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Archive 2013Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
p.60 #1Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
theophilus wrote:
Also thinking I will pass on the 35/2.8 and get something at least f/2 at 35mm. What is everyone thinking for a fast 35mm prime for this? Are the voightlander 35/1.4, 35/1.2 and 40/1.4 worth considering? How about Zeiss 35/2 Biogon? I have never shot any rangefinder lenses so not really up to date.
I have the 35/1.2 v2 and I'm going to test this as soon as possible. Hard to say how soon that will be though.. If the 35/1.2 works well, this is going to be my primary walkaround kit I suspect. I'll get a cv 21/4 and do 21/35/85. Lightweight, sharp, nice.
Also thinking I will pass on the 35/2.8 and get something at least f/2 at 35mm. What is everyone thinking for a fast 35mm prime for this? Are the voightlander 35/1.4, 35/1.2 and 40/1.4 worth considering? How about Zeiss 35/2 Biogon? I have never shot any rangefinder lenses so not really up to date.
I have the 35/1.2 v2 and I'm going to test this as soon as possible. Hard to say how soon that will be though.. If the 35/1.2 works well, this is going to be my primary walkaround kit I suspect. I'll get a cv 21/4 and do 21/35/85. Lightweight, sharp, nice.
Oct 14, 2013 at 10:03 AM
p.60 #2Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
theophilus wrote:
Am I the only one more interested in the 24mpix version? ...
Certainly not. The big question is which will cater best for those short flange WA RF lenses. The 24 & 36 dont share the same surface as the 24 has that hybrid focusing system on it, and the 36 lacks AA filter so not only the amount of pixels (/density) will likely impact.
So I will not buy one the first weeks, but eagerly stay tuned here for those early adopters verdict. Not hoping to set a trend here with that remark.. ;-)
Am I the only one more interested in the 24mpix version? ...
Certainly not. The big question is which will cater best for those short flange WA RF lenses. The 24 & 36 dont share the same surface as the 24 has that hybrid focusing system on it, and the 36 lacks AA filter so not only the amount of pixels (/density) will likely impact.
So I will not buy one the first weeks, but eagerly stay tuned here for those early adopters verdict. Not hoping to set a trend here with that remark.. ;-)
Oct 14, 2013 at 10:15 AM
p.60 #3Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
sculptormic wrote:
I'll think I'll buy the 7r with this lens as a kit.I am trying to decide if this system can replace my fast-ish primes in my Nikon system, because it looks superlative for travel and landscape fun.
I guess part of it depends on how user-friendly the existing A mount primes will be on this body...They will present a new adapter for it on thursday as well. Sony thought about you 
The question is if this new LA-EAx adapter will be SLT or not. Personally, I'd prefer it to have SLT, as the only time I'd want to use my larger A-mount glass is if I *need* fast AF. It's also trivial enough to buy third-party adapters without SLT.
mco_970 wrote
sculptormic wrote
If it is anything like the M mount Biogon C 35/2.8, it will be a very nice lens.I'll think I'll buy the 7r with this lens as a kit.
I guess part of it depends on how user-friendly the existing A mount primes will be on this body...
The question is if this new LA-EAx adapter will be SLT or not. Personally, I'd prefer it to have SLT, as the only time I'd want to use my larger A-mount glass is if I *need* fast AF. It's also trivial enough to buy third-party adapters without SLT.
Oct 14, 2013 at 10:16 AM
p.60 #4Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
ulrikft2 wrote:
I have the 35/1.2 v2 and I'm going to test this as soon as possible. Hard to say how soon that will be though.. If the 35/1.2 works well, this is going to be my primary walkaround kit I suspect. I'll get a cv 21/4 and do 21/35/85. Lightweight, sharp, nice.
That's a nice trinity. I've been wanting that 35/1.2 for quite long now. It is going to be very interesting to see what the Contax G 28/2.8 and 45/2 (or even 21/2.8) means to these new sensors as they supposedly - quoting some rumors of course - are optimized for short flange lenses such as in the RX1.
I have the 35/1.2 v2 and I'm going to test this as soon as possible. Hard to say how soon that will be though.. If the 35/1.2 works well, this is going to be my primary walkaround kit I suspect. I'll get a cv 21/4 and do 21/35/85. Lightweight, sharp, nice.
That's a nice trinity. I've been wanting that 35/1.2 for quite long now. It is going to be very interesting to see what the Contax G 28/2.8 and 45/2 (or even 21/2.8) means to these new sensors as they supposedly - quoting some rumors of course - are optimized for short flange lenses such as in the RX1.
Oct 14, 2013 at 10:18 AM
p.60 #5Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
theophilus wrote:
Also thinking I will pass on the 35/2.8 and get something at least f/2 at 35mm. What is everyone thinking for a fast 35mm prime for this? Are the voightlander 35/1.4, 35/1.2 and 40/1.4 worth considering? How about Zeiss 35/2 Biogon? I have never shot any rangefinder lenses so not really up to date.
