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Archive 2011 · Adobe is not going to allow upgrading from older versions with CS6

  
 
Bill Guy
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p.1 #1 · Adobe is not going to allow upgrading from older versions with CS6


Check out Adobe's new pricing strategy for CS6. No more going back more than one version for upgrading. So it is upgrade or pay full price.

Read it here.



Nov 10, 2011 at 11:13 AM
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p.1 #2 · Adobe is not going to allow upgrading from older versions with CS6


Wow. This IS a big deal. It's going to be fun to watch this news go viral.

I have not seen the news in any of the half dozen forums I monitor. Congrats and thanks to Bill Guy being the first to report it in forums.



Nov 10, 2011 at 11:47 AM
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p.1 #3 · Adobe is not going to allow upgrading from older versions with CS6


The reason they are doing this is that they are bleeding and need more revenue. It's been obvious for a while that PS already does what most people want and there is less and less per release that adds enough value to pay for the upgrade. This is why many people run older versions


Nov 10, 2011 at 12:23 PM
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p.1 #4 · Adobe is not going to allow upgrading from older versions with CS6


Good reason to find alternatives to Photoshop.

If Pixelmator 2.x or Acorn 3.x add 48 bit support they could replace Photoshop for most photographers

Edited on Nov 22, 2011 at 05:00 PM · View previous versions



Nov 10, 2011 at 12:33 PM
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p.1 #5 · Adobe is not going to allow upgrading from older versions with CS6


CS3/32-bit XP ... been waiting for CS6 before moving to 64-bit ... game changer for my sense of timing. Earlier thread @ CS6 changes didn't "WOW" me, so Black Friday and 64-bit for CS5 may be on its way.


Nov 10, 2011 at 12:49 PM
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p.1 #6 · Adobe is not going to allow upgrading from older versions with CS6


This and they just killed off flash and laid off about 700 people.


Nov 10, 2011 at 01:33 PM
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p.1 #7 · Adobe is not going to allow upgrading from older versions with CS6


abqnmusa wrote:
Good reason to find alternatives to Photoshop.


good luck!



Nov 10, 2011 at 03:20 PM
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p.1 #8 · Adobe is not going to allow upgrading from older versions with CS6


They need to pay for laying off the workers


Nov 10, 2011 at 03:28 PM
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p.1 #9 · Adobe is not going to allow upgrading from older versions with CS6


Not really much of a surprise. Many "professional" software vendors are moving to a subscription only licensing forumla (e.g. AutoDesk). That's likely where Adobe is heading too.


Nov 10, 2011 at 03:33 PM
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p.1 #10 · Adobe is not going to allow upgrading from older versions with CS6


Reading between the lines (Adobe's typically pretty careful in their word choice), I'm not entirely sure this applies to applications. It appears to be targeted at the suites, where there's never really been any kind of leniency on skipping upgrades. With the suites, it's always been the case that you pay through the nose if you're not on the current version; eliminating the option entirely is realistically only a minor change.


Nov 10, 2011 at 03:44 PM
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p.1 #11 · Adobe is not going to allow upgrading from older versions with CS6


The 3 versions back policy is pretty generous compared to others. I started at work with V1 and we always upgraded with each new release with our site license. At home on my dime I stayed with PS7 until it was no longer supported on OSX jumping to CS2. Since then I've upgraded to 3-4-5 with each new release for under $200 and found the new features, overall, worth it.





Nov 10, 2011 at 04:01 PM
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p.1 #12 · Adobe is not going to allow upgrading from older versions with CS6


I'm going to be very resistant to a subscription model. I'll keep upgrading the permanent license version as long as I can afford the cost.



Nov 10, 2011 at 04:15 PM
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p.1 #13 · Adobe is not going to allow upgrading from older versions with CS6


What does this mean? How does it apply to those only using one product like CS5?

For customers who prefer to remain on the current licensing model, we will continue to offer our individual point products and Adobe Creative Suite editions as perpetual licenses.



Nov 10, 2011 at 04:45 PM
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p.1 #14 · Adobe is not going to allow upgrading from older versions with CS6


The thing to watch is LR3 in my opinion.......a good % of photographers could easily survive with that and an earlier version of PS...or even Elements!

The problem for Adobe is their products are just too expensive for the general market. Maybe not for top pros with tax deductible business expenses...but I suspect many of the amateurs that currently pay for it might decide enough is enough.



