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p.3 #1 · Battle of 85mm 1.4: Nikon AF-D vs Sigma


f/1.4

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http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1361/5146832679_271efd556c_b.jpg
Sigma
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1263/5147433422_a54b4d420c_b.jpg



Nov 04, 2010 at 07:47 PM
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p.3 #2 · Battle of 85mm 1.4: Nikon AF-D vs Sigma


f/2.8

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http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4089/5146833191_f0eaa5aa32_b.jpg
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http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4128/5147433784_d07cb71b1a_b.jpg



Nov 04, 2010 at 07:49 PM
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p.3 #3 · Battle of 85mm 1.4: Nikon AF-D vs Sigma


f/4

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http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1431/5146834137_b82a50e5ed_b.jpg
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http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4083/5146831841_cdc59fc2bc_b.jpg



Nov 04, 2010 at 07:50 PM
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p.3 #4 · Battle of 85mm 1.4: Nikon AF-D vs Sigma


f/8

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http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4103/5147436108_cc7b222c4e_b.jpg
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http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4039/5146853305_bff4efcc65_b.jpg



Nov 04, 2010 at 07:52 PM
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p.3 #5 · Battle of 85mm 1.4: Nikon AF-D vs Sigma


Wow, now that is interesting. F/1.4 shows the nikon sharper out to the edges. Look at the magazines on the left. Sigma has more contrast. The sigma is WEAK at 2.8 and doesn't catch up until f/8. Interesting....I wonder if there is focus shift to account for in that Sigma?


Nov 04, 2010 at 08:05 PM
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p.3 #6 · Battle of 85mm 1.4: Nikon AF-D vs Sigma


Yeah, i don't know what happened with the Sigma at f/2.8.... I re-took it thinking it was a fluke and it ended up with the same result so i just posted it

i will do more shooting with the Sigma at f/2.8 to see if that's the case

Regardless... i'm pretty confident this proves the Nikon being sharper



Nov 04, 2010 at 08:08 PM
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p.3 #7 · Battle of 85mm 1.4: Nikon AF-D vs Sigma


Wow, that Sigma really fell apart at 2.8.. what the hell?


Nov 04, 2010 at 08:21 PM
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p.3 #8 · Battle of 85mm 1.4: Nikon AF-D vs Sigma


wow!
cant believe what happened to the sigma at 2.8 and 4



Nov 04, 2010 at 08:21 PM
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p.3 #9 · Battle of 85mm 1.4: Nikon AF-D vs Sigma


I'm going to take this test with a grain of salt. There have been much better examples of the sigma from both camps then these. Shoot for a couple weeks what you normally would shoot and evaluate the outcome based on those results.


Nov 04, 2010 at 09:11 PM
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p.3 #10 · Battle of 85mm 1.4: Nikon AF-D vs Sigma


Bruce Sawle wrote:
I'm going to take this test with a grain of salt. There have been much better examples of the sigma from both camps then these. Shoot for a couple weeks what you normally would shoot and evaluate the outcome based on those results.


+1
I already sold the 85D and will hand it off on Saturday. I will keep the Sigma and will shot as normal and then evaluate. Did you get your copy yet?



Nov 04, 2010 at 09:15 PM
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p.3 #11 · Battle of 85mm 1.4: Nikon AF-D vs Sigma


It's at UPS I will pick it up tomorrow. For whatever reason 47 street photo would not deliver to my door. I will chime in tomorrow afternoon on my initial thoughts.


Nov 04, 2010 at 09:38 PM
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p.3 #12 · Battle of 85mm 1.4: Nikon AF-D vs Sigma


@ JR Magat

Did you ever shoot a focus test chart with the Sigma? That sort of behavior in the sharpness test could be a result of a small degree of misfocus. www.focustestchart.com

It could also be focus shift upon stopping down, much like the Canon 50mm f/1.2L suffers from.


