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Great mirrorless points all, we all have different needs, investments and motivations and that's a great thing. Looks like I'm in town for the Nikon unveiling downtown and I have the invitation, so I'll most likely go. The always nit picky photographic contingent cheered for a day after the announcement and has spent every day since then tearing the Z7 apart. Mostly, I ignore all of that stuff and analyze the gear for my use. I wouldn't be thinking mirrorless were it not for the Ronin S. Personally, I am comfortable with a big body in my hands, that's why I immediately added battery grips to my D800/D810/ 5DSR bodies before I ever left the store. Sticking a mirrorless body, no matter how capable, on the end of a 200-400/600/800 creates, maybe just for me, a very uncomfortable lack of balance. You have a couple pound camera connected to an 11 pound lens, the tail is wagging the dog so to speak.

I'm sure the Z7 has shortcomings, what camera doesn't, especially first iterations, but I have to say that their demo reel was excellent and peaked my interest. The photographer/videographer was very talented, but the capabilities of the camera on a very fast moving and spontaneous assignment were clearly on display, both in still and video modes. Like I said, everyone's needs and expectations are different but depending upon what I see and feel that camera and a few Nikon lenses might well be a good thing for me. I can expense that investment over a couple of assignments, a privilege I do not take for granted, and which adds another dimension to decisions like this.

And, once again, cuz I'm not an "Explorer", "Ambassador", or Indian Chief for anyone brand, I can hop back and forth across that fence as often as it makes sense. Canon has something in the works I hear, but it will have to go some to take the shine off the Z7 I believe.

Whoa!!! Better not fudge TOPP with our Buddy Anwar on board..................







Aug 29, 2018 at 03:55 PM
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JWilsonphoto wrote:
Great mirrorless points all, we all have different needs, investments and motivations and that's a great thing. Looks like I'm in town for the Nikon unveiling downtown and I have the invitation, so I'll most likely go. The always nit picky photographic contingent cheered for a day after the announcement and has spent every day since then tearing the Z7 apart. Mostly, I ignore all of that stuff and analyze the gear for my use. I wouldn't be thinking mirrorless were it not for the Ronin S. Personally, I am comfortable with a big body in my hands, that's why
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For me, camera grip is a must, I cannot handle a small teeny tiny camera, neither physically nor emotionally. 1D series fits my hand to the maximum level, although I am starting to feel bone aches (as some were talking about) as I reached 42 now.

I imagined what you mentioned Jim, a tiny camera hooked to a 500 f/4 monster funny looking combination, both cosmetically and functionally, what an imbalanced one, specially for airshows.



Aug 29, 2018 at 04:33 PM
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Jim, that image is spectacular -- even for you.

There aren't enough O's in woooooooooooooooowwww...



Aug 29, 2018 at 05:40 PM
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p.274 #4 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Dear Nick,

Fascinating questions you pose, but first, let's dispel any doubt about you creative gift. You possess both the gift to create beautiful, thought provoking imagery as well as the gift of appreciation for great images. Your questions immediately made me think of how frustrated I used to get as I wandered the banks of The Mighty Mississippi between classes (occasionally during them with my Minolta SRT 101 and a 50/1.2 lens. I just knew that there were images all around me that I wasn't seeing and it drove me nuts. That frustration may well have been part of the reason I wasn't seeing them, as well as some other factors like having one lens, no formal training, and the somewhat underwhelming landscape around Quincy Illinois. That being said, I had a burning desire to acquire the "style" and individual "vision" the magazines all spoke of, tough, but not impossible to do with a body and a lens. During my high school and college years I always had a camera in my hands, beginning with my older brother's discarded Kodak Instamatic. Soon I realized that an upgrade was essential if I was going to have a prayer of emulating the imagery I was pouring over in Nat Geo, LIFE, and other iconic publications. Still in High school and without a driver's license I would ride my Schwinn downtown to the local camera store and water into the display cases filled with, at the time, unreachable imaging equipment. Names like Leica, Rolliflex, and Nikon stared back at me, taunted me in fact. I was sure that if I just had one of those cameras "I could be a contender......" Much like my position in cinema one rah last four years, I didn't even know what I didn't know, and I was deeply entrenched in the "gear makes the photographer" mindset. Well, I'm not easily diverted from my goals now and that hasn't changed over the years, so I mowed lawns until I was blue in the face, sold some prized possessions, begged, borrowed and, well borrowed some more, until the day I rode my bike downtown and peeled off for a Miranda Sensorex..............(cue the heavenly music and corpuscular rays)............ I peddled home as fast as I could and began to learn that camera. The Miranda read light from an eraser sized sensor on the front of the camera just to one side of the lens, state of the art man! One body, one lens, this was a syndrome that would haunt me for a few years because I had many more lawns to mow just to pay the vig on my new gear, muchless get even up. So, my creative vision was frozen in a 55mm viewpoint, but I didn't let that dampen my spirit and I learned my camera. I didn't really realize it at the time but as I poured over images that caught my eye, I began to store the elements that grabbed me in those photographs in the back of my mind and subsequently began to recognize those elements in daily life. Things like shadow and light, shallow depth of field, compression, motion blur, selective focus all became part of my subconscious eye. During those early years I had not the first clue how to go about reproducing those elements, and really knew so little that I didn't know that some of them couldn't be achieved with a 55mm/2.8 optic , man I tried though. The more I studied photographs, Steichen, Steiglitz, Ansel, and the staff shooters at LIFE and LOOK, the more my subconscious mind began to figure out a little of what it might take to move toward incorporating some of the elements that attracted me to others work, and make them my own.

