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p.59 #1Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
My only unanswered question is whether this camera has a touchscreen, but given how much it looks operationally like an RX1, I'm preparing to be disappointed. I also hope that viewfinder doesn't obscure the LCD too much when you're shooting it tilted at waist-level.
Oct 14, 2013 at 08:39 AM
p.59 #2Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
it's an otherwise perfectly nice looking camera RUINed by those four hieroglyphic characters on the hump which spell anathema to the totally cool: SONY.
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Oct 14, 2013 at 08:46 AM
p.59 #3Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
I will be very interested to find out if Sony's new fullframes are smaller than an m9 or m240.
Oct 14, 2013 at 08:46 AM
p.59 #4Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
These cameras will likely be huge successes for Sony and are likely candidates for cameras of the year. However, I'm not fully convinced about size savings for the lenses. I have no doubt there will be compromises in the native lenses to keep them small. A7(r) + native Zeiss primes will unlikely match the resolution capabilities of comparable D800E combo. Then there is the AF speed. I like the idea of these cameras, but every time I add up the pros/cons, it still points to these cameras being complements to DSLRs and not replacements.
Oct 14, 2013 at 08:49 AM
p.59 #5Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
I'm curious if these cameras will have electronic first curtain like the NEX-7.
Oct 14, 2013 at 08:55 AM
p.59 #6Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
uhoh7 wrote:
it's an otherwise perfectly nice looking camera RUINed by those four hieroglyphic characters on the hump which spell anathema to the totally cool: SONY.
All that is needed is a bit of metal working
it's an otherwise perfectly nice looking camera RUINed by those four hieroglyphic characters on the hump which spell anathema to the totally cool: SONY.
All that is needed is a bit of metal working
Oct 14, 2013 at 08:56 AM
p.59 #7Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
_julian_ wrote:
I will be very interested to find out if Sony's new fullframes are smaller than an m9 or m240.
Just by eyeballing it, I'd say that the A7 will be noticeably smaller than the m240 in all dimensions...if you were to take the EVF "prism" hump out of the equation. It looks like the hump will make it a bit taller than the m240.
I will be very interested to find out if Sony's new fullframes are smaller than an m9 or m240.
Just by eyeballing it, I'd say that the A7 will be noticeably smaller than the m240 in all dimensions...if you were to take the EVF "prism" hump out of the equation. It looks like the hump will make it a bit taller than the m240.
Oct 14, 2013 at 08:58 AM
p.59 #8Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
According to a dpreview poster, it is similar to nex 7 width (120mm) or omd e-m5 (121mm) or a little smaller then the omd e-m1 (130.4mm), so it is more close to e-m5 size w/evf plus a better grip:
"According to the leaked PDF, the 35mm lens is 61.5mm in diameter. I imported the image into an image editor and the top plate is close to 2x the diameter of the lens, so the camera should be around 123mm wide (plus or minus a bit); the NEX-7 is 120mm."
http://camerasize.com/compact/#33,376,482,289,389,213,ha,f
and one photo w/ ZM planar:
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/52327282
_julian_ wrote:
I will be very interested to find out if Sony's new fullframes are smaller than an m9 or m240.
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"According to the leaked PDF, the 35mm lens is 61.5mm in diameter. I imported the image into an image editor and the top plate is close to 2x the diameter of the lens, so the camera should be around 123mm wide (plus or minus a bit); the NEX-7 is 120mm."
http://camerasize.com/compact/#33,376,482,289,389,213,ha,f
and one photo w/ ZM planar:
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/52327282
_julian_ wrote:
I will be very interested to find out if Sony's new fullframes are smaller than an m9 or m240.
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Oct 14, 2013 at 09:02 AM
p.59 #9Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
carstenw wrote:
Well, I agree with that, but I do not agree that it doesn't matter at all what a camera looks like.