Nov 11, 2011 at 10:22 AM
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p.1 #15 · Adobe is not going to allow upgrading from older versions with CS6


Just buy their "upgrade plan" every two years. As long as you renew the upgrade plan every other year you are entitled to each new release. Their "upgrade plan" is basically the same as Microsoft's software assurance (SA) but Adobe's pricing on it is more reasonable than Microsoft's.


Nov 11, 2011 at 12:00 PM
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p.1 #16 · Adobe is not going to allow upgrading from older versions with CS6


Bill Guy wrote:
Check out Adobe's new pricing strategy for CS6. No more going back more than one version for upgrading. So it is upgrade or pay full price.

Read it here.


wow




so unless i quickly upgraded my stand alone photoshop to CS5 which I already have I'd forever have to upgrade the premiere pro suite each time even if at times I;d just want new PS....

and already they refuse to let me trade down a design suite to just indesign stand alone so they'd want me to upgrade to the new full cs5 design suite just to get a single new program up to CS5 and then I'd have to upgrade, eseentially to full master suite every single time

i already quit on upgrading indesign since they insist on locking me into the indesign suite and won't let me trade it in for indesign stand alone and this new policy just makes it all the worse since i couldnt even uograde suites types ever other time or anything so maybe they are bleeding money since their policies stink so badly that people are quittin gon them. I told them they could have my money for indesign upgrade if they let me trade in an entire suite for just the standalone, seems liek a no brainer for them right?, but nope they said they'd rather I stuff it and they'd rather get $0 from me instead. (even their CS rep said they hate their own companies policies and constantly try to tell management to change but get rebuffed all the time)



Nov 11, 2011 at 01:52 PM
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p.1 #17 · Adobe is not going to allow upgrading from older versions with CS6


anthonygh wrote:
The thing to watch is LR3 in my opinion.......a good % of photographers could easily survive with that and an earlier version of PS...or even Elements!

The problem for Adobe is their products are just too expensive for the general market. Maybe not for top pros with tax deductible business expenses...but I suspect many of the amateurs that currently pay for it might decide enough is enough.


yeah they went for a pro pricing system
they need to be careful, if they dump off too many amateurs their volume may sink too low to make up for it



Nov 11, 2011 at 01:53 PM
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p.1 #18 · Adobe is not going to allow upgrading from older versions with CS6


I'm wondering if this will somewhat strategically be pushing folks toward LR3/LR4 as it becomes more PS-like ... while those who need more than LR3/LR4, will need to pony up the $$$.

I'm guessing there's more "meat & potatoes" headroom in LR to improve upon than there is a strong market for additional "sugar coating" in PS. In that way, when LR4/LR5 come out successively (and incrementally more like PS) the 'upgrade revenue stream' will continue to flourish.

They might be thinking more about the lifecycle of LR relative to PS ... hmmmm.


I'm sitting on CS3 only right now (no LR) ... was holdling for CS6. When thinking about CS5, two main things come to mind: 64-bit and context aware fill. From the standpoint that the ACR is the same in CS5 as it is LR3 ... how much gap is there between LR3 and CS5 (knowing that I still have CS3) ... i.e. CS3+LR3 vs. CS5 or CS6 (for PP purposes more so than file management) ??







Nov 11, 2011 at 02:24 PM
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p.1 #19 · Adobe is not going to allow upgrading from older versions with CS6


For some (if not many) the main driver for buying a new version of Ps is to get an upgrade of the Adobe Camera Raw plug-in needed to suit a newly purchased camera model. e.g. if Ps CS 6 came out before the Canon 1Dx or the Nikon D4 then a whole lot CS5 owners would not have the usual raw file support for their new cameras next year and there would be a wave of upgrades. If the cameras come first then a lot of people could afford to defer their Ps upgrade.

- Alan



Nov 12, 2011 at 05:51 AM
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p.1 #20 · Adobe is not going to allow upgrading from older versions with CS6


Interesting point (recalling CS3 & D700 not playing together in raw) for consideration.

I'm shooting on "vintage" bodies (5Dc / 1D MK IIN). I might upgrade to something "newer" next year, but certainly nothing requiring CS6. So, instead of upgrading to newer versions of PS, would staying current in LR provide for strategic ACR camera body support, without a need to stay current in PS to keep up on the "meat & potatoes" while passing on the "sugar coating" if PS has truly run out of steam for "significant" improvements?

In that regard, I could see CS5 lasting for quite some time into the future ... upgrading via LR4/5 as ACR improves.



Nov 12, 2011 at 06:47 AM
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