I've never been strong at math (but I gleaned enough that I can put together a mean invoice), so the kind of engineering analytical skills that guys like Steve Zimmerman possess weren't there to help me decipher some of the things that needed deciphering. Trial and error and more trial and error was the path I had to take and somehow, in the back of my mind, an understanding and a style began to evolve. I was well on my way to knowing what I wanted to produce, but lacking in the areas of knowledge and financial where with all to get there anytime soon. Truth is, and I think this applies to many of us, if Nikon had dropped out of the sky with every cool tool they made and handed it all to me, it would have overwhelmed me and I might have given up in frustration. I found that style is developed, for me anyway, by discerning what you love about images (clearly and individual slant on everything one sees) and then. storing that in your mental library. There is something in these wondrous minds that God has blessed us with that then takes that information, those preferences and works to catalog them, understand them, and miraculously, ever so gradually help us understand how to capture those elements that bring about the emotion we had when we first recognized them in someone else's work. I suppose an analytical number crunching sort would have the ability to think through , "Oh, crop sensor, 2.8/200 mm optic, late afternoon 2.8 @ 200mm @ whatever shouter ]speed/iso" and as you Brits say, "Bob's your uncle!" Me, it took lots of film and lots of afternoons to figure out that I couldn't get it with a 55mm/2.8, which launched me on the quest to figure out why. A thousand of those journeys, maybe 10,000 of them Brought me to my style today and equally importantly, the ability to visualize what I want in a perfect photographic world, knowing the tools and conditions that will help me get as close to that sight picture as humanly possible. A serious knowledgeable hobbyist has a distinct advantage at this point because he or she can wait for this conditions, a shooting pro has to look at the desires of their client, the conditions at hand, the time constraints, and instantly formulate a course of action that will satisfy the vision in their head, the client's vision, and bend all the other variables to the degree possible, to accomplish those goals. The working pro lives in a much different world than the serious hobbyist and the unpressured artist. Many creatives cannot, or will not live in that environment and I sure understand that, but for the person who choose photography as a livelihood, the skills and attitude I just delineated is essential. That's why the failure rate is so high in professional photography, it's one thing to conjure up and produce stirring imagery when you have all the time in the world, quite another to be able to do it with a gun to your head and a foot in your back.

So, you have trod the long path of trial and error and you are beginning to realize what equipment and conditions might be necessary to create some of those images that are beginning to form in your mind. The next bucket odf ice water in this journey is figuring out that your dream image is within your grasp................if you just had a camera that shot 15 fps, or wasn't a crop sensor, worse yet, try have the camera body, you just lack the $12,000 600/f4L optic that would get you where you have dreamed of being since you clicked your first shutter. I'm not sure which is more frustrating, "seeing" but not knowing how to get there, or "seeing and knowing" but also knowing the gear needed is out of reach. Believe me, I have spent copious amount soft time in both those spheres, but you know what, there's not a morning that goes by that as I open dream case after dream case, I don't look up in thanks for the blessing. Make no mistake, it's the journey that creates that sprint in you, had Canon pulled up 40 years ago an unloaded the truck, a lot of this may never have happened and I darn sure wouldn't have the same appreciation for it all.

I firmly believe that once you have developed the skills to visualize your style in most every situation you find yourself continually honing the skills that allow you to achieve what you dream. There is a short answer to one of your questions, folks either have the talent to visualize, or they do not. If one has it then, depending upon motivation and tenacity, it can be polished and developed to an amazing degree, but if it's not there in the first place, well it's like someone walking me through an algebraic equation while my eyes roll back in my head.

