We're charging you $100 per hour of workshop fee and your pay is $100 per hour.
Please email me at ray @ aperturaphoto . com No PM, text messages, etc please.
Thank you!
This is cute, but still not legal nor ethical. When you run a small business you do have certain responsibilities to understand the laws governing workforce. Everyone loves you here and you are an exceptional photographer but you can do better than this.
You keep on bring up ethical ? A trainee who wants to learn is expected to be trained for free and be paid also in cash ?
No wonder working pro's shy away from taking on newbies........because of ethics like that......oh well, theres only one loser here, the newbies because they are stuck behind "ethical" issues preventing them from learning.
saturnkk wrote:
This is not training. It is employment.
Well it's not employment if the newb's don't get the work.....and with people like you trying to enforce your ethical issues, they will NOT be trained...so they can thank people like YOU for their lack of training by professionals......hey, maybe they can go to YOU and you can train and also pay them ??
If you work - you should be paid. The law agrees and is there to protect people from all manner or exploitation. There is no tongue in cheek way around this.
Carrying Ray's bag is working. Ray's soliciting employees to work for free is unfortunate. He should consult an attorney familiar with employment standards in his jurisdiction.
I'm pretty sure that a couple of free workshops with Ray will be far more useful as training and cost-effective than a few years in university where you'd pay thousands in fees, let alone living costs.
Also, I do not know how it works with you guys in the US, but companies here let university students do training by doing their projects in collaboration with the company. Most companies won't pay you (unless they're pretty sure they want to employ you after graduation), but if you do well they either give you a job in the end or you get a very good reference, which counts for a lot more than 10 references from academics. Is that unethical? Does the company get free labour? Sure it does. Do you get anything out of it? Sure you do.
In fact, thinking about it, the biggest scam is a PhD. You actually pay the University so that they can claim grants and say they do all that research, which you do.
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