Hopefully, someone with an RX1 will pick up one of these new A7's and compare the two against one another with various 35's. My guess is it's going to be damn hard to beat and possibly even equal the RX1. That lens is so nice even wide open at F2.
Also thinking I will pass on the 35/2.8 and get something at least f/2 at 35mm. What is everyone thinking for a fast 35mm prime for this? Are the voightlander 35/1.4, 35/1.2 and 40/1.4 worth considering? How about Zeiss 35/2 Biogon? I have never shot any rangefinder lenses so not really up to date.
Hopefully, someone with an RX1 will pick up one of these new A7's and compare the two against one another with various 35's. My guess is it's going to be damn hard to beat and possibly even equal the RX1. That lens is so nice even wide open at F2.
Oct 14, 2013 at 10:27 AM
p.60 #6Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Luckily I didn't get the D800, I'm definitely going to get one of these beauties and switch completely to Sony. I wonder how much that A7r is going to eat D800 sales.
Another thing: SAR said that the first image is A7 with the variable aperture G zoom. I really hope they are wrong and that's the Zeiss F4 version because that thing looks quite large.
Another thing: SAR said that the first image is A7 with the variable aperture G zoom. I really hope they are wrong and that's the Zeiss F4 version because that thing looks quite large.
Oct 14, 2013 at 10:52 AM
p.60 #7Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Even if I don't end up buying one I'll still be excited to see what you guys will do with all your various rangefinder lenses.
I never had a FF camera that could use lenses like the fantastic 50mm summilux ASPH. Maybe not buying one would be a form of self-protection for me he he.
I never had a FF camera that could use lenses like the fantastic 50mm summilux ASPH. Maybe not buying one would be a form of self-protection for me he he.
Oct 14, 2013 at 11:03 AM
p.60 #8Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
DOF and AF buttons in the frong of the body and the opportunity to have physical, dedicated controls for flash command and ISO on the left side of the EVF.
That is untapped real estate.
Tariq Gibran wrote:
I guess you have at least the quick control dial on the front grip and likely one at the rear. Exp comp is a separate dial just like on the RX1, top right. What other controls are you missing (beyond the ones that will be on the rear like RX1)?
That is untapped real estate.
Tariq Gibran wrote:
dasrocket wrote
Seems a bit lite on external controls..Oct 14, 2013 at 11:07 AM
p.60 #9Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
_julian_ wrote:
I will be very interested to find out if Sony's new fullframes are smaller than an m9 or m240.
See yourself:
I will be very interested to find out if Sony's new fullframes are smaller than an m9 or m240.
See yourself:
Oct 14, 2013 at 11:14 AM
p.60 #10Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Sami Ruusunen wrote:
Another thing: SAR said that the first image is A7 with the variable aperture G zoom. I really hope they are wrong and that's the Zeiss F4 version because that thing looks quite large.
It's the 28-70 lens in that pic, you can see the f/3.5-5.6 markings on it.
Another thing: SAR said that the first image is A7 with the variable aperture G zoom. I really hope they are wrong and that's the Zeiss F4 version because that thing looks quite large.
It's the 28-70 lens in that pic, you can see the f/3.5-5.6 markings on it.
Oct 14, 2013 at 11:15 AM
p.60 #11Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
The 36 mp one sounds appealing all with those new zeiss lenses
Oct 14, 2013 at 11:16 AM
p.60 #12Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
wfrank wrote:
Certainly not. The big question is which will cater best for those short flange WA RF lenses. The 24 & 36 dont share the same surface as the 24 has that hybrid focusing system on it, and the 36 lacks AA filter so not only the amount of pixels (/density) will likely impact.
So I will not buy one the first weeks, but eagerly stay tuned here for those early adopters verdict. Not hoping to set a trend here with that remark.. ;-)
I'm going to lay out the cash for the pre-order, and a Canon adapter if that proves to be true. The only lens I'm sad to leave behind is the 200/2.8L.
I'll let others review the M-mount wide angle issues before I invest in those lenses.
theophilus wrote
Am I the only one more interested in the 24mpix version? ...So I will not buy one the first weeks, but eagerly stay tuned here for those early adopters verdict. Not hoping to set a trend here with that remark.. ;-)
I'm going to lay out the cash for the pre-order, and a Canon adapter if that proves to be true. The only lens I'm sad to leave behind is the 200/2.8L.
I'll let others review the M-mount wide angle issues before I invest in those lenses.
Oct 14, 2013 at 11:23 AM
p.60 #13Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
A mock up via SAR makes it look a little better.
Oct 14, 2013 at 12:12 PM
p.60 #14Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Great PS work. Love the look of the ZM 50/2 on the Sony....and it will look even better with my Leica 40/2 which is half the size
Oct 14, 2013 at 12:21 PM
p.60 #15Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
theophilus wrote:
Certainly not. The big question is which will cater best for those short flange WA RF lenses. The 24 & 36 dont share the same surface as the 24 has that hybrid focusing system on it, and the 36 lacks AA filter so not only the amount of pixels (/density) will likely impact.
