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p.604 #1 · Mustang Air to Air " The Sequel"


Dear Rodolfo,

Sorry about the D3x, ugh! Had the same thing happen at our tower chief's daughter's wedding a few weeks ago, but I was standing in grass and it rolled inverted in the descent, landing on my 580 EXII. The flash absorbed the brunt of the impact and shattered, 1Ds MkIII seems unharmed.

In your situation, i'd call the insurance company first and tell them that your 8K camera body hit the concrete and was destroyed. You really don't want to have that one fixed, that kind of impact has far reaching effects. They might just replace it for you without a hassle. If they make you send it to Nikon for an estimate, then you have to do that obviously, but I'd push for a new one, and a quick resolution.

Nov 08, 2009 at 04:29 AM
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p.604 #2 · Mustang Air to Air " The Sequel"


Love your shots Tim awesome work mate.
Bad luck with the D3x Rodolfo...worst accident ive ever had is a Mk2n fall over with the 500F4 which bent the lens locking pin while in Holland.
Great work from Canon Holland and i was back in business in just over an hour.



Nov 08, 2009 at 04:40 AM
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p.604 #3 · Mustang Air to Air " The Sequel"


Rodolfo....OUCH...sympathy .....

Nov 08, 2009 at 05:30 AM
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p.604 #4 · Mustang Air to Air " The Sequel"


To all:

Rodolfo is a champ.

I was standing 2-3 feet away and just turned in his direction when I saw the body start it's freefall. It nearly made ME cry. However, he simply picked it up, fired a couple shots, realized it wasn't working, and immediately shifted his complete attention to the lovely Anya, who is one of the most articulate 7 year olds I have met...

The tremendously unfortunate event gave me the opportunity to learn a couple of things...
1. The 200-400 is HEAVY compared to what I'm used to, and will require more concentration when the light is as crappy as it was yesterday...
2. The lens rocks. I know it might give up a little in IQ to a prime of similar focal length(s), but in a sports/airshow type situation, it is NICE to have the zoom...

All that being said, it WAS a fun day. Even the girl I bonked with the lens while panning laughed it off. Actually, it was fun until Rodolfo asked on the way home why I didn't catch the D3X when I saw it tumble!!

Nov 08, 2009 at 01:21 PM
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p.604 #5 · Mustang Air to Air " The Sequel"


Man - i hate to hear that about the D3x. Jim is right - push for a replacement cause they will probably never be able to get it back into alignment like you need for aviation shooting.

One thing that has saved my butt on a lot of different things I've dropped is something i learned a long time ago in the dental lab. The models, dentures, crowns and bridges... along with some of the tools we use are very fragile and its not uncommon to occasionally drop one.
Someone taught me to stick my foot out and let the item hit my foot before it hits the ground. For small items like crowns and bridges - it saves from bent margins or cracked porcelain - for larger items like dentures or models, it saves them from broken teeth. I've had to stick my foot out so many times in the last 35 years - that it is second nature.

So when my 17-40 rolled off of Rich's tailgate down in Panama City last year - i just naturally stuck my foot out and it landed squarely on top of it and rolled to the ground the next 2 inches. It scuffed the rear lens cap a little and absolutely no other damage - its still sharp as a tack and shows no sign of damage.

Yes it hurts a little if the item is big - you have to make a split second decision what you want to save - a bruise or an expensive piece of equipment. To each their own - but i grew up poor and couldn't afford to live like things were dispensable - so you learn to live with a few bruises - so what.

... i know you gave me a hard time about my SmugMug straps... but I've got an extra one if you want it. They have never failed yet!

Nov 08, 2009 at 01:43 PM
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p.604 #6 · Mustang Air to Air " The Sequel"


Sorry to hear about the D-3x. Had something similar a few years back with my D-1H, but it involved a triple-a baseball team, an errant throw from second base, and me in the dugout.

Nov 08, 2009 at 03:43 PM
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p.604 #7 · Mustang Air to Air " The Sequel"


Dear Warner,

Your account of the demise of Rodolfo's D3x warmed my heart, (wait!, no jumping to conclusions, there's no Nikon joke here) In this day and age society is so consumed with stuff (and I include myself), it's nice to see an example of a man who realizes stuff is just stuff and has his priorities right where they should be. In Rodolfo's case, it comes as no surprise to me, but it's nice to see none the less. The Nikon will be replaced and not thought of again, but Anya will have that day's memories forever, and part of those will be the fact that quality time with her is infinitely more important to her Dad than an expensive piece of photo gear.

Nov 08, 2009 at 06:02 PM
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p.604 #8 · Mustang Air to Air " The Sequel"


As a side note, I have replaced all my straps with "The Camera Strap". Kind of pricey, but a very rugged, reliable strap. If you ever order one, do it online, because the guy who owns the company seems to have a phone personality that just oozes with "I could care less", but the product is first class. One caveat, you have to be smarter than the strap and read the directions when you weave it through the cinches, or you increase the chances of you camera falling and destroying a $400 flash unit, but I digress.

Nov 08, 2009 at 06:08 PM
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p.604 #9 · Mustang Air to Air " The Sequel"


Old smokey :-)

Rob











Nov 08, 2009 at 07:28 PM
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p.604 #10 · Mustang Air to Air " The Sequel"


Thanks for the compliments, everyone, I'm very grateful. But, I'm sure we'd all have handled things precisely the same way. The camera dropped, it was clearly dead, end of story. So you think, there'll be time to mourn it later but right-this-minute there's an airshow going on! And there's nothing wrong with Warner's camera, so he gets the big lens. And I focus on Anya's first airshow experience, which is more important anyway. Just making practical decisions when they need to be made.

