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p.23 #1Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
sebboh wrote:
ah, i knew only buying cheap adapters with no baffles would pay off somehow (besides the obvious money saving bit). all mine allow a FF image circle.
Do your adapters include a wonderful Arca-Swiss type tripod mount? That was one of the reasons I went with Metabones for Nikon mount lenses.
ah, i knew only buying cheap adapters with no baffles would pay off somehow (besides the obvious money saving bit). all mine allow a FF image circle.
Do your adapters include a wonderful Arca-Swiss type tripod mount? That was one of the reasons I went with Metabones for Nikon mount lenses.
Aug 19, 2013 at 02:41 AM
p.23 #2Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
alundeb wrote:
Do your adapters include a wonderful Arca-Swiss type tripod mount? That was one of the reasons I went with Metabones for Nikon mount lenses.
no, but i don't have anything that could make use of such a contraption either. my tripod cost almost as little as my adapters and is pretty much only used to take pictures of stuff i'm selling. i don't think it's ever been taken more 100ft from my house or car.
i've mostly avoided the adapters with tripod mounts because the only lenses for which i'd want one already have their own mounts.
sebboh wrote
ah, i knew only buying cheap adapters with no baffles would pay off somehow (besides the obvious money saving bit). all mine allow a FF image circle.no, but i don't have anything that could make use of such a contraption either. my tripod cost almost as little as my adapters and is pretty much only used to take pictures of stuff i'm selling. i don't think it's ever been taken more 100ft from my house or car.
i've mostly avoided the adapters with tripod mounts because the only lenses for which i'd want one already have their own mounts.
Aug 19, 2013 at 02:51 AM
p.23 #3Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
I understand.
How about IS for Canon tele lenses?
How about IS for Canon tele lenses?
Aug 19, 2013 at 02:53 AM
p.23 #4Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
alundeb wrote:
I understand.
How about IS for Canon tele lenses?
don't have any yet, honestly not terribly excited by any non-telephoto canons (plus i really prefer manual focus). i figured i'd get the metabones smart adapter, but that i'd only use it and the lens on crop. it usually doesn't add much extra space to just have a camera permanently attached to a telephoto, especially when it's a NEX.
I understand.
How about IS for Canon tele lenses?
don't have any yet, honestly not terribly excited by any non-telephoto canons (plus i really prefer manual focus). i figured i'd get the metabones smart adapter, but that i'd only use it and the lens on crop. it usually doesn't add much extra space to just have a camera permanently attached to a telephoto, especially when it's a NEX.
Aug 19, 2013 at 03:01 AM
p.23 #5Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
sebboh wrote:
Small and light... yes.
Smallest possible with lots of compromises... NO!
For those who want super small FF, be happy with the RX1.the rx1 doesn't take other lenses. i sure don't want any extra bulk for the FF nex, why not just use a dslr? what exactly don't you like about the NEX-7 build? i'm as rough with it as i've been with my pro-dslrs. the only issues i've had is the rubber coming loose (obviously this is something they better address but doesn't really have anything to do with structural rigidity) and brassing (this is a cosmetic issue that happens to all metal cameras and people actually pay extra for on leicas). the only weakness i really see in the NEX-7...Show more →
update on my experience with the NEX-7 durability: i was hiking today and holding my daughter when the strap on my ~20lb bag snapped and the bag dropped 1m onto rocks. seemed like a pretty short fall to me but my daughter's nalgene bottle got a large hole put in it by the fall. i had 3 cameras with lenses mounted in the bag + my leica 350/4.8. all the lenses (sturdy, all metal mf lenses) survived fine without a mark, but only 2 cameras survived.
my rx1 and minolta XD-11 still look brand new, while my NEX-7 has crack in the metal shell going from the mount to the flash as well as some physical displacement and gives an error signal at startup. this indicates to me that the structural skeleton of the NEX-7 could stand a little beefing up. to be fair, the NEX-7 was in the worst position in the bag (bottom) and most cameras wouldn't survive a blow that punches a hole in a nalgene.
sflxn wrote
Hopefully, Sony doesn't read this and think the NEX-7 body is perfect. It's far from it. I am unwilling to pay a single penny for a FF sensor in a NEX-7 body. It needs to be more solid and have a better viewfinder. I am betting a FF sensor in a NEX-7 body will sell far below what a great FF NEX could sell. The primary buyers of a FF NEX camera will come from the pool of Canon and Nikon FF owners. We're used to more rugged bodies. I would like to see this camera with 15-20% more heft, more structural rigidity, and weatherproofing. $3k is a lot to pay for a toy body.Small and light... yes.