No, I do not consider a camera to be jewelllery, for some reason the group of people who claim that it doesn't matter what a camera looks like jump straight from the one extreme to the other, missing another possibility: I care what a camera (or anything else) looks like, even though I do not care what other people think of it. I enjoy well-designed things. I think that tools have their own beauty as well, as least nice, good...Show more →
That question is a bit more loaded than might be apparent. First, because any device that is excessively stylized (and pink is certainly stylization) is crossing the line into being an affectation of fashion. Those who buy pink cameras are making a statement about their fashion sensibility, their flair for carrying around pink things, etc. Second, because a bright flamboyant color link pink actually does have an impact on the function of the device insofar as the attracts attention to itself which may not always be desirable. Third, it would affect my ability to use it as a tool, because, well, people don't normally feel comfortable hiring photographers carrying around pink cameras.
But...if for whatever strange reason, pink was the only color available for this camera, and it was the only type of camera that met my needs, sure I would buy it. And cover it all up with duct tape
I think you are also confusing aesthetics with design. Good design is something that has good functionality. Good design allows a device to be used intuitively without being obtrusive. Aesthetics are nuanced, and subject to opinion. Things that "look good" to one person don't always look good to another. All things we produce these days have some aesthetic stylings, but for products which are intended as tools, it's usually a safer bet to make the aesthetics more neutral (e.g. black camera rather than pink) and focus on functionality as the main aspect of the design.
artd wrote
I care much less about what the tool looks like, and more about how effective it is at its job. I spent five years remodeling my home and put a lot of work into making it beautiful. But none of the tools I used in that work are in any way pretty (especially not after the abuse they've been put through).No, I do not consider a camera to be jewelllery, for some reason the group of people who claim that it doesn't matter what a camera looks like jump straight from the one extreme to the other, missing another possibility: I care what a camera (or anything else) looks like, even though I do not care what other people think of it. I enjoy well-designed things. I think that tools have their own beauty as well, as least nice, good...Show more →
That question is a bit more loaded than might be apparent. First, because any device that is excessively stylized (and pink is certainly stylization) is crossing the line into being an affectation of fashion. Those who buy pink cameras are making a statement about their fashion sensibility, their flair for carrying around pink things, etc. Second, because a bright flamboyant color link pink actually does have an impact on the function of the device insofar as the attracts attention to itself which may not always be desirable. Third, it would affect my ability to use it as a tool, because, well, people don't normally feel comfortable hiring photographers carrying around pink cameras.
But...if for whatever strange reason, pink was the only color available for this camera, and it was the only type of camera that met my needs, sure I would buy it. And cover it all up with duct tape
I think you are also confusing aesthetics with design. Good design is something that has good functionality. Good design allows a device to be used intuitively without being obtrusive. Aesthetics are nuanced, and subject to opinion. Things that "look good" to one person don't always look good to another. All things we produce these days have some aesthetic stylings, but for products which are intended as tools, it's usually a safer bet to make the aesthetics more neutral (e.g. black camera rather than pink) and focus on functionality as the main aspect of the design.
Oct 14, 2013 at 09:17 AM
p.59 #10Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
wfrank wrote:
All that is needed is a bit of metal working
Or Gaffer's tape.
uhoh7 wrote
it's an otherwise perfectly nice looking camera RUINed by those four hieroglyphic characters on the hump which spell anathema to the totally cool: SONY.Or Gaffer's tape.
Oct 14, 2013 at 09:19 AM
p.59 #11Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Sony listens and finally delivers a camera that we have been craving for. So, as alternate lens users, we should thank Sony for listening and thus the name Sony deserves to be there.
Oct 14, 2013 at 09:27 AM
p.59 #12Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
wfrank wrote:
All that is needed is a bit of metal working
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3810/10270976764_0d813f50af_o.jpg
Like this and willing to pay extra
uhoh7 wrote
it's an otherwise perfectly nice looking camera RUINed by those four hieroglyphic characters on the hump which spell anathema to the totally cool: SONY.http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3810/10270976764_0d813f50af_o.jpg
Like this and willing to pay extra
Oct 14, 2013 at 09:38 AM
p.59 #13Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
It hasn't been mentioned in the latest round of info on SAR but it will be interesting if Sony does include your choice of adapter. A great way for them to judge where inroads are being made. Except for those of us with 3 or 4 or more adapters already.
