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Mustang Air to Air " The Sequel"

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p.815 #1 · Mustang Air to Air " The Sequel"

Great shots everybody i have nothing to contribute at the moment ow yes a underside of a jet Wiiiiiiii no just a joke

we are now at Davis Monthan afb the A-10's were still flying....
Luke afb was not that good lots of haze and dirty air.....
Will try to get some shots tomorrow .... so stay tuned..
Greetz Marcel and Jan-Arie

Mar 09, 2010 at 04:57 AM

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p.815 #2 · Mustang Air to Air " The Sequel"

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Mar 09, 2010 at 04:57 AM

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p.815 #3 · Mustang Air to Air " The Sequel"

Mr. Wilson, you are most definitely a leader...

HEAR HEAR!!

Mar 09, 2010 at 05:10 AM

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p.815 #4 · Mustang Air to Air " The Sequel"

My first time seeing these for more than just a 2000ft flyby, and still cant get over how awesome they were. Really enjoying see all the posts, especially the Bones.

Glenn

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Mar 09, 2010 at 05:11 AM

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p.815 #5 · Mustang Air to Air " The Sequel"

Hear, hear! Well said, donmega!

And do butt in... please!

If you've read this far, then by all means participate more often, you know you're welcome!

Mar 09, 2010 at 05:12 AM

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p.815 #6 · Mustang Air to Air " The Sequel"

Glenn,
What an awesome shot of a BONE!!

Mar 09, 2010 at 05:13 AM

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Bill Gass: WOW

Mar 09, 2010 at 05:16 AM

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Rodolfo Paiz wrote:
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A Valion making it look easy

So are you, Glenn... right now, you have my vote for Best Images and for Most Improved Photographer. You've always posted Very Good Stuff [tm], but these images are incredible! Daaaaaaammnn...

Thats a nice thing to say. Not sure about best images or most improved - i'd agree with most number of images posted so far !

Mar 09, 2010 at 05:21 AM

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p.815 #9 · Mustang Air to Air " The Sequel"

Glenn,
I'm just a lurker with a point and shoot. But in my opinion they're correct. Sweet series, you've arrived at the next level with a bang buddy. I was back a few pages saying to myself wow thats my fav, then I'd see another picture and say again, wow, thats my fav. I just have to say that that whole series was outstanding

Bryan

Mar 09, 2010 at 05:56 AM

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p.815 #10 · Mustang Air to Air " The Sequel"

Dang Rodolfo - I wish you wouldn't do that! It seems to happen a lot more than it should - particularly with the things I write. Maybe it has to do with a poor writing capability on my part - maybe its this ongoing underlying passive aggressive approach to me you've openly displayed since Osh 08. But I would like to formally ask for it to stop. Seems like Dazz may also be getting a taste of it as well. Maybe you don't even realize you're doing it - so for that possibility - I'll cut you some slack and let it go unless it continues.

Case in point so you know what I'm talking about, you said this: "Jon hated Moose's presentation. That's OK. (The frozen props bugged me too, but the guy's specialty is bears and wildlife, so I cut him some slack.) "

Where did I ever say I hated Moose's presentation? I didn't say it in person and I didn't say it online. I said I was bored to death and fell asleep. There is a big difference! Moose's presentation was soaked with an "I'm the greatest - learn from me" attitude. It reeked! I find that off-putting by anyone who brings it to the show. It didn't matter what kind of equipment he uses - he could have been using Canon and I would still have been put off.

Jerry Ward brought the same attitude - at least Moose has the chops when it comes to wildlife and scenery. It is off-putting to all - or should be - even to "noobs". (newbs)

If a "pro" got some inspiration or bit of knowledge from his presentation - I'd be mighty surprised.

Moose has a lot of accolades and covers under his belt, maybe as many as Paul Bowen ( i doubt it). But you won't find Paul standing in front of a crowd proclaiming he's the greatest. It is a stark contrast in the two personalities. I'd prefer more from the Paul Bowen camp if I'm going to sit in a dark warm room for three hours at a time.

