I have had the D70 now for a while and have found out its weakness in my point og view. I miss a bigger viewfinder and a vertical grip. Exept for that i am very pleased with my D70.
I now know of a very good used D1x and wonder if its worth the uppgrade.
The D1x has the thins that i miss with my D70, but I have read that D1x "eats" batterys. Is this as bad as many says it is?
I also wonder if I will notice any big difference in picture quality. With my D70 I shoot only NEF to get the best out of my images.
I have had the D70 now for a while and have found out its weakness in my point og view. I miss a bigger viewfinder and a vertical grip. Exept for that i am very pleased with my D70.
I now know of a very good used D1x and wonder if its worth the uppgrade.
The D1x has the thins that i miss with my D70, but I have read that D1x "eats" batterys. Is this as bad as many says it is?
I also wonder if I will notice any big difference in picture quality. With my D70 I shoot only NEF to get the best out of my images.
Others can better speak to personal experiences, but you may want to look at this discussion of image quality and images comparing D2h and D70 sensor pixel quality.
THer is no comparing the 2 really , the D1x simply blows it away. I have owned and shot both. The files from the D1x is so sharp and more shadow recovery is possible too. I liked the D70 for what it is but I loved the D1x
I have had the D70 now for a while and have found out its weakness in my point og view. I miss a bigger viewfinder and a vertical grip. Exept for that i am very pleased with my D70.
I now know of a very good used D1x and wonder if its worth the uppgrade.
The D1x has the thins that i miss with my D70, but I have read that D1x "eats" batterys. Is this as bad as many says it is?
I also wonder if I will notice any big difference in picture quality. With my D70 I shoot only NEF to get the best out of my images.
The battery issue with the D1x is well known. As far as comparing the D1x with D70---the D1x is a pro-level camera, while the D70 is an entry-level prosumer camera. The D1x is the better camera, and will produce beautiful images. The D1x is an historically important camera that served the industry faithfully and reliably for years---while the D70 will be a mere blip on the Nikon scale in retrospect. The D1x is a joy to use and experience, the D70 less so because of it's poorer viewfinder, and a host of other build factors.
Scott
Edited by genghis45 on Apr 21, 2005 at 07:18 PM GMT
The D70 and D100 are excellent cameras and make excellent images, everything else aside. Build quality comes at the expense of weight, if this matters. Depends on what you need. Incidentally, the "lightweight", "non pro level", "consumer", D70 and D100 are not exactly flimsy, either. No argument about the viewfinder. Even my N80 has a better finder than the D70 and the D100. None compare to my Olympus OM's. Haven't tried an F5 or D1x, but the OM's were better than the F100, in my opinion, in as far as the viewfinder goes.
chemprof wrote:
the "lightweight", "non pro level", "consumer", D70 and D100 are not exactly flimsy, either. No argument about the viewfinder. Even my N80 has a better finder than the D70 and the D100. None compare to my Olympus OM's. Haven't tried an F5 or D1x, but the OM's were better than the F100, in my opinion, in as far as the viewfinder goes.
Gerald
Don't know how old you are Gerald (I've done bumped 50), but you sound a lot like me when it comes to viewfinders I really miss the big bright finders of the old film bodies. The finder in the D2X is much better than my D100, but it doesn't compare in brightness to the old film bodies.
My D100 had a crap load of miles on it, even though it was low in shutter actuations when I sold it, but it is an extremely durable camera. It rides the road well. Don't know about the D70, but I do know that the poly-carbonate bodies are virtually indestructable. However, there is something tangible in the 'feel' of the pro bodies that I love. For the first time, the camera truly does feel like it becomes a part of me, and not some alien object. Sure it's heavier, but man, does it feel right!
My experience with the D1X is nothing more than a road test, but after that, I would say, don't pick up a D1X unless you were serious about purchasing it It really is a fine camera. As you've said, they all make extremely good images.
I, like you shot the D70 for a while and loved it. As soon as the D1X prices started to fall, I wanted to upgrade. In my opinion there is no comparison. I sold my D70 and have not looked back. The D1X gives you wonderful RAW files to work with and feels good in the hands. I would grab that camera.
jacko wrote:
Don't know how old you are Gerald (I've done bumped 50), but you sound a lot like me when it comes to viewfinders I really miss the big bright finders of the old film bodies. The finder in the D2X is much better than my D100, but it doesn't compare in brightness to the old film bodies.