There it is, in 100,000 words + or - I hope folks chime in on their experience with this because your questions are excellent!



Aug 29, 2018 at 06:39 PM
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Rodolfo Paiz wrote:
Jim, that image is spectacular -- even for you.

There aren't enough O's in woooooooooooooooowwww...


Thanks Rodolfo, the marshmallows did taste a bit like JP4 but it kind of added to the mood of the evening.......



Aug 29, 2018 at 06:41 PM
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Looking forward to Chandler and me heading back to that location later this fall, always a treat!







Aug 29, 2018 at 06:47 PM
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JWilsonphoto wrote:
Dear Nick,

Fascinating questions you pose, but first, let's dispel any doubt about you creative gift. You possess both the gift to create beautiful, thought provoking imagery as well as the gift of appreciation for great images. Your questions immediately made me think of how frustrated I used to get as I wandered the banks of The Mighty Mississippi between classes (occasionally during them with my Minolta SRT 101 and a 50/1.2 lens. I just knew that there were images all around me that I wasn't seeing and it drove me nuts. That frustration may well have been part of the
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Jim,
I know that you were speaking to Nick with the above quote but it really hits home for me as I sometimes feel the struggle of how do I expand the creative gift that the Lord has given all of us. I have multitudes of ideas as I look around but I often have difficulty capturing them in the way that I want to. I am so thankful to have this forum where people like me have access to the level of photographers that post here. It is inspiring to know that such outstanding photographers have been in the same place. I appreciate each one of you and it is amazing to think that the level of photographers who are present here seem to always be glad to take a moment to help those of us who are just getting our feet wet.



Aug 29, 2018 at 07:51 PM
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Epic post, Jim. One for the ages, and one which we all should read and reread as we examine our own lives and undertakings. I plan on showing it to my kids this weekend as we talk philosophy about their own lives. And with your permission, I'll add a brief (*cough*) comment or ten.

JWilsonphoto wrote:
So, you have trod the long path of trial and error[...]


That long path of trial and error never ends, as your video, Ronin, time-lapse, and other recent adventures can show. The peace to live with what you've got -- in terms of tools, mindset, knowledge, and everything else -- and to work happily within those limitations as you simultaneously stretch constantly to learn more, be better, and grow faster, comes from understanding that the long path of trial and error never ends, and that enjoying the journey is the key to enjoying life... and succeeding at it. Even (or especially) the greatest masters who ever lived trod the long path of trial and error, and constantly experimented with new things and new disciplines to learn and grow.

I've studied Leonardo da Vinci at length... and his life was not a series of well-executed examples of things he already knew how to do. Instead, his entire life was a series of learning exercises and experiments to get better and learn more about everything. So should our lives be as well. It took me until this year, aged 46, to finally and completely accept this reality and truly enjoy the long path of trial and error. And I cannot begin to tell you how much "error" there has been along my path!

JWilsonphoto wrote:
I firmly believe that once you have developed the skills to visualize your style in most every situation you find yourself continually honing the skills that allow you to achieve what you dream.


Amen.

JWilsonphoto wrote:
There is a short answer to one of your questions, folks either have the talent to visualize, or they do not. If one has it then, depending upon motivation and tenacity, it can be polished and developed to an amazing degree, but if it's not there in the first place, well it's like someone walking me through an algebraic equation while my eyes roll back in my head.


I would say this differently. All of us can learn to visualize, and even the "vision-challenged" can (with the requisite motivation and tenacity and lots of elbow grease) learn to be a good craftsman. This is my case in photography: over time and over hundreds of thousands of images, I've become a good craftsman and I can create a good image in many cases: I know enough about both the artistic and technical sides of photography, and I've got the experience. But not everyone has the built-in talent to be a master, just as not everyone has the reflexes or the body to be a star athlete; and I will never be a Jim Wilson or Jay Beckman. I simply was not born with the innate talent to produce at that level, and no amount of work would ever get me there.

And that's absolutely fine. Only a few will ever be "world-class" in anything, and most of us will not be world-class at anything. The joy, the thrill, and the goosebumps come from exceeding my own previous high-water marks, not from comparing myself to others. (And if you're not great at something, or not willing to spend your entire lifetime working at it, don't make a career of it!)

At anything you do, walk the long path of trial and error. Put in the time, the effort, the learning and the work to get as good as you can, and love every part of that journey as well as the bright moments of success and achievement when you see them. Maximize whatever vision the Lord gave you. And don't sweat the fact that others do it better.



Aug 29, 2018 at 07:53 PM
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A postscript: all of this may sound preachy and cliché. But it's so true...


