fredmiranda.com
Login

Moderated by: Fred Miranda
  New fredmiranda.com Mobile Site
  New Feature: SMS Notification alert
  New Feature: Buy & Sell Watchlist
  

FM Forums | Nikon Forum | Join Upload & Sell

       2       3       4       end
  

Archive 2010 · Battle of 85mm 1.4: Nikon AF-D vs Sigma

  
 
JR Magat
Offline
• • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.1 #1 · Battle of 85mm 1.4: Nikon AF-D vs Sigma


First impressions: Sigma 85mm 1.4 feels pretty solid, you notice the new coating right away with the rubberized feel. Overall it's bigger and "meatier" than the 85 1.4 AF-D; which is expected with the HSM. My feelings are that the Nikon 85/1.4D is a legend, so in order for me to replace it with the Sigma means that the Sigma needs to impress me!
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4062/5141133465_72a3555298_b.jpg

Test conditions: I used a tripod for this comparison shots. I simply mounted the different lens and kept all settings (aperture, shutter speed, ISO, focal point) are the same.

Wide open comparison:
Nikon
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4066/5140679343_9186380db0_b.jpg
Sigma
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4104/5141284158_af81bcbc72_b.jpg

Nikon
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4030/5141283294_38cce8a1f2_b.jpg
Sigma
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1356/5140678347_621ba3fc7a_b.jpg

Edited on Nov 02, 2010 at 09:06 PM · View previous versions



Nov 02, 2010 at 06:05 PM
JR Magat
Offline
• • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.1 #2 · Battle of 85mm 1.4: Nikon AF-D vs Sigma


people (my wife)

Disclaimer: I know the focus is not right AT ALL! It is not the lens, it is the shooter (me). It was cold and my infant baby was in her swing & awake so my wife wanted to be QUICK!

You can see how the lenses compare in it's background rendering. Both taken wide open

Nikon
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4030/5141278328_69c8cc4d63_b.jpg
Sigma
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4056/5140672319_4592209c86_b.jpg

Nikon
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1107/5140675013_d10361605f_b.jpg
Sigma
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4130/5141282208_f875c77509_b.jpg



Nov 02, 2010 at 06:22 PM
Jammy Straub
Offline
• • • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.1 #3 · Battle of 85mm 1.4: Nikon AF-D vs Sigma


I see things.

The Sigma's OOF areas are lower in contrast. (notice the dark vase in the background of the first images, there's more detail in the Sigma image. Also notice the dark plan 45degrees to the upper left of the in focus rose. The dark areas in the OOF region are lighter in the Sigma image).

The Sigma is a hair darker in light transmission. Look at the highlights along the white rail in the first image and on the rose petals in the second.

The Sigma's OOF areas have less defined transitions are somewhat smoother than the D's.

Interesting. Thank you very much for doing this comparison!

(PS I hadn't seen the people photos when I posted this)



Nov 02, 2010 at 06:24 PM
JR Magat
Offline
• • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.1 #4 · Battle of 85mm 1.4: Nikon AF-D vs Sigma


Nikon
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1319/5141275784_9d64e29804_b.jpg
Sigma
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4144/5141276274_01bdea21d9_b.jpg



Nov 02, 2010 at 06:25 PM
JR Magat
Offline
• • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.1 #5 · Battle of 85mm 1.4: Nikon AF-D vs Sigma


Nikon
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1089/5140669991_59faa69e32_b.jpg
Sigma
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1327/5140669477_f50971d8a7_b.jpg



Nov 02, 2010 at 06:26 PM
JR Magat
Offline
• • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.1 #6 · Battle of 85mm 1.4: Nikon AF-D vs Sigma


overall, i see the Sigma has a much "warmer" tone. The AF is as expected, silent. I have not evaluated AF speed/tracking yet. Bokeh/rendering is pretty similar to me


Nov 02, 2010 at 06:28 PM
JR Magat
Offline
• • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.1 #7 · Battle of 85mm 1.4: Nikon AF-D vs Sigma


i'll try to take better people samples with both lenses later... but it's surprising how the lenses were on a tripod with the sample focal point... and the Nikon shots seem more front focused... Will definitely take more pictures to make sure both are accurate with focus!


Nov 02, 2010 at 06:30 PM
Jammy Straub
Offline
• • • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.1 #8 · Battle of 85mm 1.4: Nikon AF-D vs Sigma


IMHO, one of the best free focus tests is here:

http://focustestchart.com/



Nov 02, 2010 at 06:36 PM
Gregory.Rotter
Offline
• • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.1 #9 · Battle of 85mm 1.4: Nikon AF-D vs Sigma


is it just me, or does it look like the nikon is front focusing


Nov 02, 2010 at 06:40 PM
JR Magat
Offline
• • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.1 #10 · Battle of 85mm 1.4: Nikon AF-D vs Sigma


Gregory.Rotter wrote:
is it just me, or does it look like the nikon is front focusing


that's what i see too. I will do more side by side comparisons to see if it's consistent. In the meantime, the Sigma looks pretty good!



