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Archive 2013Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
p.25 #1Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Makten wrote:
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KMN
Why is it so difficult just to pack a FF sensor into a body just as large as it has to be? I am fine with lenses with long register.
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KMN
Why is it so difficult just to pack a FF sensor into a body just as large as it has to be? I am fine with lenses with long register.
Aug 27, 2013 at 08:18 AM
p.25 #2Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
douglasf13 wrote:
It doesn't look like it, so one would have to toss the zoom on ebay.At least it's black. But is it worth it to try and sell a kit lens? It seems logical to me that the people who want them would've purchased them with their cameras, so your market gets limited to people who aren't smart shoppers or bargain hunters. Wouldn't you be better off hanging on to it and then selling it when you decided to sell the camera? To my way of thinking, it'll broaden the audience for the camera and expedite that sale, even if you lose a small amount more than you would selling separately.The lens costs $299 on it's own, and I'd bet you could get $150 for it on ebay. I'd just go ahead and sell the lens, because these cameras are too cheap to sell later on down the line. I'd rather just keep the camera for backup or something in a few years.
Average price for the last ten black ones sold on eBay is $96, but one of them did go for $165 (on auction even) so you might get lucky. But I have the feeling that if the black model becomes more readily available, it will drive the prices down. If you include the last ten silver sold in with the ten black, the average goes down to $73.
freaklikeme wrote
douglasf13 wrote
freaklikeme wrote
Can you buy it body-only? Amazon's only showing the kit.Average price for the last ten black ones sold on eBay is $96, but one of them did go for $165 (on auction even) so you might get lucky. But I have the feeling that if the black model becomes more readily available, it will drive the prices down. If you include the last ten silver sold in with the ten black, the average goes down to $73.
Aug 27, 2013 at 11:26 AM
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Makten wrote:
I have a bad feeling that Sony will release an FF version of the E-mount a3000 camera, before a smallish FF NEX. Just because "pros want large cameras" or something. Then I will have to kill someone. Or just die.
I think the a3000 is more an experiment to see how far they can push the concept of a low-end SLR-like camera. If it catches on, I'm sure they'll expand the line over time, but I suspect the first FF NEX will be more in line with what we've been getting from the rumors, a slightly larger NEX-7 style body.
I have a bad feeling that Sony will release an FF version of the E-mount a3000 camera, before a smallish FF NEX. Just because "pros want large cameras" or something. Then I will have to kill someone. Or just die.
I think the a3000 is more an experiment to see how far they can push the concept of a low-end SLR-like camera. If it catches on, I'm sure they'll expand the line over time, but I suspect the first FF NEX will be more in line with what we've been getting from the rumors, a slightly larger NEX-7 style body.
Aug 27, 2013 at 11:35 AM
p.25 #4Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
And a slightly larger price tag. Like 10x ILC 3000 :-()
Aug 27, 2013 at 12:11 PM
p.25 #5Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
^ I'd say that's likely true, given the introductory price of the a99, VG900, and RX-1, but if they really wanted it to fly off the shelves, they'd price it competitively with the D600/6D.
Aug 27, 2013 at 03:04 PM
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freaklikeme wrote:
^ I'd say that's likely true, given the introductory price of the a99, VG900, and RX-1, but if they really wanted it to fly off the shelves, they'd price it competitively with the D600/6D.
I wouldn't hold my breath for that kind of pricing.
Rich
^ I'd say that's likely true, given the introductory price of the a99, VG900, and RX-1, but if they really wanted it to fly off the shelves, they'd price it competitively with the D600/6D.
I wouldn't hold my breath for that kind of pricing.
Rich
Aug 27, 2013 at 03:06 PM
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naturephoto1 wrote:
I wouldn't hold my breath for that kind of pricing.
Rich
Yeah, there would be a lot of consciousness lost between now and the big disappointment if I did that.
freaklikeme wrote
^ I'd say that's likely true, given the introductory price of the a99, VG900, and RX-1, but if they really wanted it to fly off the shelves, they'd price it competitively with the D600/6D.Rich
Yeah, there would be a lot of consciousness lost between now and the big disappointment if I did that.
Aug 27, 2013 at 03:10 PM
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SAR is now going SR5 that there will be a FF NEX, but the announcement time is uncertain, end 2013 or early 2014. Not very convincing :\
Aug 30, 2013 at 05:27 AM
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alundeb wrote:
SAR is now going SR5 that there will be a FF NEX, but the announcement time is uncertain, end 2013 or early 2014. Not very convincing :\
I would not be surprised if the announcement is as mentioned earlier by SAR will be on or around September 24. I also expect that the camera in some form (prototype, mock up, or preferably a working model) as I have previously suggested will be at Photoplus at the Javits Center in NYC October 24-26. That is the perfect showcase for the new camera being that it is the largest photo show in North America and probably the largest Photo show of 2013.
If the camera is announced on or around September 24 I intend to purchase a Leica R to NEX Novoflex adapter and to bring quite a few Leica R lenses and the adapter to Photoplus; I will probably attend the show on Thursday, October 24.