Partly out of courtesy and partly out of boredom, I had planned to exit Moose's presentation as soon as it was over and go to my room before he started the Nikon portion.. As it turned out - my good friends allowed me to continue to sleep through the break, and took sport in taking a few less than complimentary photos of me once the light was turned on. I didn't wake up till well into Moose's presentation of Nikon software editing techniques and by then had a stiff sore neck and was embarrassed to know I couldn't exit when I had planned. I know I snore - I can't imagine how loud it could have gotten (or did). It might be funny to all who witnessed it - but its about as funny to me as drinking too much and making an ass out of myself. (Been there, done that and appreciate the few people who turned up to cover me)

So, thanks to all within 10 feet of me - i now know how far i can trust you to "cover my 6" - which isn't much. Sorry to have caused you all so much distress that one of the MA2A shirt wearers did such an unprofessional thing. I'm embarrassed by my actions - what are you going to do with yours?

So - i'm off track - the purpose of this response was to point out Rodolfo once again either jumped to a conclusion or just decided he had enough information to make a statement and see if it floats at my expense. In either case, I'm not happy about being characterized about what someone thinks i hate and what I say I'm bored with. There wasn't much in Moose's presentation (what I heard of it) to inspire anyone - pro or amateur. Particularly when it was drenched in so much ego. But that isn't the question - his content isn't what put me to sleep - it was his attitude. Most of the other presenters spoke with some similitude of humility - not Moose. If God were to go on vacation, I got the feeling Moose would want to step in and make sure everything got done.

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I will agree with you on the Pocket Wizard guy. I had hoped to actually learn something from this presentation. When it was obvious it was an infomercial with all the ShamWOW - "wait there's more"... I was very disappointed. I didn't learn much at all that I didn't already know. I've used pocket wizards for a couple years. These two presentations were the bottom of the barrel in my opinion. Nothing at all like the Scott Kelby presentation from the previous ISAP.

Mar 09, 2010 at 06:22 AM

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p.815 #11 · Mustang Air to Air " The Sequel"

Man you guys write a lott will save that for home

Here a nice visitor to Williams Gateway

Canon EOS-1D Mark II 260 mm f/8.0 1/400 sec 400 ISO 0.0 EV

Mar 09, 2010 at 06:27 AM

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p.815 #12 · Mustang Air to Air " The Sequel"

Hi all
Great "heavy" metal everyone,
regards Gerard

Mar 09, 2010 at 06:57 AM

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p.815 #13 · Mustang Air to Air " The Sequel"

Nice pics everyone.

JWilson I got the part where you were uploading pics while flying. Thats kinda cool.

JBear, all I can say is I wouldn't want to wake a sleeping bear. Take some comfort that any daggers thrown your way would only have come from jealousy.

You guys must be finding some keepers by now so keep em coming! Please.

Mar 09, 2010 at 11:15 AM

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p.815 #14 · Mustang Air to Air " The Sequel"

Jon, don't worry, you did not snore... And you'll notice that no pictures have been posted. So don't feel too bad. I was starting to doze off myself!

Mar 09, 2010 at 12:06 PM

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p.815 #15 · Mustang Air to Air " The Sequel"

Gerard, very nice canopy shot, I like the bright colours.

Mar 09, 2010 at 12:10 PM

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p.815 #16 · Mustang Air to Air " The Sequel"

Gerard-

I agree with Jo, that P-51 canopy is very nice!

I've been looking through my shots from the afternoon at the racetrack with the D300, and they seem to be a little less sharp than my shots with the D3 at Nellis. I'm wondering if it has to do with the lens/TC needing a focus adjustment, or just operator error...

Here are a few.

Bone turning base to final.

T-Bird #5

F-15C base to final

Mar 09, 2010 at 02:05 PM

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p.815 #17 · Mustang Air to Air " The Sequel"

A few more......

A pair of F-15C's on final

I kkind of like the mood of this KC-135. Sort of an "unsung hero" shot showing they will fly through unpleasant weather to get the gas to the heavy drinkers...

Another BA Bone.

Mar 09, 2010 at 02:09 PM

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p.815 #18 · Mustang Air to Air " The Sequel"

Hey! That's one of our F15s from Tyndall AFB! I wonder if the pilot is one of my neighbors - I have 2 who are instructor pilots in the F15 and one who is an F22 instructor pilot. I didn't notice any Tyndall F22s in any of the photos yet.

It's unfortunate that Tyndall is about to lose all of it's F15s as the big drawdown of those planes starts soon. We're going to be losing about 900 jobs locally. Most of us here are hoping that Tyndall will be in the running to get one of the F35 training base slots; we certainly have the ramp room and training airspace for it!

