Rusty,
Of course you\'re technically right. I agree on all points. But I dunno. There\'s a mode of reaction (or interaction) here in Japan often typified by an older man (>50) taking HEAVY verbal abuse from a very young man (20ish) and at the end of it the older just smiles. Later sometimes in these stories, the younger man becomes the student or apprentice of the older but the initial verbal abuse was kinda necessary for both on very many non-verbal levels.
Maybe that\'s how it is sometimes with forums too?
I read a story about a famous museum in the states where the curator got his job (at 22) in exactly the same fashion so it\'s not just a Japanese thing either. Sometimes it\'s better to just smile...
artd,
IMO it\'s OK to say someone\'s photograph sucks or even that their work in general sucks. If that\'s what is really meant then why pussyfoot around about it. Hopefully an explanation will follow tho! On the other hand I don\'t think it\'s possible to determine if the person has any potential talent or not so that probably falls into the personal attack category - which isn\'t cool for sure. Then again, saying that the person exhibits a high degree of talentlessness or is talentless in general based on some body of work is again fine. Sure, it\'s not diplomatic or kind but diplomacy and kindness may not be thought the correct mode of discussion at the time or under the particular circumstances. Tough love?? I\'ve been told my work sucked! More than once even. In my case it made me want to become better - of course only after recovering the bits of my exploded ego.
Rusty,
Of course you\'re technically right. I agree on all points. But I dunno. There\'s a mode of reaction (or interaction) here in Japan often typified by an older man (>50) taking HEAVY verbal abuse from a very young man (20ish) and at the end of it the older just smiles. Later sometimes in these stories, the younger man becomes the student or apprentice of the older but the initial verbal abuse was kinda necessary for both on very many non-verbal levels.
Maybe that\'s how it is sometimes with forums too?
I read a story about a famous museum in the states where the curator got his job (at 22) in exactly the same fashion so it\'s not just a Japanese thing either. Sometimes it\'s better to just smile...
artd,
IMO it\'s OK to say someone\'s photograph sucks or even that their work in general sucks. If that\'s what is really meant then why pussyfoot around about it. Hopefully an explanation will follow tho! On the other hand I don\'t think it\'s possible to determine if the person has any potential talent or not so that probably falls into the personal attack category - which isn\'t cool for sure. Then again, saying that the person exhibits a high degree of talentlessness or is talentless in general based on some body of work is again fine. Sure, it\'s not diplomatic or kind but diplomacy and kindness may not be thought the correct mode of discussion at the time or under the particular circumstances. Tough love?? I\'ve been told my work sucked! More than once even. In my case it made me want to become better - of course only after recovering the bit of my exploded ego.
Rusty,
Of course you\'re technically right. I agree on all points. But I dunno. There\'s a mode of reaction (or interaction) here in Japan often typified by an older man (>50) taking HEAVY verbal abuse from a very young man (20ish) and at the end of it the older just smiles. Later sometimes in these stories, the younger man becomes the student or apprentice of the older but the initial verbal abuse was kinda necessary for both on very many non-verbal levels.
Maybe that\'s how it is sometimes with forums too?
I read a story about a famous museum in the states where the curator got his job (at 22) in exactly the same fashion so it\'s not just a Japanese thing either. Sometimes it\'s better to just smile...
artd,
IMO it\'s OK to say someone\'s photograph sucks or even that their work in general sucks. If that\'s what is really meant then why pussyfoot around about it. Hopefully an explanation will follow tho! On the other hand I don\'t think it\'s possible to determine if the person has any potential talent or not so that probably falls into the personal attack category - which isn\'t cool for sure. Then again, saying that the person exhibits a high degree of talentlessness or is talentless in general based on some body of work is again fine. Sure, it\'s not diplomatic or kind but diplomacy and kindness may not be thought the correct mode of discussion at the time or under the particular circumstances. Tough love?? I\'ve been told my work sucked! More than once even. In my case it made me want to become better - of course only after recovering from my exploded ego.
