:02 AM · View previous versions
Oct 16, 2013 at 12:56 AM
p.78 #4Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
http://www.imaging-resource.com/camera-reviews/sony/a7r/
Sensor.
The Sony A7R is based around a 36.4-megapixel, RGB Bayer-filtered, Exmor CMOS image sensor with approximately the same dimensions as a 35mm film frame. Total resolution is 36.8-megapixels. Sensor size is 35.9 x 24.0mm.
Unlike that of its sibling, the A7, the Sony A7R's sensor doesn't include on-chip phase detection autofocus pixels. However, it does include a low-pass filter-free design for maximum resolution (at the expense of possible moiré), and it features gapless microlenses whose position has been tuned to avoid image quality issues with light arriving at high incidence angles, as in the corners of the image.
According to Sony, the...Show more →
http://www.imaging-resource.com/camera-reviews/sony/a7/
Sensor. The Sony A7 is based around a 24.3-megapixel, RGB Bayer-filtered, Exmor CMOS image sensor with approximately the same dimensions as a 35mm film frame. Total resolution is 24.7-megapixels, and the design includes on-chip phase detection autofocus pixels. Sensor size is 35.8 x 23.9mm.
Performance. The Sony A7 isn't a camera you'll select for sports, with relatively sedate burst shooting performance. That will likely be forgiven by photographers hooked on its pairing of a huge sensor, compact body and affordable price, though. With focus and exposure locked from the first frame, you can shoot at up to 5 frames per second. With...Show more →
So it looks like only the A7R has the offset micro lenses.
And it looks like they moved the remote from the drive mode, WE CAN SHOOT BRACKETED SHOTS WITH THE REMOTE!!!!
Edited on Oct 16, 2013 at 01:06 AM · View previous versions
Sensor.
The Sony A7R is based around a 36.4-megapixel, RGB Bayer-filtered, Exmor CMOS image sensor with approximately the same dimensions as a 35mm film frame. Total resolution is 36.8-megapixels. Sensor size is 35.9 x 24.0mm.
Unlike that of its sibling, the A7, the Sony A7R's sensor doesn't include on-chip phase detection autofocus pixels. However, it does include a low-pass filter-free design for maximum resolution (at the expense of possible moiré), and it features gapless microlenses whose position has been tuned to avoid image quality issues with light arriving at high incidence angles, as in the corners of the image.
According to Sony, the...Show more →
http://www.imaging-resource.com/camera-reviews/sony/a7/
Sensor. The Sony A7 is based around a 24.3-megapixel, RGB Bayer-filtered, Exmor CMOS image sensor with approximately the same dimensions as a 35mm film frame. Total resolution is 24.7-megapixels, and the design includes on-chip phase detection autofocus pixels. Sensor size is 35.8 x 23.9mm.
Performance. The Sony A7 isn't a camera you'll select for sports, with relatively sedate burst shooting performance. That will likely be forgiven by photographers hooked on its pairing of a huge sensor, compact body and affordable price, though. With focus and exposure locked from the first frame, you can shoot at up to 5 frames per second. With...Show more →
So it looks like only the A7R has the offset micro lenses.
And it looks like they moved the remote from the drive mode, WE CAN SHOOT BRACKETED SHOTS WITH THE REMOTE!!!!
Edited on Oct 16, 2013 at 01:06 AM · View previous versions
Oct 16, 2013 at 12:58 AM
p.78 #5Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
naturephoto1 wrote:
Do we know yet if the cameras can accept a remote cable and what the longest time shutter speeds that the can be used?
Rich
that was my first question, too. B&H has the Sony - RM-VPR1 cable listed as an optional accessory, Adorama does not. Previous rumors had stated the remote would be IR wireless only.
Do we know yet if the cameras can accept a remote cable and what the longest time shutter speeds that the can be used?
Rich
that was my first question, too. B&H has the Sony - RM-VPR1 cable listed as an optional accessory, Adorama does not. Previous rumors had stated the remote would be IR wireless only.