My D100 had a crap load of miles on it, even though it was low in shutter actuations when I sold it, but it is an extremely durable camera. It rides the road well. Don't know about the D70, but I do know that the poly-carbonate bodies are virtually indestructable. However, there is something tangible in the 'feel' of the pro bodies that I love. For the first time, the camera truly does feel like it becomes a part of me, and not some alien object. Sure it's heavier, but man, does it feel right!
My experience with the D1X is nothing more than a road test, but after that, I would say, don't pick up a D1X unless you were serious about purchasing it It really is a fine camera. As you've said, they all make extremely good images.
I'm 44 (next month), and have been using SLR's since I was 12 years old. My first one was a used Ricoh TLS 401 (cool camera in that it had a spot meter and an eye-level finder built in), but then I standardized on the OM system in 1980 (I still have that camera). I still think it's too bad that that "standard" was completely abandoned by Olympus. I went Nikon because of their ergonomics and because of the history of the F mount. I have not regrets, and make due with my finders (until I pick up one of my OM's!).
If you do a lot of flash photography, consider that you'll lose i-TTL by switching from the D70 to the D1x. The SB-800 works very nicely on my D1x, but it works better on my D70 and D2h.
Build, batteries, viewfinder, all the other stuff ...
All things considered, if I had to choose between my D70 and my D1x, the x would win hands down.
Does anyone have examples of the picture detail between the two cameras. To me the picture quality is the bottom line. I currently have a Digital Rebel and am pretty tired of it. I want to switch to Nikon, but I want a pro level camera. I am looking at getting a D1x, but am still not sure it is the best idea. Everyone here seems to love and praise the D1x, but I have read a few reviews outside of FM and they think the D1x is a dinosaur and should be avoided, but man I can't quit thinking about it. I think I am over analyzing myself to death. I like the fact that Canon makes there own sensors, but hate the feel of the cameras. Nikon on the other hand feels right and I love their pro bodies, but all I can afford is a used D1x. I just can't make up my mind. Sorry for the rambling.
miyaco wrote:
Does anyone have examples of the picture detail between the two cameras. To me the picture quality is the bottom line. I currently have a Digital Rebel and am pretty tired of it. I want to switch to Nikon, but I want a pro level camera. I am looking at getting a D1x, but am still not sure it is the best idea. Everyone here seems to love and praise the D1x, but I have read a few reviews outside of FM and they think the D1x is a dinosaur and should be avoided, but man I can't quit thinking about it. I think I am over analyzing myself to death. I like the fact that Canon makes there own sensors, but hate the feel of the cameras. Nikon on the other hand feels right and I love their pro bodies, but all I can afford is a used D1x. I just can't make up my mind. Sorry for the rambling.
Ok..here is the problem with showing the difference between cameras. I did a side by side comparison with the D2H, D70, D100 and D1X. The problem is, when you take the shots down to websize versions, you loose a lot of the real image quality difference.
You can look at lots of pics with various Nikon Camera HERE
But all you will see diffinitively is the ability of the powerful focus engine to capture quick sharp images on the D2H and D1X compared to the D100/D70.
DragonflyDM wrote:
Ok..here is the problem with showing the difference between cameras. I did a side by side comparison with the D2H, D70, D100 and D1X. The problem is, when you take the shots down to websize versions, you loose a lot of the real image quality difference.
You can look at lots of pics with various Nikon Camera HERE
But all you will see diffinitively is the ability of the powerful focus engine to capture quick sharp images on the D2H and D1X compared to the D100/D70.
You can compare 100% crops if two images of the same subject are available with more than one camera, given appropriate set-ups. Once again, samples can be seen if you follow my link. That's for D70 vs D2H, but he also has a review of D1X.
You should probably also consider the D2H. There was a thread a couple of weeks ago where a photo student asked for suggestions re the D1X and the D2H. Most (or all) of the responses stated that the D2H was the "better" body. Try searching for that thread and see what you think.
In my very limited experience with the D2H (only one day) it looks like it behaves prettty much like what people state here. It's VERRRRRRRY fast and also a bit noisey at high ISO. If you don't need high ISO performance and you want a FAST camera than it seems like a no-brainer to me.
Oh, you can get D2H's for the same price as the D1X. About $1400.
I really miss the big bright finders of the old film bodies. The finder in the D2X is much better than my D100, but it doesn't compare in brightness to the old film bodies.
It really is a fine camera. As you've said, they all make extremely good images.