Smallest possible with lots of compromises... NO!
For those who want super small FF, be happy with the RX1.
update on my experience with the NEX-7 durability: i was hiking today and holding my daughter when the strap on my ~20lb bag snapped and the bag dropped 1m onto rocks. seemed like a pretty short fall to me but my daughter's nalgene bottle got a large hole put in it by the fall. i had 3 cameras with lenses mounted in the bag + my leica 350/4.8. all the lenses (sturdy, all metal mf lenses) survived fine without a mark, but only 2 cameras survived.
my rx1 and minolta XD-11 still look brand new, while my NEX-7 has crack in the metal shell going from the mount to the flash as well as some physical displacement and gives an error signal at startup. this indicates to me that the structural skeleton of the NEX-7 could stand a little beefing up. to be fair, the NEX-7 was in the worst position in the bag (bottom) and most cameras wouldn't survive a blow that punches a hole in a nalgene. Aug 24, 2013 at 09:46 PM
p.23 #6Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
sebboh wrote:
while my NEX-7 has crack in the metal shell going from the mount to the flash as well as some physical displacement and gives an error signal at startup. this indicates to me that the structural skeleton of the NEX-7 could stand a little beefing up. to be fair, the NEX-7 was in the worst position in the bag (bottom) and most cameras wouldn't survive a blow that punches a hole in a nalgene.
It's hard to know whether the camera should have survived the fall without knowing exactly what impact it was subjected to within the bag. Sorry about your loss.
while my NEX-7 has crack in the metal shell going from the mount to the flash as well as some physical displacement and gives an error signal at startup. this indicates to me that the structural skeleton of the NEX-7 could stand a little beefing up. to be fair, the NEX-7 was in the worst position in the bag (bottom) and most cameras wouldn't survive a blow that punches a hole in a nalgene.
It's hard to know whether the camera should have survived the fall without knowing exactly what impact it was subjected to within the bag. Sorry about your loss.
Aug 24, 2013 at 11:04 PM
p.23 #7Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Yup, such accidents suck, Derek! At least, you had more than one cam with you, so your trip wasn't a washout. But still, I feel your pain.
Aug 24, 2013 at 11:08 PM
p.23 #8Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
sebboh wrote:
update on my experience with the NEX-7 durability: i was hiking today and holding my daughter when the strap on my ~20lb bag snapped and the bag dropped 1m onto rocks. seemed like a pretty short fall to me but my daughter's nalgene bottle got a large hole put in it by the fall. i had 3 cameras with lenses mounted in the bag + my leica 350/4.8. all the lenses (sturdy, all metal mf lenses) survived fine without a mark, but only 2 cameras survived. my rx1 and minolta XD-11 still look brand new, while my NEX-7 has...Show more →
Ouch. But at least the RX1 came through unscathed.
update on my experience with the NEX-7 durability: i was hiking today and holding my daughter when the strap on my ~20lb bag snapped and the bag dropped 1m onto rocks. seemed like a pretty short fall to me but my daughter's nalgene bottle got a large hole put in it by the fall. i had 3 cameras with lenses mounted in the bag + my leica 350/4.8. all the lenses (sturdy, all metal mf lenses) survived fine without a mark, but only 2 cameras survived.
my rx1 and minolta XD-11 still look brand new, while my NEX-7 has...Show more →Ouch. But at least the RX1 came through unscathed.
Aug 24, 2013 at 11:10 PM
p.23 #9Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
A horrible feeling checking the damage, glad it worked out not as bad as it might have been.
Aug 25, 2013 at 01:19 AM
p.23 #10Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
sebboh wrote:
update on my experience with the NEX-7 durability: i was hiking today and holding my daughter when the strap on my ~20lb bag snapped and the bag dropped 1m onto rocks.
Wow, that does suck. May I ask which bag and, in particular strap broke? Did it occur at the connection point between the bag and strap? Just curios what caused the failure.
update on my experience with the NEX-7 durability: i was hiking today and holding my daughter when the strap on my ~20lb bag snapped and the bag dropped 1m onto rocks.