Keep those photos coming!

Mar 09, 2010 at 02:12 PM

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p.815 #19 · Mustang Air to Air " The Sequel"

Here's a shot from an impromptu shoot yesterday. I thought the vignetting from the Mk.1 70-200VR might add something nice to the shot, but now I don't think I like it. Maybe the Polarizer contributed as well?

Shooting mid-day was a bummer, but when they say you have 90 minutes to get it done, then they are leaving, you do your best to make some lemonade (yes, taking lessons from those better than I).

I'm hoping for a do-over if they come back to town tonight. (dusk looks MUCH better!)

Mar 09, 2010 at 02:49 PM

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futurshox wrote:
I certainly heard a lot of people commenting on our shirts and wondering (a) what they were all about and (b) where they could get one! I think we were noticed... hopefully that won't be a bad thing, I see ISAP and MA2A as entirely separate entities but ones that should benefit each other.

Anyway... I finally got a chance to get into my computer room (while the cats are sleeping) and look at some photos... here's a few tasters; as I type, I haven't seen many more of these than you guys, so I've no idea what else lurks within my Lightroom catalogue... time will tell.

A deHavilland Dove taking off from Mojave

Hey Jo, love this shot. I am a bit disappointed that you didn't get more prop blur though. Maybe slow your shutter down around 3 seconds or so.

Just kidding. I really like all the elements going on in this photo.

Mar 09, 2010 at 03:05 PM

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p.815 #21 · Mustang Air to Air " The Sequel"

Bill Gass wrote:
gerov wrote:

So Bill, how good were those burgers

Gero
Stale and..........Ah, never mind, Jim loved em...

Mark McGrath and I had dinner at In'n'Out on Sunday evening and polished off a couple more. I'm going to need to eat salads for a few days after a half dozen In'n'Out Burgers

Mar 09, 2010 at 03:13 PM

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Mar 09, 2010 at 03:29 PM

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p.815 #23 · Mustang Air to Air " The Sequel"

Leo Hursh wrote:
Hey Jo, love this shot. I am a bit disappointed that you didn't get more prop blur though. Maybe slow your shutter down around 3 seconds or so.

Just kidding. I really like all the elements going on in this photo.

Thanks Leo!

You know, I went down to around 1/40th to try and get some blur on those windmills and you _still_ can't see it! And the heat haze makes it hard to see what is going on.

Mar 09, 2010 at 03:36 PM

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jbear2000 wrote:
Dang Rodolfo - I wish you wouldn't do that! [...] Case in point so you know what I'm talking about, you said this: "Jon hated Moose's presentation. That's OK. (The frozen props bugged me too, but the guy's specialty is bears and wildlife, so I cut him some slack.) "

Well, that's an easy one... I didn't.

At least, I surely didn't intend to do it.

Thanks for pointing out a specific issue. I was just being "conversational" and referring to a previous comment in order to add a new one. So I used very loose phrasing, with "bored" and "disliked" and "disapproved of" being simplified to "hated" the presentation. I did not intend to distort your statement or change anything about it. Everyone read your comments, which were very clear. All I intended was to agree with you, then add the PW comment. If this had been a verbal conversation, I would have said "Yeah, I didn't like it that much either, but he's a wildlife guy so I'll cut him some slack. But you know what, the PW guy gets the infomercial prize, he was so much worse!" It's just a reference to a prior comment in order to segue into the next.

No offense intended, and I'm sorry if it sounded that way.

jbear2000 wrote:
Seems like Dazz may also be getting a taste of it as well.

No. Please do not extrapolate one thing to another, nor make the kind of assumptions you disapprove of others making. I made a very clear and direct comment about the B-1 night departures during our Thursday dinner, and Dazz objected to it. End of story.

Mar 09, 2010 at 03:42 PM

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pfnskyshots wrote:
Hey! That's one of our F15s from Tyndall AFB! I wonder if the pilot is one of my neighbors - I have 2 who are instructor pilots in the F15 and one who is an F22 instructor pilot.

Richard, if you can find out what tail numbers they fly, I'll check to see if any of my semi-decent shots are of their aircraft.

Mar 09, 2010 at 03:45 PM


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