Oct 16, 2013 at 01:02 AM
p.78 #6Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Press release:
SAN DIEGO, Oct. 15, 2013 – Sony’s new A7 and A7R digital cameras are the world’s smallest full-frame interchangeable lens models 2. Highly anticipated by professional photographers and imaging enthusiasts alike, the two new cameras offer an unmatched combination of creativity, customizability and portability.
The A7R model features a 36.4 effective megapixel 35mm Exmor® CMOS sensor – the highest resolution sensor in the history of Sony’s A line – with no optical low pass filter for added resolving power and increased image detail. The A7 model boasts an impressive 24.3 effective megapixel 35mm Exmor® CMOS sensor and an innovative fast Hybrid AF...Show more →
Edited on Oct 16, 2013 at 01:10 AM · View previous versions
SAN DIEGO, Oct. 15, 2013 – Sony’s new A7 and A7R digital cameras are the world’s smallest full-frame interchangeable lens models 2. Highly anticipated by professional photographers and imaging enthusiasts alike, the two new cameras offer an unmatched combination of creativity, customizability and portability.
The A7R model features a 36.4 effective megapixel 35mm Exmor® CMOS sensor – the highest resolution sensor in the history of Sony’s A line – with no optical low pass filter for added resolving power and increased image detail. The A7 model boasts an impressive 24.3 effective megapixel 35mm Exmor® CMOS sensor and an innovative fast Hybrid AF...Show more →
Edited on Oct 16, 2013 at 01:10 AM · View previous versions
Oct 16, 2013 at 01:03 AM
p.78 #7Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
hmm different review sites seem to be in disagreement about a fair number of features. might have to wait a bit before we know the truth.
in any event, i want one!
in any event, i want one!
Oct 16, 2013 at 01:04 AM
p.78 #8Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
"According to Sony, the A7R's image sensor will yield the highest image quality of any Alpha-series camera to date."
"Sony tells us it aims to have 10 FE lenses by the end of next year, and 15 lenses by the end of 2015"
"Sony tells us it aims to have 10 FE lenses by the end of next year, and 15 lenses by the end of 2015"
Oct 16, 2013 at 01:05 AM
p.78 #9Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
uhoh7 wrote:
"According to Sony, the A7R's image sensor will yield the highest image quality of any Alpha-series camera to date."
"Sony tells us it aims to have 10 FE lenses by the end of next year, and 15 lenses by the end of 2015"
Me thinks Sony has a plan to corner the market. Last years revolution, the D800, suddenly looks very much like a dinosaur.
"According to Sony, the A7R's image sensor will yield the highest image quality of any Alpha-series camera to date."
"Sony tells us it aims to have 10 FE lenses by the end of next year, and 15 lenses by the end of 2015"
Me thinks Sony has a plan to corner the market. Last years revolution, the D800, suddenly looks very much like a dinosaur.
Oct 16, 2013 at 01:11 AM
p.78 #10Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
From Steve Huff:
MANY more of us able to enjoy Leica M lenses. From my 1st test using a Leica M 50 Summilux on the A7r, it should be quite special. Not sure how wide angle lenses will do, but a 50 and 35 1.4 did well, so, so far so good.
MANY more of us able to enjoy Leica M lenses. From my 1st test using a Leica M 50 Summilux on the A7r, it should be quite special. Not sure how wide angle lenses will do, but a 50 and 35 1.4 did well, so, so far so good.
Oct 16, 2013 at 01:16 AM
p.78 #11Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
LightShow wrote:
From Steve Huff:
too bad he wasn't allowed to use a memory card so he's just judging what he saw threw the evf.
also, haven't heard about anything wider than 50mm at all yet.
From Steve Huff:
Earlier quote
MANY more of us able to enjoy Leica M lenses. From my 1st test using a Leica M 50 Summilux on the A7r, it should be quite special. Not sure how wide angle lenses will do, but a 50 and 35 1.4 did well, so, so far so good.too bad he wasn't allowed to use a memory card so he's just judging what he saw threw the evf.
also, haven't heard about anything wider than 50mm at all yet.
Oct 16, 2013 at 01:25 AM
p.78 #12Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Not sure if these were posted before, sorry if they were because this thread is moving so fast.