Wow, that does suck. May I ask which bag and, in particular strap broke? Did it occur at the connection point between the bag and strap? Just curios what caused the failure.
Aug 25, 2013 at 07:06 AM
p.23 #11Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Isn't it probable that the rumors originated in a "Full-size body" being tested, not a full-size sensor? I'm talking about the "A-3000" now. Which is shaped like a "big camera", probably quite a lot smaller, and has an E-mount?
As long as it's reasonably compact while still well built, i actually find that concept quite interesting. It would be like the current larger "super-zoom" compacts, only with APS-size image quality on steroids. And interchangeable lenses.
As long as it's reasonably compact while still well built, i actually find that concept quite interesting. It would be like the current larger "super-zoom" compacts, only with APS-size image quality on steroids. And interchangeable lenses.
Aug 25, 2013 at 07:13 AM
p.23 #12Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Tariq Gibran wrote:
Wow, that does suck. May I ask which bag and, in particular strap broke? Did it occur at the connection point between the bag and strap? Just curios what caused the failure.
Sorry for your accident. That's always a bummer.
I'm curious too. I've never had a Lowepro bag failure (parts). I don't know how a 1m drop to rocks would do, but they are pretty well padded and divided. I like the bulky types: Compact AW, Magnum AW, and Commercial AW. All are well padded and pretty "bullet-proof".
sebboh wrote
update on my experience with the NEX-7 durability: i was hiking today and holding my daughter when the strap on my ~20lb bag snapped and the bag dropped 1m onto rocks.Sorry for your accident. That's always a bummer.
I'm curious too. I've never had a Lowepro bag failure (parts). I don't know how a 1m drop to rocks would do, but they are pretty well padded and divided. I like the bulky types: Compact AW, Magnum AW, and Commercial AW. All are well padded and pretty "bullet-proof".
Aug 25, 2013 at 09:51 AM
p.23 #13Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Tariq Gibran wrote:
Wow, that does suck. May I ask which bag and, in particular strap broke? Did it occur at the connection point between the bag and strap? Just curios what caused the failure.
not a camera bag, but my "diaper bag" which is actually just a laptop bag. the out side of the bag doesn't have any padding. only the laptop section has padding (that's where my big lens was). the cameras were in 3 separate compartments cushioned by diapers and child clothing. the strap broke at the connection point. it was actually a plastic ball & socket style joint that broke. it was designed to prevent the strap from twisting. definitely a weak point in the design.
sebboh wrote
update on my experience with the NEX-7 durability: i was hiking today and holding my daughter when the strap on my ~20lb bag snapped and the bag dropped 1m onto rocks.not a camera bag, but my "diaper bag" which is actually just a laptop bag. the out side of the bag doesn't have any padding. only the laptop section has padding (that's where my big lens was). the cameras were in 3 separate compartments cushioned by diapers and child clothing. the strap broke at the connection point. it was actually a plastic ball & socket style joint that broke. it was designed to prevent the strap from twisting. definitely a weak point in the design.
Aug 25, 2013 at 10:25 AM
p.23 #14Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
theSuede wrote:
Isn't it probable that the rumors originated in a "Full-size body" being tested, not a full-size sensor? I'm talking about the "A-3000" now. Which is shaped like a "big camera", probably quite a lot smaller, and has an E-mount?
As long as it's reasonably compact while still well built, i actually find that concept quite interesting. It would be like the current larger "super-zoom" compacts, only with APS-size image quality on steroids. And interchangeable lenses.
that seems unlikely given that the rumor for that body was around for a long time along with the FF rumor with a clear separation between them from the same "sources".
Isn't it probable that the rumors originated in a "Full-size body" being tested, not a full-size sensor? I'm talking about the "A-3000" now. Which is shaped like a "big camera", probably quite a lot smaller, and has an E-mount?
As long as it's reasonably compact while still well built, i actually find that concept quite interesting. It would be like the current larger "super-zoom" compacts, only with APS-size image quality on steroids. And interchangeable lenses.
that seems unlikely given that the rumor for that body was around for a long time along with the FF rumor with a clear separation between them from the same "sources".
Aug 25, 2013 at 10:28 AM
p.23 #15Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
That's terrible! At least the Leica lenses are OK. I guess the silver lining is that you can be first in line for the FF NEX
Aug 25, 2013 at 10:30 AM
p.23 #16Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
While I'm not completely baffled by the ILC-3000 - it might sell quite well - it definitely does make me wonder what's in store.
