p.2 #1 · 7D2 coming but not just yet and possibly not just a spec up but evolving???
Opinion only...just gut feeling.
The 7D Mark II body will start at or around 2k, right around the 6D's opening price.
As for specs, it's not going to be a 1DX, but will surprise many just like the 7D did.
It will make for quite the 5D3 partner, perhaps even for the 6D...
At around 4K the newer 6/7Ds would make quite a usable kit.
p.2 #2 · 7D2 coming but not just yet and possibly not just a spec up but evolving???
15Bit wrote
They already tread this line with the 5D3, but if the 7D2 is too good, it might not the case that the 7D2 takes 1Dx sales, but that the 5D3+7D2 combo takes 1Dx sales...
Canon would make 10x as much money from selling the 5D III + 7D 2 combo. These cameras sell in far higher numbers. Who cares if they lose a few sales on the 1D X, all that matter si is the bottom line, not what path you take to get there.
p.2 #3 · 7D2 coming but not just yet and possibly not just a spec up but evolving???
15Bit wrote:
They already tread this line with the 5D3, but if the 7D2 is too good, it might not the case that the 7D2 takes 1Dx sales, but that the 5D3+7D2 combo takes 1Dx sales...
Will it really matter though? I have no idea what the sales numbers actually look like but I would bet that by the end of this year when a 7D2 might be available Canon will have sold the vast majority of 1DX's they are ever going to sell. Come out with a kick butt mid level pro body and you will sell a ton of them. Far more profit then a few 1DX's you might not sell.
p.2 #4 · 7D2 coming but not just yet and possibly not just a spec up but evolving???
ggreene wrote:
Will it really matter though?
A good question, and I guess none of us know the answer. Internally i would expect that they do need to justify the existence of the flagship model and it's associated development costs, so there has to be some sort of pressure to make sure that as many people as possible buy them. That will inevitably include positioning the 5D and 7D products in such a way that they are attractive to mid-range buyers but not to potential 1Dx buyers.
p.2 #5 · 7D2 coming but not just yet and possibly not just a spec up but evolving???
In the past Canon has definitely isolated features to certain series but hopefully the 5D3/1DX is a sign that they are changing that. As Pixel said it's a bottomline business. They will recover the 1DX development costs far quicker by selling tons more 7D2 bodies.
p.2 #6 · 7D2 coming but not just yet and possibly not just a spec up but evolving???
I wonder how much faster the 1DX is AFing as say compared to the 5D3 with a super tele. My guess is even with the same AF system, the 7D2 would be slower because the 1DX can drive the lens faster. I don't know if this has been quantified anywhere.
p.2 #10 · 7D2 coming but not just yet and possibly not just a spec up but evolving???
Lasse Eriksson wrote:
He had a different spec list the other seven times he wrote about the 7DII
If I buy seven copies, will I get seven different configurations?
If you are going to discredit a rumor, at least check the facts, errr,, actual rumors.
They are unusually consistent on all spec points ever mentioned:
Today:
"
24.1mp APS-C Sensor
Dual DIGIC V
10fps
Dual Memory Card Slots (Unknown configuration)
61 AF Points (I wonder if we’ll get red focus points in AIS?)
3.2″ LCD
Build quality like 5D3
GPS & Wifi
$2199 ($500 more than the 7D at launch, I’d like to see such a camera come in under $2000)
ISO Performance to get close to the 5D3
“Lots of video features”
"
feb 1 :
"I don’t see a return of APS-H,"
"If a pro APS-C camera comes, I can see it borrowing heavily from the EOS-1D X as far as framerate and AF performance go. Build quality would also be quite stellar."
Jan 1:
"EOS 7D Mark II – New Sensor, 10fps, ISO 25600"
Nov 30:
"The 10fps feature we and others have been told about is a big part of the plan. The camera will also get some technologies from the EOS-1D X, like the AF system and noise performance. While it may not have 61 focus points, the performance could be on par.
A different megapixel count of 21mp has also been mentioned. There’s a good chance various configurations of test cameras exist."
Nov 26:
"
24.2mp APS-C Sensor
10.2 fps
Dual DIGIC V
Dual Card Slot (No mention of card types)
New Ergonomic Design
New Battery
"
October 8:
"Specs are minimal, as should be expected. However, it should have a 20+ megapixel sensor and the ability to shoot 10fps. The frame rate is a “targeted spec” for the camera."
September 23:
"A new sensor line will appear in 2013 that will be seen across the entire APS-C lineup. Expect to see the first announcements in the first half of 2013.
The delays in developing the sensor was apparently a big reason for the big firmware update for the 7D. It’s also suggested that there may not be a 7D/60D amalgamation in the future. The 7D Mark II will not be an APS-H camera as some have wished/rumored.
"
p.2 #11 · 7D2 coming but not just yet and possibly not just a spec up but evolving???
No reason to suppose Canon will revert from type. They have, traditionally, had tight feature rationing that has only loosened up to compete with Nikon's more liberal feature set (D3 verses D700). Canon may wait for Nikon's new D7100 (7D like APS C) to see what they have to match, otherwise they will, likely, be too stingy. After all Canon must be planning the 7D Mk III equivalent by now.
p.2 #14 · 7D2 coming but not just yet and possibly not just a spec up but evolving???
Personally, I think that spec list is completely reasonable. If they put the 1Dx AF in the 5D3, why not the 7D2? small bump in fps, it's dual digic 5 (not the 5+ in the 1Dx), and of course a small bump up in the sensor. I'm simply hoping for a one stop ISO improvement in the RAW files.
p.2 #18 · 7D2 coming but not just yet and possibly not just a spec up but evolving???
Schlotkins wrote:
Personally, I think that spec list is completely reasonable. If they put the 1Dx AF in the 5D3, why not the 7D2? small bump in fps, it's dual digic 5 (not the 5+ in the 1Dx), and of course a small bump up in the sensor. I'm simply hoping for a one stop ISO improvement in the RAW files.
Chris
AF array from an FF on a cropped body = complete coverage! It would look insane through the VF. hahaha...
If history were to repeat itself again, the 7d2 rumour spec would drive down the resale value of 1d4. Good times!
p.2 #19 · 7D2 coming but not just yet and possibly not just a spec up but evolving???
howard wrote:
You need not worry about that, the said site is self-discrediting
But how can we then use anything written there to determine that it is self-discrediting?
Personally, I like rumor sites. I have no problem taking everything with a big grain of salt, still in general they tell a lot about what is going to happen. And then a lot that is not going to happen. The biggest problem is timing. But much of that is really not to blame the rumor sources for. Companies change plans all the time. A rumor that was a true leak may not become reality because something in the world changed in the meantime. And I don't understand the type of criticism saying that he doesn't know anything, the rumors were presented elsewhere first.Heck, it is just a site collecting rumors. And in the end it is fun
p.2 #20 · 7D2 coming but not just yet and possibly not just a spec up but evolving???
fraga wrote:
Dual Digic V, 10fps and 61 AF points?
I seriously doubt that.
Though I would love to be proven wrong...
Why not
7D has Dual Digic IV so why would 7D2 with DD5 be a shock?
7D has 8fps so would 10fps but crazy??
7D has a souped up entry-level AF but they plan to charge a decent chunk more for the 7D2 than they did for the 7D so if it doesn't get full on 1 series AF then it would seem like a rip, no? And this is a sports/action cam.
It costs more and it's many years later and there ARE other manufacturers out there to deal with. Should it be 1 month from going out of date on day of first delivery?
What I wonder about is if it has a new process sensor that does low ISO DR much better or not. If not then start wondering when or if they will ever get there.