MTF of Zeiss 35/2.8:
http://www.sony.jp/ichigan/products/SEL35F28Z/feature_1.html
MTF of Zeiss 35/2.8:
http://www.sony.jp/ichigan/products/SEL35F28Z/feature_1.html
Oct 16, 2013 at 01:45 AM
p.78 #14Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
edwardkaraa wrote:
Not sure if these were posted before, sorry if they were because this thread is moving so fast.
MTF of Zeiss 35/2.8:
http://www.sony.jp/ichigan/products/SEL35F28Z/feature_1.html
looks pretty good.
Not sure if these were posted before, sorry if they were because this thread is moving so fast.
MTF of Zeiss 35/2.8:
http://www.sony.jp/ichigan/products/SEL35F28Z/feature_1.html
looks pretty good.
Oct 16, 2013 at 01:47 AM
p.78 #15Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
From memory, though, the Sony-Zeiss MTF are computed, whereas the Zeiss are actuall measurements. Not sure how these play out...
Oct 16, 2013 at 01:50 AM
p.78 #16Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
philber wrote:
From memory, though, the Sony-Zeiss MTF are computed, whereas the Zeiss are actuall measurements. Not sure how these play out...
Indeed, but you can get a general idea on the performance. Normally I think the wide open graphs are pretty accurate, and you can pull down the stopped down graph by 10%.
From memory, though, the Sony-Zeiss MTF are computed, whereas the Zeiss are actuall measurements. Not sure how these play out...
Indeed, but you can get a general idea on the performance. Normally I think the wide open graphs are pretty accurate, and you can pull down the stopped down graph by 10%.
Oct 16, 2013 at 01:54 AM
p.78 #17Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Thank you Sony for departing the NEX menu system.
Would any RX1 owner know if Sony limits the customization of custom buttons from a small Sony-selected set of functions, such as the NEX does, or if it is more open than that?
(this assuming you can customize controls in the RX1)
Edit:
As an example on the NEX 5N, you cant set any button to be flash exp comp.
Would any RX1 owner know if Sony limits the customization of custom buttons from a small Sony-selected set of functions, such as the NEX does, or if it is more open than that?
(this assuming you can customize controls in the RX1)
Edit:
As an example on the NEX 5N, you cant set any button to be flash exp comp.
Oct 16, 2013 at 01:57 AM
p.78 #18Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Kenta from Sony Imaging Devision
The name "NEX" will no longer be used, all future cameras will fall under the Alpha umbrella.
Oct 16, 2013 at 02:04 AM
p.78 #19Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
wfrank wrote:
Thank you Sony for departing the NEX menu system.
Would any RX1 owner know if Sony limits the customization of custom buttons from a small Sony-selected set of functions, such as the NEX does, or if it is more open than that?
(this assuming you can customize controls in the RX1)
Edit:
As an example on the NEX 5N, you cant set any button to be flash exp comp.
there are certainly more options in the rx1. i believe you can set any of the customizable buttons to flash exp comp (not a function i've ever used so haven't looked into it specifically). all the customizable buttons on the rx1 allow the same options unlike on the NEX except for the movie rec button where the only option is on or off (so silly, why not allow other functions for this button?
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Thank you Sony for departing the NEX menu system.
Would any RX1 owner know if Sony limits the customization of custom buttons from a small Sony-selected set of functions, such as the NEX does, or if it is more open than that?
(this assuming you can customize controls in the RX1)
Edit:
As an example on the NEX 5N, you cant set any button to be flash exp comp.
there are certainly more options in the rx1. i believe you can set any of the customizable buttons to flash exp comp (not a function i've ever used so haven't looked into it specifically). all the customizable buttons on the rx1 allow the same options unlike on the NEX except for the movie rec button where the only option is on or off (so silly, why not allow other functions for this button?
).Oct 16, 2013 at 02:12 AM
p.78 #20Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Now that the A7 is out, the RX-1 not having any grip or EVF as standard makes total sense, for those who want the smallest and lightest package...
Oct 16, 2013 at 02:24 AM