Will I have to buy an SLR-style body to get IBIS?
Do Sony consider the compact size of the NEX cameras to be a premium?
Is there any hope that Sony will eventually have a camera line-up where they have a similar features/specs hierarchy in two parallel form factors? (SLR-style and compact/rangefinder-style). Meaning that there isn't some stupid situation where every camera is some sort of compromise.
Will I have to buy an SLR-style body to get IBIS?
Do Sony consider the compact size of the NEX cameras to be a premium?
Is there any hope that Sony will eventually have a camera line-up where they have a similar features/specs hierarchy in two parallel form factors? (SLR-style and compact/rangefinder-style). Meaning that there isn't some stupid situation where every camera is some sort of compromise.
Aug 25, 2013 at 01:06 PM
p.23 #17Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
I have seen on leak yet stating that the ILC-3000 was equipped with an APS-C sensor, and no sensor of that specification is known yet. How about if it were the cheaper, smaller 20Mp sensor from the RX-100?
Aug 25, 2013 at 01:18 PM
p.23 #18Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
sebboh -- Ha-ha! Okay, so protecting your gear is a low priority. Sorry for the lecture on a padded bag. 
I have a nice little Lowepro Passport Sling that could be worn as an additional cross-chest bag to balance your diaper bag.
I still think you take great pictures. So, I can't be too judgmental about your logistics.
Sorry for the lecture on a padded bag. I have a nice little Lowepro Passport Sling that could be worn as an additional cross-chest bag to balance your diaper bag.
I still think you take great pictures. So, I can't be too judgmental about your logistics.
Aug 25, 2013 at 01:33 PM
p.23 #19Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
philber wrote:
I have seen on leak yet stating that the ILC-3000 was equipped with an APS-C sensor, and no sensor of that specification is known yet. How about if it were the cheaper, smaller 20Mp sensor from the RX-100?
Wouldn't make any sense with E-mount lenses.
I have seen on leak yet stating that the ILC-3000 was equipped with an APS-C sensor, and no sensor of that specification is known yet. How about if it were the cheaper, smaller 20Mp sensor from the RX-100?
Wouldn't make any sense with E-mount lenses.
Aug 25, 2013 at 01:49 PM
p.23 #20Our prayers have been answered: Nex-FF in 2 months
Taylor Sherman wrote:
While I'm not completely baffled by the ILC-3000 - it might sell quite well - it definitely does make me wonder what's in store.
Will I have to buy an SLR-style body to get IBIS?
Do Sony consider the compact size of the NEX cameras to be a premium?
Is there any hope that Sony will eventually have a camera line-up where they have a similar features/specs hierarchy in two parallel form factors? (SLR-style and compact/rangefinder-style). Meaning that there isn't some stupid situation where every camera is some sort of compromise.
I thought I read somewhere previously that SLR style bodies would get IBIS and NEX style compact bodies would not. This ILC-3000 though confuses things from what I had previously read because, in addition to SLR style bodies getting IBIS, I thought that would be restricted to A-Mount as well (and the ILC-3000 is E-Mount). I see this as a good thing since it now means E-Mount is in on IBIS as well. Sony looks to be blurring the differentiation between the two mounts which, to me, spells the end of A-mount eventually if I had to guess.
While I'm not completely baffled by the ILC-3000 - it might sell quite well - it definitely does make me wonder what's in store.
Will I have to buy an SLR-style body to get IBIS?
Do Sony consider the compact size of the NEX cameras to be a premium?
Is there any hope that Sony will eventually have a camera line-up where they have a similar features/specs hierarchy in two parallel form factors? (SLR-style and compact/rangefinder-style). Meaning that there isn't some stupid situation where every camera is some sort of compromise.
I thought I read somewhere previously that SLR style bodies would get IBIS and NEX style compact bodies would not. This ILC-3000 though confuses things from what I had previously read because, in addition to SLR style bodies getting IBIS, I thought that would be restricted to A-Mount as well (and the ILC-3000 is E-Mount). I see this as a good thing since it now means E-Mount is in on IBIS as well. Sony looks to be blurring the differentiation between the two mounts which, to me, spells the end of A-mount eventually if I had to guess.
Aug 25, 2013 at 01:50 PM