Rusty,
Of course you\'re technically right. I agree on all points. But I dunno. There\'s a mode of reaction (or interaction) here in Japan often typified by an older man (>50) taking HEAVY verbal abuse from a very young man (20ish) and at the end of it the older just smiles. Later sometimes in these stories, the younger man becomes the student or apprentice of the older but the initial verbal abuse was kinda necessary for both on very many non-verbal levels.
Maybe that\'s how it is sometimes with forums too?
I read a story about a famous museum in the states where the curator got his job (at 22) in exactly the same fashion so it\'s not just a Japanese thing either. Sometimes it\'s better to just smile...
artd,
IMO it\'s OK to say someone\'s photograph sucks or even that their work in general sucks. If that\'s what is really meant then why pussyfoot around about it. Hopefully an explanation will follow tho! On the other hand I don\'t it\'s possible to determine if the person has any potential talent or not so that probably falls into the personal attack category - which isn\'t cool for sure. Then again saying that the person exhibits a high degree of talentlessness based on some body of work is again fine. Sure, it\'s not diplomatic or kind but diplomacy and kindness may not be thought the correct mode of discussion at the time or under certain circumstances. Tough love?? I\'ve been told my work sucked! In my case it made me want to become better - of course only after recovering from my exploded ego.
Rusty,
Of course you\'re technically right. I agree on all points. But I dunno. There\'s a mode of reaction (or interaction) here in Japan often typified by an older man (>50) taking HEAVY verbal abuse from a very young man (20ish) and at the end of it the older just smiles. Later sometimes in these stories, the younger man becomes the student or apprentice of the older but the initial verbal abuse was kinda necessary for both on very many non-verbal levels.
Maybe that\'s how it is sometimes with forums too?
I read a story about a famous museum in the states where the curator got his job (at 22) in exactly the same fashion so it\'s not just a Japanese thing either. Sometimes it\'s better to just smile...
artd,
IMO it\'s OK to say someone\'s photograph sucks or even that their work in general sucks. If that\'s what is really meant then why pussyfoot around about it. On the other hand I don\'t it\'s possible to determine if the person has any potential talent or not so that probably falls into the personal attack category - which isn\'t cool for sure. Then again saying that the person exhibits a high degree of talentlessness based on some body of work is again fine. Sure, it\'s not diplomatic or kind but diplomacy and kindness may not be thought the correct mode of discussion at the time or under certain circumstances. Tough love?? I\'ve been told my work sucked! In my case it made me want to become better - of course only after recovering from my exploded ego.
Rusty,
Of course you\'re technically right. I agree on all points. But I dunno. There\'s a mode of reaction (or interaction) here in Japan often typified by an older man (>50) taking HEAVY verbal abuse from a very young man (20ish) and at the end of it the older just smiles. Later sometimes in these stories, the younger man becomes the student or apprentice of the older but the initial verbal abuse was kinda necessary for both on very many non-verbal levels.
Maybe that\'s how it is sometimes with forums too?
I read a story about a famous museum in the states where the curator got his job (at 22) in exactly the same fashion so it\'s not just a Japanese thing either. Sometimes it\'s better to just smile...
artd,
IMO it\'s OK to say someone\'s photograph sucks or even that their work in general sucks. If that\'s what is really meant then why pussyfoot around about it. On the other hand I don\'t it\'s possible to determine if the person has any potential talent or not so that probably falls into the personal attack category - which isn\'t cool for sure. Then again saying that the person exhibits a high degree of talentlessness based on some body of work is again fine. Sure, it\'s not diplomatic or kind but diplomacy and kindness may not be thought the correct more of discussion at the time.
Rusty,
Of course you\'re technically right. I agree on all points. But I dunno. There\'s a mode of reaction (or interaction) here in Japan often typified by an older man (>50) taking HEAVY verbal abuse from a very young man (20ish) and at the end of it the older just smiles. Later sometimes in these stories, the younger man becomes the student or apprentice of the older but the initial verbal abuse was kinda necessary for both on very many non-verbal levels.
Maybe that\'s how it is sometimes with forums too?
I read a story about a famous museum in the states where the curator got his job (at 22) in exactly the same fashion so it\'s not just a Japanese thing either. Sometimes it\'s better to just smile...
Dec 07, 2012 at 04:03 PM
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