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This image is copyrighted by the owner

thanks for any feedback

Dec 08, 2008 at 04:54 AM
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Congratulations! I like it. I've seen a great many images over the years and this is an original that doesn't remind me of something I remember seeing before. That's becoming a rarity. Thank you.

Dec 08, 2008 at 10:15 AM
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Very nice - would you share the Exif with us?

Bob

Dec 08, 2008 at 04:14 PM
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I agree. Very well done. Dramatic capture of action and mood with excellent silhouetting.

Scott

Dec 08, 2008 at 07:50 PM
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Bob Jarman wrote:
Very nice - would you share the Exif with us?

Bob

sure, here you are:

Camera: Canon EOS 40D
Exposure: 30 sec (30)
Aperture: f/22
Focal Length: 10 mm
ISO Speed: 800
Exposure Bias: 0 EV
Flash: Flash did not fire

Orientation: Horizontal (normal)
X-Resolution: 72 dpi
Y-Resolution: 72 dpi
Date and Time: 2008:12:07 19:47:33
YCbCr Positioning: Co-Sited
Exposure Program: Manual
Date and Time (Original): 2008:12:07 19:47:33
Date and Time (Digitized): 2008:12:07 19:47:33
Shutter Speed: -327680/65536
Metering Mode: Pattern
Sub-Second Time: 60
Sub-Second Time (Original): 60
Sub-Second Time (Digitized): 60
Color Space: sRGB
Focal Plane X-Resolution: 4438.356 dpi
Focal Plane Y-Resolution: 4445.969 dpi
Exposure Mode: Manual
Compression: JPEG
Image Type: Canon EOS 40D


Also, any thoughts on how I might achieve a sharper skyline, or will that require a faster shutter speed?

Dec 08, 2008 at 08:47 PM
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- f22 is too high for a sharp skyline. defraction kicks in at >f16 in big way on 1.6x format (20d, 30d, 40d,50d, rebel). f22 is also not needed at f10. Approx 5'toinfinity ocurrs at f11.
- most lens are sharpest at 2 stops up from wide open which is likely around f8 or f11
- most zoom lens are sharpest at the middle (16mmm of 10-22) of the range
- if you are focussing close, it woudl be sharper if you were focussing further away
- use tripod and mirror lockup and a remote shutter release

So for sharper, use tripod, remote shutter release, mirror lockup, focus nearer to infinity, move to f11, and back up to use 16mm. Possilbly use f8, for even sharper. Maybe try both and see which is better.

faster shutter will not make sharper unless there is pollution or fog moving between you and the buildings.

The only other thing you can do is get a better camera or a better lens. The lens is likely to be more important than the camera.

Scott


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Scott Stoness wrote:
- f22 is too high for a sharp skyline. defraction kicks in at >f16 in big way on 1.6x format (20d, 30d, 40d,50d, rebel). f22 is also not needed at f10. At f10 5'toinfinity ocurrs at f11.
- most lens are sharpest at 2 stops up from wide open which is likely around f8 or f11
- most zoom lens are sharpest at the middle (16mmm of 10-22) of the range
- if you are focussing close, it woudl be sharper if you were focussing further away
- use tripod and mirror lockup and a remote shutter release

So for sharper, use tripod, remote shutter release, mirror lockup, focus nearer to infinity, move to f11, and back up to use 16mm. Possilbly use f8, for even sharper. Maybe try both and see which is better.

faster shutter will not make sharper unless there is pollution or fog moving between you and the buildings.

The only other thing you can do is get a better camera or a better lens. The lens is likely to be more important than the camera.

Scott

great tips, thanks! My stupid photo teacher couldnt give me that advice (which is why Im not doing any more evening courses there), but I'll definitely do a re-shoot on this and try it out closer to f8.

Dec 09, 2008 at 04:06 AM
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You are welcome. I forgot to add, if you are using a tripod, turn off the image stabilization on the lens otherwise the IS will cause noise by seeking noise.

Scott

Dec 09, 2008 at 05:37 AM
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Phenomenal image.

Dec 09, 2008 at 06:20 AM
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I'll add one more, albeit minor suggestion to Scott's already excellent advice: if you're using a light tripod, stabilize it by hanging weight (gear bag?) from the center post/head. Otherwise it may be subject to vibration from wind, passing traffic, etc...

Bob

Dec 09, 2008 at 01:01 PM
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Reminds me of Jacksonville, FL. I don't know what's great about the shot, but that could be because my eye lacks the ability to "like" anything. I do have an idea, which is to put a foamcore board grid on a flash to make the light directional, point it at the very back or left edge of the sculpture (from outside left of the frame), and fire a test shot during the long exposure. It might silhouette the sculpture and bring it out more.

Dec 11, 2008 at 05:50 AM
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What a striking and interesting image! I suspect the softness of the background is due to the camera support; diffraction "problems" are seldom as obvious. HOwever, that softness really doesn't bother me--it doesn't register in the larger scheme of things. Good seeing.

Bob Kane

Dec 14, 2008 at 05:00 PM
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