Nov 02, 2010 at 06:50 PM
mendofr
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.1 #11 · Battle of 85mm 1.4: Nikon AF-D vs Sigma


Sigma looks sharper.


Nov 02, 2010 at 07:28 PM
Steezus
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.1 #12 · Battle of 85mm 1.4: Nikon AF-D vs Sigma


I like the punchy contrast of the Sigma. It is also looking slightly smoother in the OoF areas to me as well. Who knows about sharpness if you are having front focus issues, but on the last shot of the leaves you can see that not even the leaves slightly in the front are not more in focus than the main subject; doesn't rule out back focus, but I think the Sigma is just a tad sharper. I still wouldn't kick the Nikon out of bed. I also like the D look to the bokeh compared to the G, so I am happy to see the Sigma has that D silk as well.


Nov 02, 2010 at 07:48 PM
bakka303
Offline
• •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.1 #13 · Battle of 85mm 1.4: Nikon AF-D vs Sigma


Thanks for posting these, would love to see some bokeh comparisons with the D+Sigma at 2.8/4/5.6 if possible.
The Sigma certainly looks promising-I've now got to decide between this and the D as they're evenly priced. How's the manual focus override?



Nov 02, 2010 at 07:57 PM
screwdriver
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.1 #14 · Battle of 85mm 1.4: Nikon AF-D vs Sigma


JR Magat wrote:
i'll try to take better people samples with both lenses later... but it's surprising how the lenses were on a tripod with the sample focal point... and the Nikon shots seem more front focused... Will definitely take more pictures to make sure both are accurate with focus!


this is what i noticed too , im not sure if this is why i see the sigma sharper. ill wait for other images you will post later on .
tnx for doing this JR.



Nov 02, 2010 at 08:05 PM
JR Magat
Offline
• • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.1 #15 · Battle of 85mm 1.4: Nikon AF-D vs Sigma


thanks everyone! i would not draw any sharpness conclusions from these, but you can see how the Sigma compares in OoF rendering and color/contrast.

I will bring both lenses with me to work and i'll try to get more samples during my lunch break!



Nov 02, 2010 at 08:53 PM
dj dunzie
Offline
• • • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.1 #16 · Battle of 85mm 1.4: Nikon AF-D vs Sigma


APPEARS to me that the Siggy has better sharpness at least WO, and a bit more contrast punch as well, where the Nikkor seems to knock down the BG's a little more based purely on these test shots. The Nikkor isn't going to win MTF battles with other newer competitors and was never known to be critically razor sharp, but what it always had was that ability to render portraits smoothly and with real character. Will be interesting to see if it's a split decision once more tests and images are in.


Nov 02, 2010 at 09:03 PM
JR Magat
Offline
• • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.1 #17 · Battle of 85mm 1.4: Nikon AF-D vs Sigma


dj dunzie wrote:
APPEARS to me that the Siggy has better sharpness at least WO, and a bit more contrast punch as well, where the Nikkor seems to knock down the BG's a little more based purely on these test shots. The Nikkor isn't going to win MTF battles with other newer competitors and was never known to be critically razor sharp, but what it always had was that ability to render portraits smoothly and with real character. Will be interesting to see if it's a split decision once more tests and images are in.


I think you are correct on all counts. The Nikon D was never known for it's sharpness wide open anyways, so it shouldn't be a surprise if the Sigma wins that one. I will try to get more samples today and will have to check both of these lenses to see which one's focus is off... it'd be interesting and ironic if the one that needs the fine tune adjustment was the Nikon and not the Sigma!



Nov 03, 2010 at 07:50 AM
jasoncallen
Offline
• • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.1 #18 · Battle of 85mm 1.4: Nikon AF-D vs Sigma


Cool stuff, JR! Congrats on the new lens. I'm looking forward to seeing some more examples of what the Sigma can do in high contrast situations (where I know that the 85/1.4 AFD would have extreme color fringing), as I'm considering picking one up in the distant future.


Nov 03, 2010 at 10:51 AM
JR Magat
Offline
• • • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.1 #19 · Battle of 85mm 1.4: Nikon AF-D vs Sigma


Thanks Jason!

Just snapped some pictures outside an abandoned building near my work with both lenses. I'll try to get more/better people samples today after work!

I'll post them later on tonight




Nov 03, 2010 at 11:31 AM
jtra
Offline
• • •
Upload & Sell: Off
p.1 #20 · Battle of 85mm 1.4: Nikon AF-D vs Sigma


Thanks for useful comparison. Can you compare flare as well?


Nov 03, 2010 at 12:30 PM
       2       3       4       end




FM Forums | Nikon Forum | Join Upload & Sell

       2       3       4       end
    
 

Welcome back
Log in to your account