A truly examplary "nice guy" would have offered the big lens to Warner before his camera bit the dust.

Things either will, or already have, worked out well. Anya loved the experience, is demanding earmuffs so she can have her hands free to take pictures (!) during "those loud jets", and even asked me if we could go back again today. I can't wait to see Warner's images from the show, since he outshot me at Cocoa Beach with half the focal length in the first place so I'm sure he got some beautiful images. And the gear is a fixable problem.

The accident happened because I switched straps to the BlackRapid "R-strap" (absolutely love it, by the way) and I was not sufficiently careful about using old habits on new gear. Operator error. With the stock straps, I always had the camera strap on my neck, so to switch lenses I'd let go of the camera and hold a lens in each hand. Over the last two weeks with the R-strap, I've used it the same way... but since you can switch the R-strap's quick-release clip to the lens collar, I did attach the strap to the lens so it would be easier to balance and carry the combo that way. It was much more comfortable!

But when I wanted to remove the TC and just use the lens, I kept a tight hold on the lens and let go of the camera...and the lens was securely held by my hands and the strap while the camera was not attached to any straps at all. Oops. I drop things so often that I've learned to stick my foot out as Jon suggests (bruises are my friends), but in this case my reaction time was not fast enough. By the time I realized that the camera wasn't putting weight on the strap, it was too late... the D3x was nearly to the floor already, so I only had time to watch it hit, bounce, and do its best "murder victim" impression for the crowd.

Here's Anya's first airshow pic:




Exif information
Model COOLPIX L4
Date 2009:11:08 14:30:57
Original date 2009:11:07 15:45:13
Exposure time 1/320 sec
Focal length 19mm
Focal number f/8.0
ISO speed 50 ISO
Exposure compensation 0.0



Nov 08, 2009 at 07:29 PM
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p.604 #11 · Mustang Air to Air " The Sequel"


Yeah the F4 Rules
Did some reading up on the Isap site with the photo shop tips very useful for larger images !, i think because of the downsizing i still lose to much detail but i think that's in never table? hope that is correct





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Model Canon EOS-1D Mark II
Date 2009:11:08 20:28:13
Original date 2007:09:16 19:10:57
Exposure time 1/125 sec
Focal length 180mm
Focal number f/13.0
ISO speed 100 ISO
Exposure compensation 0.0



Nov 08, 2009 at 07:34 PM
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p.604 #12 · Mustang Air to Air " The Sequel"


Great photo from Anya gives me a kind of artistic feel about it.
I hope that they can help you quick with your gear would like to see Anya have a go with your equipment even so here photo is a little blurry all the right things are there.
Maybe in a couple of years.

Nov 08, 2009 at 07:52 PM
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p.604 #13 · Mustang Air to Air " The Sequel"


Couple more from yesterday...

Rob











Nov 08, 2009 at 07:53 PM
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p.604 #14 · Mustang Air to Air " The Sequel"


Just hate that I clipped the tail, but I still like it...

Rob






Nov 08, 2009 at 08:00 PM
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p.604 #15 · Mustang Air to Air " The Sequel"


Rob-
That first shot of "Hamster" is fantastic!

Nov 08, 2009 at 08:43 PM
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p.604 #16 · Mustang Air to Air " The Sequel"


Thanks! Wish I'd had a little bit lower shutter speed, but then I probably wouldn't have gotten it at all :-)

I'm not near as good as Jim in hand holding an 800...

Rob

Nov 08, 2009 at 08:51 PM
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p.604 #17 · Mustang Air to Air " The Sequel"


BTW, if you have any more F-4 shots, throw them up! I love that bird!

Nov 08, 2009 at 08:55 PM
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p.604 #18 · Mustang Air to Air " The Sequel"


I'm just starting to go through the pictures from yesterday, but my big disappointment is that somehow, I just didn't get many of the F-4 :-(

Rob

Nov 08, 2009 at 09:00 PM
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p.604 #19 · Mustang Air to Air " The Sequel"


waterflyboy22 wrote:
Rob-
That first shot of "Hamster" is fantastic!

Seconded!!

I really like the square crop, the composition is excellent.

Nov 08, 2009 at 09:07 PM
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p.604 #20 · Mustang Air to Air " The Sequel"


Whoops, I lied... Just loaded another card into Lightroom and looks like I got a bunch more F-4 shots with the other camera. I'll get them processed up shortly.

Love that old bird!

Rob

Nov 08, 2009 at 09:12 PM
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p.604 #21 · Mustang Air to Air " The Sequel"


Thirds!

That crop on that plane in that position is A#1! Love that shot Rob.

Nov 08, 2009 at 09:27 PM
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p.604 #22 · Mustang Air to Air " The Sequel"


Thanks, Jon!

I actually think I have a couple other similar ones I'll have to look at.

It was a bit more humid yesterday than at Alliance, so a few obligatory shots of artificially cloud formation...

Rob
















Nov 08, 2009 at 09:46 PM
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p.604 #23 · Mustang Air to Air " The Sequel"


These are the ones on either side of the one posted earlier. Nice, but I like the square one best, I think.

Rob











Nov 08, 2009 at 09:55 PM
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p.604 #24 · Mustang Air to Air " The Sequel"


So I learned that I have more to learn about big lens shooting. I'd like to think that the mostly overcast sky hampered my attempts at least a little...
Here are a few attempts:








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(One of the few shots I have with any hint of blue sky)


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Nov 08, 2009 at 10:15 PM
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p.604 #25 · Mustang Air to Air " The Sequel"


A couple more.


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So this one was just neat to shoot, coming off the top of the vertical rolling climb, smoke off and pulling over the top.

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