Oct 14, 2013 at 09:38 AM
p.59 #14Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
wfrank wrote:
All that is needed is a bit of metal working
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3810/10270976764_0d813f50af_o.jpg
ha! Sweet! but you missed a few spots banish all sony fonts please, and add 50's style Contax art-decco curly lines at suitable planes and angles.
Maybe someone will do a red dot version....please
uhoh7 wrote
it's an otherwise perfectly nice looking camera RUINed by those four hieroglyphic characters on the hump which spell anathema to the totally cool: SONY.http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3810/10270976764_0d813f50af_o.jpg
ha! Sweet! but you missed a few spots
banish all sony fonts please, and add 50's style Contax art-decco curly lines at suitable planes and angles.Maybe someone will do a red dot version....please
Oct 14, 2013 at 09:38 AM
p.59 #15Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
sculptormic wrote:
If it is anything like the M mount Biogon C 35/2.8, it will be a very nice lens.
I'll think I'll buy the 7r with this lens as a kit.
I am trying to decide if this system can replace my fast-ish primes in my Nikon system, because it looks superlative for travel and landscape fun.
I guess part of it depends on how user-friendly the existing A mount primes will be on this body...
If it is anything like the M mount Biogon C 35/2.8, it will be a very nice lens.
I'll think I'll buy the 7r with this lens as a kit.
I am trying to decide if this system can replace my fast-ish primes in my Nikon system, because it looks superlative for travel and landscape fun.
I guess part of it depends on how user-friendly the existing A mount primes will be on this body...
Oct 14, 2013 at 09:48 AM
p.59 #16Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
I'm really liking the capabilities of these cameras. There might be a few things we all would rather have on them or not need, but is there ever a perfect camera? I really hope to see some fast 1.4 primes and I'm guessing the price of them will be well reflected.
Oct 14, 2013 at 09:49 AM
p.59 #17Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Am I the only one more interested in the 24mpix version? Right now I used 7D & NEX-7, if the AF is a generational step forward I can get back to a single system and have ~$5k to dump into a stable of manual and autofocus glass.
Waiting for pics and pricing of the 70-200/4 Zeiss. I need reach, high ISO and high fps for my kid's sports (gymnastics, volleyball, dressage) - but not best in the world tracking AF. It's not soccer/football/etc.
Waiting for pics and pricing of the 70-200/4 Zeiss. I need reach, high ISO and high fps for my kid's sports (gymnastics, volleyball, dressage) - but not best in the world tracking AF. It's not soccer/football/etc.
Oct 14, 2013 at 09:49 AM
p.59 #18Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
24 or 36? That is the big question. My D600 RAW files are already pushing my 3 year old Macbook pro to its limits and I'm pretty happy with the file sizes. Even as a landscape shooter, the A7 might be my cup of tea.
Oct 14, 2013 at 09:56 AM
p.59 #19Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Also thinking I will pass on the 35/2.8 and get something at least f/2 at 35mm. What is everyone thinking for a fast 35mm prime for this? Are the voightlander 35/1.4, 35/1.2 and 40/1.4 worth considering? How about Zeiss 35/2 Biogon? I have never shot any rangefinder lenses so not really up to date.
Oct 14, 2013 at 09:56 AM
p.59 #20Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
mco_970 wrote:
I'll think I'll buy the 7r with this lens as a kit.I am trying to decide if this system can replace my fast-ish primes in my Nikon system, because it looks superlative for travel and landscape fun.
I guess part of it depends on how user-friendly the existing A mount primes will be on this body...
They will present a new adapter for it on thursday as well. Sony thought about you
sculptormic wrote
If it is anything like the M mount Biogon C 35/2.8, it will be a very nice lens.I'll think I'll buy the 7r with this lens as a kit.
I guess part of it depends on how user-friendly the existing A mount primes will be on this body...
They will present a new adapter for it on thursday as well. Sony thought about you
Oct 14, 2013 at 10:02 AM