Rich
SAR is now going SR5 that there will be a FF NEX, but the announcement time is uncertain, end 2013 or early 2014. Not very convincing :\
I would not be surprised if the announcement is as mentioned earlier by SAR will be on or around September 24. I also expect that the camera in some form (prototype, mock up, or preferably a working model) as I have previously suggested will be at Photoplus at the Javits Center in NYC October 24-26. That is the perfect showcase for the new camera being that it is the largest photo show in North America and probably the largest Photo show of 2013.
If the camera is announced on or around September 24 I intend to purchase a Leica R to NEX Novoflex adapter and to bring quite a few Leica R lenses and the adapter to Photoplus; I will probably attend the show on Thursday, October 24.
Rich
Aug 30, 2013 at 05:39 AM
p.25 #10Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Keep your faith high and fill your wallet in advance.
Aug 30, 2013 at 05:46 AM
p.25 #11Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
The Sonnar 35/2.8 is confirmed:
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr5-first-full-frame-zeiss-35mm-f2-8-e-mount-lens-listed-on-sony-germany/
Almost a pancake
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr5-first-full-frame-zeiss-35mm-f2-8-e-mount-lens-listed-on-sony-germany/
Almost a pancake
Aug 31, 2013 at 10:26 AM
p.25 #12Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Notes to self:
Must not buy RX1.
Must not buy expensive APS-C lenses.
Must not buy RX1.
Must not buy expensive APS-C lenses.
Aug 31, 2013 at 10:30 AM
p.25 #13Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
The German specification sheet looks strange in one respect. Weight looks like 120g, or hardly more than half the crop 24 f:1.8. That a Zeiss FF prime that is so light sounds unlikely, don't you think? My guess? APS-c pancake. Or a typo...
Aug 31, 2013 at 10:48 AM
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philber wrote:
The German specification sheet looks strange in one respect. Weight looks like 120g, or hardly more than half the crop 24 f:1.8. That a Zeiss FF prime that is so light sounds unlikely, don't you think? My guess? APS-c pancake. Or a typo...
It does say clearly that the Sonnar is designed to be compatible with 35mm format. The weight must be a typo, unless the whole lens including the optical elements are made of plastic
PS: For what it's worth, the Voigtlaender 35/2.5 pancake does weight 134 grams and it is all metal.
The German specification sheet looks strange in one respect. Weight looks like 120g, or hardly more than half the crop 24 f:1.8. That a Zeiss FF prime that is so light sounds unlikely, don't you think? My guess? APS-c pancake. Or a typo...
It does say clearly that the Sonnar is designed to be compatible with 35mm format. The weight must be a typo, unless the whole lens including the optical elements are made of plastic
PS: For what it's worth, the Voigtlaender 35/2.5 pancake does weight 134 grams and it is all metal.
Aug 31, 2013 at 10:56 AM
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It also says "equivalent 35mm focal length: 52,5mm. I could be wrong, but....
Aug 31, 2013 at 11:07 AM
p.25 #16Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
The PDF lists 2 FOV angles for only the 35/2.8 lens
Angle of view 1*2 63‹
Angle of view 2*2 44‹
"Angle of view 1 is the value for 35mm cameras, and angle
of view 2 is the value for Interchangeable Lens Cameras
equipped with an APS-C sized image sensor."
Seems clear that is a FF lens.
http://pdf.crse.com/manuals/4290406041.pdf
Angle of view 1*2 63‹
Angle of view 2*2 44‹
"Angle of view 1 is the value for 35mm cameras, and angle
of view 2 is the value for Interchangeable Lens Cameras
equipped with an APS-C sized image sensor."
Seems clear that is a FF lens.
http://pdf.crse.com/manuals/4290406041.pdf
Aug 31, 2013 at 11:11 AM
p.25 #17Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
philber wrote:
It also says "equivalent 35mm focal length: 52,5mm. I could be wrong, but....
They probably state that because the lens can also be used on APS-C cameras, or maybe the lenses will be released before the FF camera?
It is called "FE" and not only "E".
It also says "equivalent 35mm focal length: 52,5mm. I could be wrong, but....
They probably state that because the lens can also be used on APS-C cameras, or maybe the lenses will be released before the FF camera?
It is called "FE" and not only "E".
Aug 31, 2013 at 11:12 AM
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philber wrote:
It also says "equivalent 35mm focal length: 52,5mm. I could be wrong, but....
Yep, I saw this one, and this one is definitely a typo
It also says "equivalent 35mm focal length: 52,5mm. I could be wrong, but....
Yep, I saw this one, and this one is definitely a typo
Aug 31, 2013 at 11:13 AM
p.25 #19Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
You should read the note that goes with it
Equivalent 35mm-format
focal length*1 (mm) 52.5
* The values shown above for equivalent 35mm-format
focal length and angle of view are for Interchangeable Lens
Cameras equipped with an APS-C sized image sensor.
Equivalent 35mm-format
focal length*1 (mm) 52.5
* The values shown above for equivalent 35mm-format
focal length and angle of view are for Interchangeable Lens
Cameras equipped with an APS-C sized image sensor.
Aug 31, 2013 at 11:16 AM
p.25 #20Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Fine, let's keep our hopes up. But not too high...
Aug 31, 2013 at 11:20 AM