I find it very odd that the lower left corner of the crop at f/1.4 from the Sigma is so blurry on a mostly planar test, that tells me something is amiss. Have you ran a test to make sure you don't have a decentered element and your sample is equally sharp across the frame? (think brick wall or garage door photo)?

Thank you for the samples!



Nov 05, 2010 at 05:38 AM
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p.3 #13 · Battle of 85mm 1.4: Nikon AF-D vs Sigma


Jammy, I did the focus test on both lenses and the Sigma looked fine from the tests. The Nikon looked off, but I manually focused and got the sweet spot for the tests and then just adjusted aperture from there.

Since I will be keeping the Sigma, I will have to evalulate it much more. Good point, and i'll have to run some tests (brick wall). I hope my copy doesn't suffer from focus shift, and if that's the case, then i'll probably send it in for an exchange and hope i get a better copy



Nov 05, 2010 at 06:40 AM
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p.3 #14 · Battle of 85mm 1.4: Nikon AF-D vs Sigma


JR Magat wrote:
Jammy, I did the focus test on both lenses and the Sigma looked fine from the tests. The Nikon looked off, but I manually focused and got the sweet spot for the tests and then just adjusted aperture from there.

Since I will be keeping the Sigma, I will have to evalulate it much more. Good point, and i'll have to run some tests (brick wall). I hope my copy doesn't suffer from focus shift, and if that's the case, then i'll probably send it in for an exchange and hope i get a better copy


This may be the issue I remember reading somewhere that you need to refocus once you change the aperature on some lenses.



Nov 05, 2010 at 09:16 AM
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p.3 #15 · Battle of 85mm 1.4: Nikon AF-D vs Sigma


Bruce Sawle wrote:
This may be the issue I remember reading somewhere that you need to refocus once you change the aperature on some lenses.


That would be a huge strike against the Sigma if there is focus shift issues with the lens....especially if you are purchasing this lens for faster focus than the Nikon D version. Focus shift will be in the design...not in some lenses and not in others. I don't think I have heard of any other Sigma lenses with focus shift issues.



Nov 05, 2010 at 09:23 AM
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p.3 #16 · Battle of 85mm 1.4: Nikon AF-D vs Sigma


I noticed the same thing as Jammy. Focus is more blurred in the corner at 2.8 than 1.4. That doesn't make any sense whatsoever. I think a more defined test in focus is in order. Manually focusing with liveview in between each aperture change will confirm focus shift.


Nov 05, 2010 at 09:32 AM
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p.3 #17 · Battle of 85mm 1.4: Nikon AF-D vs Sigma


Bruce Sawle wrote:
This may be the issue I remember reading somewhere that you need to refocus once you change the aperature on some lenses.


Well, i only did this with the Nikon. With the Sigma, I had it set to auto-focus and refocused for each shot. I'll try to get more shots with the Sigma to see if this test was a fluke; which I hope it was!



Nov 05, 2010 at 10:07 AM
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p.3 #18 · Battle of 85mm 1.4: Nikon AF-D vs Sigma


James, is that a 100% crop? how does it compare to 1.4 and f/8?


Nov 05, 2010 at 10:24 AM
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p.3 #19 · Battle of 85mm 1.4: Nikon AF-D vs Sigma


oh I haven't done any tests with a tripod through an aperture range yet....I'm not seeing any focus issues though...I'll put it through some paces this weekend. (It's a full resize to 1000 wide@72, not a crop)


Nov 05, 2010 at 10:26 AM
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p.3 #20 · Battle of 85mm 1.4: Nikon AF-D vs Sigma


James Burden wrote:
oh I haven't done any tests with a tripod through an aperture range yet....I'm not seeing any focus issues though...I'll put it through some paces this weekend. (It's a full resize to 1000 wide@72, not a crop)


i'll have to put my copy through the paces as well to get a better feel for it. i'll be interested to see how yours and Bruce's copies turn out!



Nov 05, 2010 at 10:41 AM
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