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So, are you defending his conduct as being consistent with the guidelines that Fred has set forth for us to follow? And, even if he isn't trolling (for which I would gladly apologize for calling him) and is serious in his mind ... he still needs to conduct himself with his fellow FM'ers in better accordance with the conduct set forth by Fred. Many of us "get outa line" at times ... but a gentle nudge from our fellow FM'ers (especially when it is collective) is usually all it takes for us to self-regulate, or we wind up in "agree to disagree" mode ... not trashing the whole of the forum, personal attacks, "putting people in their place" and the remainder of the cadre of inappropriate conduct this OP has deliberately demonstrated on multiple accounts.
I'm all good with opinions are equally valid ... that hasn't been the issue ... it has been his intentional and deliberate treatment of his fellow members. Even someone without an ounce of a brain, such as myself (according to the OP) can recognize this individual for what he has demonstrated ... and has been so brazen in escalating.
Bif ... you and I went round & round for months a few years back. But never did we call each other "stupid" or a "whore". Nor did we ever render such personal attacks as the OP did on Mike, Carsten, Paul, etc. We continued to give each other credence and respect of human decency, yet challenged one another, as we tried to come to better understand each other's differing perspectives and opinions, all the while trying to prove our point. I know that you, I and many FM'ers truly appreciate the lack of censorship and self-regulation that FM affords ... but that is not license to grossly abuse such privilege that we have been granted by Fred and conduct oneself as this OP has demonstrated here.
This OP has clearly shown himself to be obstinately intentional to violate the code of conduct @ FM. As FM'ers we've seen a few new members get off on the wrong foot, so to speak. Heck, many of us got off to a "rocky start" as well. As such, we have a tolerance for new members learning how we play in the sandbox together. But, those who are interested in learning how we conduct ourselves and what is appropriate / allowed FM conduct, typically give an indication of pliability. This OP has instead, hardened himself against seasoned, good faith, FM'ers, and done so with intentional malice.
Unless he should decide to acknowledge that an FM code of conduct even exists, and aspire to rectify such things accordingly ... then I think that banning him is something that deserves proper consideration. We, of course, have no direct control over such ... but, the magnitude warrants the consideration ... if nothing more than to bring credence to the seriousness of his conduct in an effort to rectify it.
He is a relatively new member ... if he is mistaken as to what kind of place FM is, and correction will yield fruitfulness, so be it. But, his sheer lack of credence to conduct with his fellow members does not suggest a high probability of such occurring. I'm all good with "second chances" ... but I think it folly to believe that this OP would sincerely welcome such in good faith. The opportunity has been placed before him already ... and he has merely increasingly taunted in response ... lacking in remorse, humility or consideration for the gravity of his conduct.
This is one for Fred to address as he sees fit. Fred's forum, Fred's rules, Fred's decisions ... to which I will accept accordingly.