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Thanks Rodolfo, means a lot coming from you. Give the kids my best!


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Dear Joe,

You are very kind, but I already knew that Nick's question was, is excellent, and it, itself tells me that he has a gift and he has the desire and tenacity to realize it, proving Rodolfo's theorem to a degree.We all know that Nick has more than a modicum of talent, he's just hit one of those speed bumps we all encounter and the result is a bit of discouragement sprinkled with a generous portion of self doubt.......been there and I'll say it here amongst friends, very good friends, and no one reads this little site anyway , there are days, every once in a while, where I feel much the same way. The best remedy is to pull out some favorite images, think back through successes that you could never have imagined, get. alit sleep and go after it again. Doesn't really matter what "it" is, the formula is a good one.......well except the part about the photographs, that wouldn't work if you are a math wizard, but I have limited sympathy for those folks anyway...................just kidding.

Anyway, we are fortunate to have you in this great group, we all learn from each other and there's no help that won't be happily offered, that's one of the many things that makes this such a remarkable place and why even though we have to fall on an occasional grenade someone lobs in, MA2A rolls on bigger than the sum of it's parts. So, I'm grateful/thankful for each and every one of you, we've got a lot of history here.

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BTW, pursuing your dreams seems to be good for one's health, stopped in for a quick check at my Docs today, 120/72 and down about 20 lbs from a year ago. I'll take that!


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I'm calling in favors this morning, promised Chandler that we would go to Oshkosh 2019 and spend the whole week shooting and taking in the grandeur. When I took JR up every year we camped, but my vision of roughing it is a Marriott Courtyard these days, romantic as under the wing residences might be, been there done that. Problem is, "No room at the inn....." , so I just emailed a buddy/client of mine who is VP of marketing for Marriott in hopes that he can pull a string for me. We're going up on the 22nd and staying for the duration so Chandler can get his fill.


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alawadhi wrote:
Nick, did you try a B&W version of this?



Well …… There is a bit of a story to tell. That fantastic stand of trees was a source of fascination for me. If you’d like to look it up, they are located in Ancroft, Northumberland, UK. I did many trips to “the trees” as they became known, since they where near home at that time. When I took the picture in question, I was on a planned trip. My intention was to do a night shoot with some simple light painting. Long story short, it took for ever to get an image without the head lights of a passing car messing things up. The orange light you see is a couple of street lights in the cluster of houses that is Ancroft. The spot light on the trees is me light painting. The exposure was 4 minutes. Even at base ISO, 4 minutes on a 5D MK I is very noisy if you try to bring the shadows up or try to get some articulation in the sky. So for the moment I’ve not given the noise reduction the full beans and just concentrated on colour. Here is a fairly tame B&W as a starter. I may work it some more as the whim takes me. Wadayathink?




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Writing from a hospital room. Yesterday was officially a sucky day. Vet appointment for Jerri, too sick to keep her alive. Get home, don't feel good, get chills, get into bed and sleep for a bit. Wake up to excruciating pain. Drive myself to the base hospital. I have a room for a few days. No work for a while either.


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Well I don't really "like" that post, but I do like you and I'm sorry all that is happening at the moment. Feel better soon.

JW



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Oh Laura that’s awful. So sorry to hear about Jerri. Then you’re unwell. Thanks for keeping us up to date. Please be better soon.

Have a flower.




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Hi guys I'm after some advice.

In a few weeks I'm lucky enough to be taking a flight in a TF-51. This will be purely a flight experience rather than a photography sortie. However I have the chance to mount a Go Pro 4 Hero Black in the cockpit.

I am a complete noob when it comes to video. Any recommendations as to what settings I should use? I'd like to capture stills as well if possible so I could get some prints as we do aerobatics.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions

Cheers

James



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NightOwl Cat wrote:
Writing from a hospital room. Yesterday was officially a sucky day. Vet appointment for Jerri, too sick to keep her alive. Get home, don't feel good, get chills, get into bed and sleep for a bit. Wake up to excruciating pain. Drive myself to the base hospital. I have a room for a few days. No work for a while either.


Oh no! I hope they figure out what's going on so you can finally get your feet underneath you and keep them there for a while!

Erich



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James, I don't have any advice on the camera, but do on the experience. I was lucky enough to take a flight in the P-51 Crazy Horse many years ago. It's such a sensory stimulating event that it's definitely better to take in the moment rather than worry about photos. From the moment the engine barks to life and everything starts vibrating until the moment of shutdown, when the plane stills but your body and brain are still at full speed, it's an amazing experience.

Erich



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