So I will not buy one the first weeks, but eagerly stay tuned here for those early adopters verdict. Not hoping to set a trend here with that remark.. ;-)....... The only lens I'm sad to leave behind is the 200/2.8L.......
Maybe not. These guys say they are working on an EF-A7 electronic adapter
http://www.mxphotoclub.com/?p=1238
Mike
wfrank wrote
theophilus wrote
Am I the only one more interested in the 24mpix version? ...So I will not buy one the first weeks, but eagerly stay tuned here for those early adopters verdict. Not hoping to set a trend here with that remark.. ;-)
Maybe not. These guys say they are working on an EF-A7 electronic adapter
http://www.mxphotoclub.com/?p=1238
Mike
Oct 14, 2013 at 12:27 PM
p.60 #16Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
, why did they come up with "Falcon" and "Owl"? They could have just used Touit and Otus. Personally, I would trust the Metabones more. And if the rumor is true, Sony EF-E adapter would be the best. The LA-EA1 and LA-EA2 are more solid, well thought out than all of the E-mount adapters out there.Oct 14, 2013 at 12:36 PM
p.60 #17Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
I think there's going to be a lot of used speed boosters for sale very soon.
Oct 14, 2013 at 12:37 PM
p.60 #18Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
theophilus wrote:
Am I the only one more interested in the 24mpix version?
Nope, I have no interest in 36 mpix and I want the AA filter. Plus, I suspect that a higher resolution sensor will be more likely to have problems with M lenses.
theophilus wrote:
What is everyone thinking for a fast 35mm prime for this? Are the voightlander 35/1.4, 35/1.2 and 40/1.4 worth considering? How about Zeiss 35/2 Biogon?
In my opinion, the 35/1.2 is a tad too large and too soft wide open, but has a beautiful rendering. The 35/1.4 has huuuuge curvature of field and slightly harsh bokeh, but is reasonably sharp wide open and is very small. Haven't tried the 40, but from what I've seen it would be my choice out of those three.
Personally I will try my Olympus 35/2.8, Voigtländer 40/2 (F mount) and Leica 40/2 Summicron-C first. If they don't deliver, I'll go for the ZM 35/2 or 35/2.8.
Probably the SLR lenses will be as good as they are on SLR:s, but I'm not amazed by the CV 40 these days. It's good, but nothing more and it won't be that small with the F adapter anymore.
If the camera works well with M lenses, I'll probably go for the ZM 25/2.8 as my widest lens, the ZM 50/2 (or ZF 50/1.4 that I already own) for normal and my old Nikkors for tele; the 85/1.8 K and 105/2.5 AI-S.
Am I the only one more interested in the 24mpix version?
Nope, I have no interest in 36 mpix and I want the AA filter. Plus, I suspect that a higher resolution sensor will be more likely to have problems with M lenses.
theophilus wrote:
What is everyone thinking for a fast 35mm prime for this? Are the voightlander 35/1.4, 35/1.2 and 40/1.4 worth considering? How about Zeiss 35/2 Biogon?
In my opinion, the 35/1.2 is a tad too large and too soft wide open, but has a beautiful rendering. The 35/1.4 has huuuuge curvature of field and slightly harsh bokeh, but is reasonably sharp wide open and is very small. Haven't tried the 40, but from what I've seen it would be my choice out of those three.
Personally I will try my Olympus 35/2.8, Voigtländer 40/2 (F mount) and Leica 40/2 Summicron-C first. If they don't deliver, I'll go for the ZM 35/2 or 35/2.8.
Probably the SLR lenses will be as good as they are on SLR:s, but I'm not amazed by the CV 40 these days. It's good, but nothing more and it won't be that small with the F adapter anymore.
If the camera works well with M lenses, I'll probably go for the ZM 25/2.8 as my widest lens, the ZM 50/2 (or ZF 50/1.4 that I already own) for normal and my old Nikkors for tele; the 85/1.8 K and 105/2.5 AI-S.
Oct 14, 2013 at 12:46 PM
p.60 #19Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
artur5 wrote:
See yourself:
http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/32/qksb.jpg
Wow, the body is even lower then the RX1! I will need the grip.
_julian_ wrote
I will be very interested to find out if Sony's new fullframes are smaller than an m9 or m240.http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/32/qksb.jpg
Wow, the body is even lower then the RX1! I will need the grip.
Oct 14, 2013 at 12:53 PM
p.60 #20Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
I have both Sony Alpha Lenses (very good ones) and lots of SLR and RF alt lenses.
So ... my question is will I be able to buy just the 7R to use with alt lenses, and use my Sony Alpha lenses with the new FF LEA adapter? Or will I need the 7R for the alt lenses, and the 7 with it's PDAF for my Alpha lenses?
So ... my question is will I be able to buy just the 7R to use with alt lenses, and use my Sony Alpha lenses with the new FF LEA adapter? Or will I need the 7R for the alt lenses, and the 7 with it's PDAF for my Alpha lenses?
Oct 14, 2013 at 12:57 PM