I don't know who wrote the manual on videography and told these guys that they had to use 50mm lenses for everything. I am so tired of losing good shots because these jokers have to be 24 inches away from the subject/detail to get the closeup they want. get a 135mm
I have had to throw away so many shots from this wedding I am editing because these jack-asses are right on top of the bride. You would think they are the ones spending the night with her they are so all up on. argh
OMG.. i just helped someone from California for a wedding. He does both video and photography. He had 2 guys doing videos and constantly 3 people hovering the subjects really close. It was painful. All using wide angles 50 and wider.
I know it sucks. I always ask my brides IF they are using a vidiot, who they are and to be aware that IF they are constantly in her face that many shots will not be usable. I just put that into her head to she can't complain later on. That way I can try to do my job without worrying about it.
And yes, cheap ass vidiots who can't afford REAL video cameras opt for the cheap rebels and lenses to they have to be up the brides butt to get their shots.
The thing that irks me is the total lack of respect for anyone else at the wedding, not only the photographer.
all I gotta say is that I am super thankful that I am married to the videographer at most of my weddings and he does not do this crap.... and he never will. we work out deals with people to ensure IF they want video, that they can afford to hire both of us because I honestly would not want to work with the conditions of the unknown
Inku Yo wrote:
Document the day as it happens. If they're in the way, that's the way it happened.
That is really hard for me to do...I know it is what happened and all, but I hate giving photos that are great except for the idiot holding the other camera so close...
joelconner wrote:
That is really hard for me to do...I know it is what happened and all, but I hate giving photos that are great except for the idiot holding the other camera so close...
So, what are your options, really? Not take the shot? I'd rather have the shot or a really great moment, with someone else's camera in it, then no shot at all.
Im sure we all will just try to get our shots and work around the vidiots. But it's a major frustration. I once had a mom grab a vidiot who was standing opposite her in the middle of the aisle at the first row of chairs and pull him to the side and give him an earful. Next thing you know he's shooting from the far left out of anyone's view...
It took just one wedding a few years ago with a videographer two feet away from the couple the whole friggin day for me to include a videographer interference clause in my contract.
If a couple plans to have a videographer I explain the risks and show them pics of videographer interference. I explain to them that if a videographer needs to be so close to them that he is blocking everyone's view it's because he has inadequate equipment. Then I have them read and initial the videographer interference clause and sign. It's all I can do .. and I must say that it has cleared up the problem quite nicely
I'm doing a lot of videos (while my wife does photo) and I never understood these guys with "short lens". It's so much easier to stand in the far corner and just observe the action, instead of being in the middle of it. And also images/video look sooo much better if shot with long lens. So unless it's a reception with lots of dancing, I'm sticking to my 70-200 on my 7D for video purposes.
Mike Mahoney wrote:
If a couple plans to have a videographer I explain the risks and show them pics of videographer interference. I explain to them that if a videographer needs to be so close to them that he is blocking everyone's view it's because he has inadequate equipment. Then I have them read and initial the videographer interference clause and sign. It's all I can do .. and I must say that it has cleared up the problem quite nicely
Why does that matter? Do you guarantee "videographer free" photographs in your contract? If you don't then the presence of a videographer has no legal bearing on any contract.
joelconner wrote:
I don't know who wrote the manual on videography and told these guys that they had to use 50mm lenses for everything. I am so tired of losing good shots because these jokers have to be 24 inches away from the subject/detail to get the closeup they want. get a 135mm
I feel for you. I did a ceremony where the videographer used 15mm fisheye on a 7D and he was about a foot away from the couple during the entire ceremony. Wouldn't be so bad if he was on a tripod and kept still but he had a monopod and kept moving around.
